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with non overlapping reflectors what are the advantages?
No strange petal shapes around the edge of the spill. You get a perfectly round spill edge.

Yes I understand. I thought the discussion was about a single piece 9 emitter design; what are the advantages compared to 9 discrete reflectors?


Less space between the inner diameter of the reflectors and more throw. Better usage of aviable space.
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with non overlapping reflectors what are the advantages?
No strange petal shapes around the edge of the spill. You get a perfectly round spill edge.

Yes I understand. I thought the discussion was about a single piece 9 emitter design; what are the advantages compared to 9 discrete reflectors?


Less space between the inner diameter of the reflectors and more throw. Better usage of aviable space.

Ah I think I get it. Even with discrete reflectors you should be able to further increase diameter looking at what it is now. But I can imagine if you want to squeeze out the last millimeter of space between two reflectors you need to switch to a single design.

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Can we get the driver specs to Lexel, TexasTA and whoever else can start designing a good driver for this? It can’t hurt Astrolux to share that info since there’s no way they’ll make a driver that will satisfy all of us, probably not even half of us. Play the game Ford does with the Mustang, and get the pertinent info out there so the aftermarket is ready with mods, which will help drive even more sales.

The Texas Avenger driver will not work in this light due to the dual switches and dual emitter sizes. Astrolux is probably combining 2 different drivers into a single pcb or else using 2 pcb stacked to drive it.

I believe Astroluxs driver design will be kept secret and not made available to anyone. Sorry.

On the other hand, if you want to forget about powering the xhp35 and just use the 70.2’s, then the current TA driver will work fine for that. It will only use one of the switches.

This is not true on this size of the driver it would be no problem using 2 MCUs to control each LED type seperately, with upcoming Boost driver on Schokis boost chip next month we can also deal with 12V XHP voltage from 2S battery pack

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hIKARInoob wrote:
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hIKARInoob wrote:
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hIKARInoob wrote:
with non overlapping reflectors what are the advantages?
No strange petal shapes around the edge of the spill. You get a perfectly round spill edge.

Yes I understand. I thought the discussion was about a single piece 9 emitter design; what are the advantages compared to 9 discrete reflectors?


Less space between the inner diameter of the reflectors and more throw. Better usage of aviable space.

Ah I think I get it. Even with discrete reflectors you should be able to further increase diameter looking at what it is now. But I can imagine if you want to squeeze out the last millimeter of space between two reflectors you need to switch to a single design.

Even with separate reflectors of the XHP70s you can CNC the edges off so that their radius is with little gap or overlapping

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Assuming it will be using 8 18650s and with the best cell being able to output 30A, maximum current will be 120A with 2s configuration. This means 15A max per emitter= more or less 65.000lm at the absolut limit.

All 8 cells would be depleted in just 5-6mins!
Better 12× 21700 cells for double runtime Cash

-Air cooled 4x XHP50.2: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/56829
-SkyRay King 4x XPL HI, TN40 clone: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55195
-XHP70.2 Maglite 2D: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54791
-SkyRay King 7x XML2, TIR, 8x 18650: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54886

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Even with separate reflectors of the XHP70s you can CNC the edges off so that their radius is with little gap or overlapping

Exactly. You still have a little gap, pfff… like a millimeter or so. If you want to get rid of that then you could look into a single piece 9 emitter design. But that’s most likely not worth it (besides looking darn good).

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This is not true on this size of the driver it would be no problem using 2 MCUs to control each LED type seperately, with upcoming Boost driver on Schokis boost chip next month we can also deal with 12V XHP voltage from 2S battery pack

Wow, this is great news. I did not know you were working on a boost driver.

Plus you can have 2 MCUs? Awesome news!

You never stop amazing me Lexel. Lol

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Kourtinoksylo wrote:
Assuming it will be using 8 18650s and with the best cell being able to output 30A, maximum current will be 120A with 2s configuration. This means 15A max per emitter= more or less 65.000lm at the absolut limit.

All 8 cells would be depleted in just 5-6mins!


Assuming it doesn’t melt internally first. Lol

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos for BLF Q8, GT, GT Mini and ROT66

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with upcoming Boost driver on Schokis boost chip next month we can also deal with 12V XHP voltage from 2S battery pack

can you share more info on this Lexel?

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I was wondering why there was such a gigantic hole in the center of the head “shelf” of the black MF03. Now We know why…reflector !

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WOW Shocked King Arthur surrounded by his knights! A flooder with throw! How SWEET is that Big Smile Thank you M4D M4X for the Picture! AWESOME Thumbs Up

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rizky_p wrote:
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with upcoming Boost driver on Schokis boost chip next month we can also deal with 12V XHP voltage from 2S battery pack

can you share more info on this Lexel?


