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Thanks for the video Dirty_Pierre! It helped to solidify beam0 posts above about the UI! Much better than the light I have, that has the “old” UI!

The ramping seems “Crescendo”, as it doesn’t stop on bottom or top and it is not controlable by the user, although Crescendo has “blinks” to let one know it has reached the top or bottom!

I wish I was able to mod this light’s driver, it is pretty nice…

Thanks for the demonstration!

Your welcome, glad the video helps clarify the UI a little.
Yes, it is like crescendo, but a blink would be nice. The only control over the ramping is a single click to stop it, and it is a little hard to stop it exactly where you want it. A lower level low would be great too and shortcuts like olight, but for the $$ I’m not complaining.

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MascaratumB wrote:
Thanks for the video Dirty_Pierre! It helped to solidify beam0 posts above about the UI! Much better than the light I have, that has the “old” UI!

The ramping seems “Crescendo”, as it doesn’t stop on bottom or top and it is not controlable by the user, although Crescendo has “blinks” to let one know it has reached the top or bottom!

I wish I was able to mod this light’s driver, it is pretty nice…

Thanks for the demonstration!

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Nice video. I think this new UI is a big improvement over the first one. I often have trouble remembering on is a fast click and off is a long click. I get it mixed up sometimes. Lol.
I totally agree, I hate when they do that, (are you listening Olight?) it’s so confusing, especially when you have a bunch of different lights. Make it the same for on and off !

Although I prefer the other way around: Single click for on and off, long press to scroll the levels. I love it when you can just click the damn thing on and off, so simple, it just feels right, like an old maglite. I think that’s my favorite UI, it’s what the Thrunite TC20 has.

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Note: Not sure if Olight has changed that, my S15 / S20 / S30 are pretty old, but they all have that crappy UI.

Hum, I have the S1R Baton (16340), and I like 2 things on its UI: you can jump to the Turbo 1 (600lm) with double click from OFF, and can enter Moonlight with press and hold. That way, despite you may have forgotten the last used mode, you can always start on the lowest mode Wink

Actually, I wish other lights had the same UI! (direct access to ML and Turbo are a very big plus for me)


But does the S1R Baton still has long press ON, single click OFF like the other Olights I mentioned? Angry

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I like 2 things on its UI: you can jump to the Turbo 1 (600lm) with double click from OFF, and can enter Moonlight with press and hold. That way, despite you may have forgotten the last used mode, you can always start on the lowest mode Wink

That’s EXACTLY how the Thrunite TC20 works…

But it’s also single click ON and single click OFF! Thumbs Up It’s perfect! Luv it!!

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But does the S1R Baton still has long press ON, single click OFF like the other Olights I mentioned? Angry

The S1R has single click for ON and it will get ON on the last used mode.
When ON press and hold to cycle throught L>M>H.
To access ML its press and hold from OFF.
To access Turbo 1 (600lm) it’s a double click from ON or OFF and to access Turbo 2 (900lm) it is another double click when already on Turbo 1.
To get back from T2 to T1 its a double click.
To get to the regular modes, from T1 or T2, it’s just a press and hold, and it will cycle again through L>M>H Wink
To lock the light, it’s a long press and hold (the light will turn ON in ML, and then shuts OFF. The switch will become red everytime it is pressed while locked!)

Despite I preferred to always start on Low, the possibility to start on ML is a very big plus. Smile

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But does the S1R Baton still has long press ON, single click OFF like the other Olights I mentioned? Angry

The S1R has single click for ON …………………………….


So is OFF also a single click?

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It is, yes, beam0 Wink Forgot to mention that Facepalm

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I thought this flashlight was €8.21318 (ie 8 euro 21 cent, I thought all decimal point was just conversion)
I tried to order but I think the payment failed.

Now I look at the dollar price and it says $9,999 (ie 10 thousand dollars !)

What the hell! Is this some kinda scam ?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mini-flashlight-USB-charging-EDC-ultra-s...

I seriously hope they did not try to charge me $10k for a flashlight.

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Since China is celebrating New Year, everything is shut down until the end of the February. Aliexpress sellers are not working, too. In order to stop people from making orders that won’t be fulfilled in at least 10-15 days, some sellers change all prices to some insane amounts or set all items to out of stock.

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Since China is celebrating New Year, everything is shut down until the end of the February. Aliexpress sellers are not working, too. In order to stop people from making orders that won’t be fulfilled in at least 10-15 days, some sellers change all prices to some insane amounts or set all items to out of stock.

The misunderstanding is that where I come from, the decimal point is used to denote cent.

So €8.21 = 8 euro 21 cent
€8,213.00 = 8 thousand two hundred and thirteen euro, zero cent

But apparently they use different separators in different countries…which seems dumb/confusing.
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19455-01/806-0169/overview-9/index.html

So I thought this $10k flashlight was €8.21 and tried to order Facepalm
All the comments were saying it was about $10 so it seemed right Facepalm

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I didn’t actualy look at decimal separator knowing why the price was like that. And yes, it’s a locale thing. In my country we use decimal comma, and it appears that most of the (civilised) world uses decimal point. Since I’m into programming, I have my brain wired to use decimal point. As a result, I have a really hard time reading numbers in some local arbitrary format, so I understand you completely.

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I didn’t actualy look at decimal separator knowing why the price was like that. And yes, it’s a locale thing. In my country we use decimal comma, and it appears that most of the (civilised) world uses decimal point. Since I’m into programming, I have my brain wired to use decimal point. As a result, I have a really hard time reading numbers in some local arbitrary format, so I understand you completely.

It was a dumb mistake on my part … I was just ordering quickly and my brain saw €8 + change.
Gearbest, Banggood etc use the separators I am familiar with so it didn’t even cross my mind to check this.

I guess they change to $9,999 instead of ‘out of stock’ because they figure nobody would be dumb enough to order at that price …. but I proved them wrong Facepalm

Oh well

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I guess they change to $9,999 instead of ‘out of stock’ because they figure nobody would be dumb enough to order at that price ….

But maybe they’re hoping someone does, and sends payment Cash

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But does the S1R Baton still has long press ON, single click OFF like the other Olights I mentioned? Angry

The S1R has single click for ON and it will get ON on the last used mode.
When ON press and hold to cycle throught L>M>H.
To access ML its press and hold from OFF.
To access Turbo 1 (600lm) it’s a double click from ON or OFF and to access Turbo 2 (900lm) it is another double click when already on Turbo 1.
To get back from T2 to T1 its a double click.
To get to the regular modes, from T1 or T2, it’s just a press and hold, and it will cycle again through L>M>H Wink
To lock the light, it’s a long press and hold (the light will turn ON in ML, and then shuts OFF. The switch will become red everytime it is pressed while locked!)

Despite I preferred to always start on Low, the possibility to start on ML is a very big plus. Smile


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beam0 wrote:
But does the S1R Baton still has long press ON, single click OFF like the other Olights I mentioned? Angry

The S1R has single click for ON …………………………….


So is OFF also a single click?

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It is, yes, beam0 Wink Forgot to mention that Facepalm

OK so Olight made their UI perfect.

That’s EXACTLY the same as the UI of Thrunite TC20, (except the Thrunite only has 1 turbo)
Best UI there is. I wish all my lights had this.

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I got my v2 of the Jaxmnve M3 in today. On one hand and I’m glad the strobe is no longer part main cycle. On the other hand this new third level they added was in between the existing middle and high levels. Facepalm

They came so close to getting the UI right, but just missed it.

The v1 has 0.39A and 1.33A.
The v2 has 0.39A, 0.65A and 1.33A.

It’s kind of a waste of a level. It needs a 0.04A, 0.39A and 1.33A to have 3 well spaced levels. (0.04A is what I measured on the lowest part of the ramping)

I’m disappointed, but at least it’s a little better than the older version.

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I got my v2 of the Jaxmnve M3 in today. On one hand and I’m glad the strobe is no longer part main cycle. On the other hand this new third level they added was in between the existing middle and high levels. Facepalm

They came so close to getting the UI right, but just missed it.

The v1 has 0.39A and 1.33A.
The v2 has 0.39A, 0.65A and 1.33A.

It’s kind of a waste of a level. It needs a 0.04A, 0.39A and 1.33A to have 3 well spaced levels. (0.04A is what I measured on the lowest part of the ramping)

I’m disappointed, but at least it’s a little better than the older version.

I agree, the spacing is bad (too close together) and not a low enough low.

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OK guys. Sad news. Seems like the seller doubled the price of the Jaxmnve M3.
Can anyone recommend other similar light with similar parameters (size, USB charging, batt included) under USD 15?

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OK guys. Sad news. Seems like the seller doubled the price of the Jaxmnve M3.
Can anyone recommend other similar light with similar parameters (size, USB charging, batt included) under USD 15?

They didn’t double the price. $25.70 is the normal price. You just have to wait for it to go on sale again. $13 was the sale price.

There is no other lights similar for such a low price.

The OTR U16 is a little bigger and can sometimes be bought for $20 on sale which is not often.

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Thanks for making it clear, Jason. Thumbs Up
Just checked it out again and voila, they lowered the price down to the USD 13,60. Big Smile

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Hi all, does it have AR coated glass lens?. Anyone measured the lens diameter and thikness?

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Hi all, does it have AR coated glass lens?. Anyone measured the lens diameter and thikness?

No AR coating.

The lens diameter is a little bit smaller than the standard 21mm lens size for a typical 18650 cigar sized light like a Convoy S2+.

So if you wanted to add an AR lens you need to find one that was no bigger than 20mm.

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There is 20mm AR coated glas but what thikness?

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There is 20mm AR coated glas but what thikness?

1mm.

Why does it matter? Do you want to make it a bit less CW and more NW? Are you trying to get a few more % output?

I don’t understand.

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For those wanting to do an emitter swap the mcpcb has a soft adhesive under it. Maybe it can be twisted slightly to break it loose.


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Yes both, bit more lumens and bit less cool tint

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Anyone else have the rubber USB cover come completely out? Can’t seem to get it back in either, tried with a flat tip dental tool but no luck, poked about 8 holes through the end of the rubber post trying. The cover kept pulling open when I’d draw the light from clipped to the inside of my pocket. I don’t like the USB cover on this.

Also my light cuts out if you smack the tail, found this out using the magnetic tail, when I stick it to a metal surface it cuts out a for split second. I tried stretching the spring but no luck, I think it’s just the length and weakness of the spring. It’s not a big deal doesn’t really bother me, just wondered if anyone else noticed this.

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The usb cover is pretty flimsy, but it doesn’t usually come open on its own. Have you tried indexing it so it doesn’t catch on anything?

Mine will turn off as well when attached to metal quickly. I try to ease it into place.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

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The usb cover is pretty flimsy, but it doesn’t usually come open on its own. Have you tried indexing it so it doesn’t catch on anything?

Mine will turn off as well when attached to metal quickly. I try to ease it into place.

I clip inside the pant pocket, so when I grasp the light by the head to draw it out I’m grasping it over the rubber. I always index my pocket clips on side switch lights to the natural gap between my thumb and forefinger when my thumb is resting on the switch, (since I’m right handed this puts the clip just to the left of the switch) I do this in order to quickly locate the switches and for comfort when holding.

One thing I could do on this light is place the clip directly opposite the switch, over the USB cover, then it would act as a protector for the cover. But on this light the clip rotates too easy, it doesn’t stay put, so it doesn’t always remain where I place it. Not sure how I’m going to get the cover back in anyhow.

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Does the cover have some kind of ball shape on the end to keep it from being pulled out completely? Have you tried a tiny bit of grease to try and push it back in?

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Does the cover have some kind of ball shape on the end to keep it from being pulled out completely? Have you tried a tiny bit of grease to try and push it back in?

Yes it has the ball on the end, no I haven’t tried grease, good call, thanks. I’ve got to get the right tool that wont keep poking through the rubber like the dental pick I’m using, I’ll try a cut off round toothpick with some super lube next. But the cover on this doesn’t fit as flush and tight as others do.

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My cover came off too but I was able to push it back in the first time using a round end dental tool. I think it may help if the tool is close to the same diameter as the hole. I don’t like this cover much either but whadda ya want for this price.

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My cover came off too but I was able to push it back in the first time using a round end dental tool. I think it may help if the tool is close to the same diameter as the hole. I don’t like this cover much either but whadda ya want for this price.
I want a better fitting cover Silly

But really I’m not stressin’ over it either because the price but just sayin’

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