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I put a 20mm “convoy” tir lens in my 2019 rrt-01. Very easy drop-in only a fat oring is needed under the bezel ring to compensate a smal height difference.

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Did you use the glass lens or no?

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contactcr wrote:
Did you use the glass lens or no?

Yes, with glass lens.

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Geuzzz wrote:

lovely Wink

those pebble tir make for nice evenly lit photos

on left is a pebble tir in a Tool (thanks to contactcr), middle is Tool w stock reflector, right is a pebble tir from clemence

you can see in the middle photo, that a hotspot creates a poor image due to some parts being brighter than others, and this alters the colors

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Original RRT-01 driver, reflector, and pocket clip supplies available.

I learned thanks to moderator007 that the driver in the 2019 RRT-01 also fits the Original RRT-01, and the TCR-1. He also found 2 reflectors that are drop in replacements for the Original RRT-01 and NiteEye10, to improve the beam.

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1. Eye10 driver has strobe
2. The 2019 RRT-01 uses the Eye10 driver.
3. Eye10 driver can be purchased individually from info (at) jetbeamlight.com
4. Eye10 driver fits in the TCR-1 and Original RRT-01
5. Upgraded eflectors to fit Original RRT-01, and the Eye10 and TCR-1, are available from Kaidomain, more info here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1510982#comment-1510982
6. Short pocket clips are available from jetbeam also, thanks to toddcshoe for the info. The short clips fit both the Original and 2019 RRT-01, as well as the TCR-1 and NiteEye Eye10.

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Comparing reflector options for an Original RRT-01 w sw45 led mod.
Thanks to moderator007 for discovering the kaidomain reflectors:

kaidomain 23424:
best pick imo, the hotspot is nice and even, and no dark ring in the spill

kaidomain 21514:
very tight beam, slight shadow ring in the spill, the center has a small extra hot area that I dislike (it looks like a hole in the middle of the hotspot):

stock Original RRT-01 reflector:
not recommended, has a dark ring in the spill, plus other rings around the corona, and at close range there is a dark cross in the middle of the hotspot

The kaidomain reflectors are taller than the stock one. The kaidomain reflectors have a flange to prevent the reflector from pressing on the mcpcb, and prevent the use of a centering ring:

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jon_slider wrote:

The kaidomain reflectors are taller than the stock one. The kaidomain reflectors have a flange to prevent the reflector from pressing on the mcpcb, and prevent the use of a centering ring:


All of mine are using a thinner mcpcb than factory with a plastic centering ring and tighten down on the centering ring mcpcb fine and have no fitment problem at all.
Maybe the thinner mcpcb is the key to these working correctly.
I preferred the KD 23424 also, they look identical but the beam seems better with the 23424. Good to hear they look good with a sw45k.
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both KD reflectors produce better beams than the setup w the stock reflector
but the KD reflectors dont let the bezel close down as far, the O ring is exposed, without using any centering ring:

if I add a thin round centering ring then the gap at the O ring gets bigger

when my RRT-01 was modded to sw45, I dont know what mcpcb thickness was used
The beam has at least 3 obvious rings in the spill. Maybe because the LED sits lower than stock.

I much prefer the beam from the KD reflectors,
thanks for doing all the legwork to find them, and then sharing the info..

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Many thanks to jon and modderator for all the info you put here. Much apreciated!
I have ordered bunch of reflectors and due to work i was not home for last few months but your info will help me solve the mess i have created at my tiny “shop”.
EDIT: i still need to post my homemade triple conversion… hopefully in August when i reach my doorstep

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isn’t clemence at Virence making these ?.
wouldn’t mind a custom built one HCRI Optisolis

London !

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optosolis wrote:
isn’t clemence at Virence making these ?.
wouldn’t mind a custom built one HCRI Optisolis

Spoke to clemence and shared some thoughts about it. He is trying to finish some protos of his MCPCB for RRT. But he’s busy as hell so it will take some time plus suplier messed up delivery of some boards if i understood him correctly…
But lack of time is the main reason

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jon_slider wrote:
both KD reflectors produce better beams than the setup w the stock reflector
but the KD reflectors dont let the bezel close down as far, the O ring is exposed, without using any centering ring:

if I add a thin round centering ring then the gap at the O ring gets bigger
when my RRT-01 was modded to sw45, I dont know what mcpcb thickness was used
The beam has at least 3 obvious rings in the spill. Maybe because the LED sits lower than stock.
I much prefer the beam from the KD reflectors, thanks for doing all the legwork to find them, and then sharing the info..
Is there any feasible way to trim down the Kai Domain reflector just enough so that it fits properly in an original RRT-01?
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I think grinding/sanding the trim on top of the reflector could allow reflector to drop a bit onto the MCPCB

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xevious wrote:
Is there any feasible way to trim down the Kai Domain reflector just enough so that it fits properly in an original RRT-01?

fwiw, my single sw45 Original RRT-01 is using a NOTstock board plus liquid tape.

I actually have not tried the KD reflectors in an UNmodified stock RRT-01.

It is also possible that the exposed Oring in my modded RRT-01 is caused by the height of the mcpcb, instead of being caused, as I suggested, by the lip around the KD reflector.

someone else needs to provide a photo of their reflector mod, and whether their O ring is exposed.

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meanwhile, here is a red GID mod to a triple sw35 modded Jetbeam Eye10 from pinkpanda:

GID inserts are available from CRX:

CRX wrote:

imo the red is a waste of time, it is super dim, and only lasts a few seconds after being charged by light.

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moderator007 wrote:
I’d thought about a adapter that would thread to the head and to the tube, like sunwayman did with the V11R and V10R.

does an AA adapter from sunwayman fit the Original RRT-01?:-)

also just to consolidate
18650 tube options for the Original RRT-01:

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1511588#comment-1511588

Archibald Tuttle wrote:
For anyone who wants to run an 18650 with your original RRT-01: a Crelant 7G3CS battery tube fits nicely onto the original RRT-01’s head. Gives the RRT-01 more runtime with a lockout clicky.

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1511644#comment-1511644

Firelight2 wrote:
Incidentally, the threads in the old RRT-01 are compatible with the threads in the Manker E14 / Astrolux S41.
…If you want it to be watertight and cover the o-ring on the body tube you may need to shorten the threads slightly by sawing or filing off the top of the battery tube.


ToyKeeper wrote:
The old RRT01 also legos with a Convoy S2 tube, IIRC. But it requires sanding down the tube threads to make it short enough for a good fit. Or dealing with exposed threads and no waterproofing.
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This pic just never seemed right to me some how.

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So I looked at mine with the KD reflector and shaved LH351D installed.
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Mine covers the o-ring completely and the space that’s left is visible and that’s were you have your o-ring installed.
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This is with the bezel unscrewed to show where the o-ring goes.
I think you got your o-ring installed in the wrong place jon_slider. Might explain why your having problems with the KD reflector swap and exposed o-ring.

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Completely factory RRT-01 in the front, KD swap reflector in the back.

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Mine covers the o-ring completely and the space that’s left is visible and that’s were you have your o-ring installed.

thank you Sir!
I agree, that is not where the O ring belongs

I need a tighter O ring, that is not being pushed by the bottom of the bezel
when that light gets back from passaround

on left is a stock Eye10 mcpcb and LED w a kaidomain reflector swap, on right I confirm an RRT-01 with Oring under the bezel

and the height difference of the kaidomain reflector

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That .5mm saved by the smaller 1.5mm thick copper mcpcb would come in very handy in helping with that difference. Wink
I checked last night 5 different jetbeam original mcpcb’s, some copper, some aluminum. All of mine measured right at 2.04mm in thickness measured with accurate Mitutoyo calipers. The 12mm copper mcpcb’s I recommended measured 1.5mm in thickness.

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thanks for the refence shot w stock thickness mcpcb

and that makes sense,
the thinner mcpcb will narrow the gap

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http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1511644#comment-1511644

Firelight2 wrote:
Incidentally, the threads in the old RRT-01 are compatible with the threads in the Manker E14 / Astrolux S41.
…If you want it to be watertight and cover the o-ring on the body tube you may need to shorten the threads slightly by sawing or filing off the top of the battery tube.

Apparently there were some changes to the threads, I have an old RRT-01 and I have two Astrolux S41S and one S41 and none of the battery tubes fits the thread of the RRT-01, unfortunately Sad

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jon_slider wrote:
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does an AA adapter from sunwayman fit the Original RRT-01?:-)


I tried the V10R ti extender with no luck. I have the V11R aluminum extender but I just don’t know where it is at the moment. Facepalm
I think both extenders have the same threads though.
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jon_slider wrote:
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does an AA adapter from sunwayman fit the Original RRT-01?:-)


I tried the V10R ti extender with no luck. I have the V11R aluminum extender but I just don’t know where it is at the moment. Facepalm
I think both extenders have the same threads though.

If your talking about the AP-05 AA extender, I have checked and it does not fit

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moderator007 wrote:
[I tried the V10R ti extender with no luck.
shirnask wrote:
I have checked and it does not fit

thank you both Smile

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I disassembled my last factory older RRT-01 today. While I was there, I measured the bottom shelf where the mcpcb sits.
The shelf measured 15.10mm in diameter. A 16mm mcpcb can be used if filed down to 15mm. If doing the KD reflector swap a mcpcb of 1.5mm thickness would be better to allow the bezel to screw down to almost factory position. A 14mm mcpcb in 1.5mm thickness would work best if you can source one.
This info is for the older original RRT-01 not the new model. Wink
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You can find the 16mm x1.5mm mcpcb’s here.

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I was not expecting the old RRT-01 to have a smaller shelf than the TC-R1, but there you have it… Thanks for the information moderator007.

After I get the supplies from KD to mod the TC-R1 to Nichia 219b, I am going to look for a 2016 RRT-01…

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moderator007 wrote:
I disassembled my last factory older RRT-01 today. While I was there, I measured the bottom shelf where the mcpcb sits. The shelf measured 15.10mm in diameter. A 16mm mcpcb can be used if filed down to 15mm. If doing the KD reflector swap a mcpcb of 1.5mm thickness would be better to allow the bezel to screw down to almost factory position. A 14mm mcpcb in 1.5mm thickness would work best if you can source one. This info is for the older original RRT-01 not the new model. Wink . You can find the 16mm x1.5mm mcpcb’s here.

I didn’t bother to measure mine when I modded it last weekend, but 15mm was my “rough guess” for MCPCB size after I filed (and filed and filed) down my 16mm MCPCB. Thanks for taking the time to actually measure, and provide a reference here for others. 


I need to get around to ordering that new reflector, and I’ll probably also change the centering ring, but then I need to find a better way of making 4040 centering rings. The last one I reamed out from 3535 and my fingertips were upset with me for days!

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moderator007 wrote:
This pic just never seemed right to me some how.

You were Right, again!

That was too easy, I just moved the O ring up to where it belongs, and Viola!

All is well, no more exposed O ring.
fwiw, that light has a kaidomain reflector and a non stock mcpcb installation. I dont know how thick, the mod done by a friend.

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Installed, after sanding down, some glow gaskets from CRX

I hope night comes soon, so I can play in the dark

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Man thats Nice! Holly Molly!

I just changed the optic on my triple sw45 from pink panda. It now has the narrow clear and is making 410 lumens on a 16340.. it was 360 with the diffuse optic.

I really like the narrow clear.

I also added a touch of nyogel 767a to the control ring assembly, and then sealed it up with some blue locktite, after swapping the driver to one of the new 2019 RRT-01 drivers, that has strobe.

The ring feel is even nicer than before.. can be fine tuned with one finger, but has enough damping that it wont move unintentionally.

There is still the slightest grinding feel of the detente ball moving in the track but the rotation is nice and smooth. The off detente is snappy too. I can really feel it lock in, and it takes an intentional effort to turn the dial on. Then it rotates nice and easy, without being too loose nor too tight.

Im super happy to be learning how to lube the control ring for a good “feel”, to my taste.

Major respect to pinkpanda for this triple sw45 Original RRT-01.. what a beam!:-)

And thanks to CRX for the glow gaskets.. I like the AcquaMan!

What a beautiful Light! thanks to all my friends on BLF for helping me get here

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I was thinking about this, from another thread:

Geuzzz wrote:
You guys might get someone to do a run of triple spacers. After that the mod is doable with some basic mod skills.
Good idea!
fwiw, when pinkpanda built those triple RRT-01, he also modified the optics to fit the RRT-01 head opening, which is smaller than necessary to fit a stock optic.

Im not sure if pinkpanda also reduced the size of the triple mcpcb to fit.. seems likely.. he did a ton of work without mention of reward, out of kindness towards the BLF community

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I just stopped by mtn to see the size of the triple mcpcb, but I dont know yet what the size of the opening is in the head of the RRT-01

I note mtn also has spacers.. wouldnt it be cool if one of them fit the RRT-01?:-)

maybe someone (pinkpanda or moderator007) will chime in with some measurements on spacer size for RRT-01, compared to what mtn offers

I dont mind doing a bit of sanding.. lol

like I did to fit the glow gasket

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and for an encore, I would like to see trit slots through the fins of the Eye10 head. So that finned piece can be moved onto my PandaBuilt Triple sw45, Original RRT-01.
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Trits would be groovy.. Wink

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