He’s working on making his own boost driver. Here is what he told me.
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For 17-30mm is a Boost driver in development which should deliver 5-6A at 6V and 2.5-3A at 12V

I’m hoping it will be able to run NarsilM, but I haven’t heard back from him on that.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos for BLF Q8, GT, GT Mini and ROT66

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

Maukka Calibration Lights for DIY Lumen Measuring Devices 

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JasonWW wrote:
rizky_p wrote:
Lexel wrote:
with upcoming Boost driver on Schokis boost chip next month we can also deal with 12V XHP voltage from 2S battery pack

can you share more info on this Lexel?


He’s working on making his own boost driver. Here is what he told me.
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For 17-30mm is a Boost driver in development which should deliver 5-6A at 6V and 2.5-3A at 12V

I’m hoping it will be able to run NarsilM, but I haven’t heard back from him on that.

Here are more Information / Pictures: http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/threads/driver-led-pcb-community-editi...

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Any hind regarding the expected price for this monster light?

@M4D M4X: in the OP you state 7 x XHP70… but i count 8 in the pictures you posted.
Even at a conservative 3k lumen per emitter that’s no less then 24k lumen! This light will certainly peel paint and repel bears from a mile away!

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Any hind regarding the expected price for this monster light?

Good point, I want to know too LOL

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Any hind regarding the expected price for this monster light?

@M4D M4X: in the OP you state 7 x XHP70… but i count 8 in the pictures you posted.
Even at a conservative 3k lumen per emitter that’s no less then 24k lumen! This light will certainly peel paint and repel bears from a mile away!


Hey, your right. At first it was 7, but now we see 8. I’m not complaining! Lol

8 seems to fit just fine. 7 might have too much wasted space.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos for BLF Q8, GT, GT Mini and ROT66

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

Maukka Calibration Lights for DIY Lumen Measuring Devices 

Review Jaxmnve M1 Stainless 10180 Keychain light

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i asked for 8 at the beginning - they said 7 .

but i got surprised with 8 of the big ones Big Smile

 

i am not complaining either Wink

 

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This looks simply amazing. I can’t wait to see more.

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The XD80 houses 8 70.2’s with a smaller diameter orange peel reflector pushing each emitter at 4000. The MF03 has a smooth reflector from what it looks like with a 35 HI centered. The MF03 should put out blistering numbers with slightly deeper and larger reflector with great range! This is very exciting and I cant wait for specs and beam shoots! Very interested in the UI. Lets guess at the output for giggles. I will say at its max somewhere in the neighborhood of 36000 Silly What say you Big Smile

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Majoroverkill wrote:
The XD80 houses 8 70.2’s with a smaller diameter orange peel reflector pushing each emitter at 4000. The MF03 has a smooth reflector from what it looks like with a 35 HI centered. The MF03 should put out blistering numbers with slightly deeper and larger reflector with great range! This is very exciting and I cant wait for specs and beam shoots! Very interested in the UI. Lets guess at the output for giggles. I will say at its max somewhere in the neighborhood of 36000 Silly What say you Big Smile

How can you say that the reflectors of the DX80 are smaller than the reflectors on the MF03. If I compare my DX80 with the pictures of the MF03, the DX80 has bigger reflectors. The only advantage of the MF03, besides the XHP35 and probably higher output, is that the reflectors are not overlapping and did not have OP. And perhaps the MF03 has deeper reflectors because of the lower depth at the overlapping-areas. But with the diameter, the DX80 will win.

I want to know the battery configuration and the output-numbers of the MF03. Perhaps the XHP70.2’s are driven harder

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That’s why I said from what it looks like, not is. I viewed pictures of people holding the DX80 and the Video of the MF03 and just made a guess. It looks larger to me. Just an observation and nothing else.

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I will take one as soon as they are available.

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I hope they release before feb 16. Chinese New Year start feb 16.

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FYI. The MF03 has a 120mm head and the DX80 92mm head. A hole 28mm larger, the size of your mom is that you? Sorry I cant play anymore I gotta go. Silly

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need more tease?



 


1st prototye

Such a tease…we all know that video goes longer than 10 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I’ve been sitting on the code for the MF02 for a while but haven’t acted because of the few documented issues THEN this baby comes along….does the MF03 offer the best of both worlds in a flashlight that many of us are looking for ?
I wonder how the throw compares to the MF02
I hope the price is good and not too expensive

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Ragsy wrote:
I’ve been sitting on the code for the MF02 for a while but haven’t acted because of the few documented issues THEN this baby comes along….does the MF03 offer the best of both worlds in a flashlight that many of us are looking for ?
I wonder how the throw compares to the MF02
I hope the price is good and not too expensive

Perhaps the MF03 offer the best of both worlds. It will be a good flooder. But it wont be a good thrower because the inner reflector is much smaller than the MF02 of cause.
It will add a bit throw to the floodie beam. