Walkie Talkie for children?

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CrashOne wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the cable needed for programming. Will program it to the 16 PMR channels.

That’s the spirit, if you are going to do this, at least thank you for sticking to legit. frequencies.

If you want to know channel mapping to consumer PMR and CTSS codes for interoperability, send PM. I’d rather you did this correctly.

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CrashOne wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the cable needed for programming. Will program it to the 16 PMR channels.

You will break the law by using it in your country the way you do and you disturb PMR channels for legit users.
Fi!
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sp5it wrote:
CrashOne wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the cable needed for programming. Will program it to the 16 PMR channels.
You will break the law by using it in your country the way you do and you disturb PMR channels for legit users. Fi! Mike

Nope. As already discussed, the 446 Mhz frequency is licence-free all over the EU.

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CrashOne wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the cable needed for programming. Will program it to the 16 PMR channels.
You will break the law by using it in your country the way you do and you disturb PMR channels for legit users. Fi! Mike

They will do it anyway (until they get bored). Better they do it precisely. The genie is out of the bottle, and I doubt a few with a trivial amount more power will make any difference. As long as they stay clear of “other” bands Wink

And maybe a tiny few might spark an interest in the real subject.

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Flying Luminosity wrote:
Nope. As already discussed, the 446 Mhz frequency is licence-free all over the EU.

You are wrong. Read PMR446 usage conditions.
Non removable antennas and 500mW output power.
Otherwise it is radio piracy.
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sp5it wrote:
CrashOne wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the cable needed for programming. Will program it to the 16 PMR channels.
You will break the law by using it in your country the way you do and you disturb PMR channels for legit users. Fi! Mike

Nope. As already discussed, the 446 Mhz frequency is licence-free all over the EU.

Only when used with approved handsets. Actually it is extremely tightly controlled and licensed, just you don’t have to worry about any of that if you just buy a proper one. Buy e.g a Baofeng and hopefully code it up near-enough and it will work, but never be legal.

Just as a divvy could code one up onto US FRS or GMRS frequencies, I suspect they would be dealt with quite harshly over there, if found out.

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Nope. As already discussed, the 446 Mhz frequency is licence-free all over the EU.
You are wrong. Read PMR446 usage conditions. Non removable antennas and 500mW output power. Otherwise it is radio piracy. Mike

Thanks, I didn’t realise that. I’ve seen quite a few on ebay that were being sold as having several Watts, but I thought there must be an easy way to reduce the output power. Guess it would need a resistor mod though, and probably not much that can be done about the antenna.

I wasn’t aware how much there is to look out for, so I’m glad I started this thread … probably saved me from a few unpleasant surprises!

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Flying Luminosity wrote:
sp5it wrote:
CrashOne wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the cable needed for programming. Will program it to the 16 PMR channels.
You will break the law by using it in your country the way you do and you disturb PMR channels for legit users. Fi! Mike

Nope. As already discussed, the 446 Mhz frequency is licence-free all over the EU.

Tom Tom wrote:
sp5it wrote:
CrashOne wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the cable needed for programming. Will program it to the 16 PMR channels.
You will break the law by using it in your country the way you do and you disturb PMR channels for legit users. Fi! Mike

They will do it anyway (until they get bored). Better they do it precisely. The genie is out of the bottle, and I doubt a few with a trivial amount more power will make any difference. As long as they stay clear of “other” bands Wink

And maybe a tiny few might spark an interest in the real subject.

sp5it wrote:
CrashOne wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, just ordered the cable needed for programming. Will program it to the 16 PMR channels.
You will break the law by using it in your country the way you do and you disturb PMR channels for legit users. Fi! Mike

I reprogrammed my set to use:

446.00625 MHz
446.03125 MHz
446.05625 MHz
446.08125 MHz
446.01875 MHz
446.04375 MHz
446.06875 MHz
446.09375 MHz

There was a low power option, which I selected for al channels. I don’t intend to use the walkie talkies on channels that aren’t allowed.

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You’re still effectively breaking the rules as they limit EIRP by saying 500mw and a tiny antenna but you wont get caught out.
I have some programmed with a few extra channels so that I can use those and know that no one else will be on them.

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I can highly recommend these: Midland GXT1000VP

They are kid proof and have a good range. I wouldn’t count on them in an emergency, but they work well for kids.

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chrisc wrote:
You’re still effectively breaking the rules as they limit EIRP by saying 500mw and a tiny antenna but you wont get caught out. I have some programmed with a few extra channels so that I can use those and know that no one else will be on them.

Was hoping the low power config was helping.. But at least I don’t disturb other frequencies.

Next time I buy a “childrens” toy, I’ll take a better look into the specs.

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I’m also prefer second choice. Maybe i will get cheapest walkie-talkie, but i’m not sure. On http://google.com/ i found list of 2018 models, and can’t say that walkie-talkie is cheap way of communication

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Motorola makes lots of good ones.

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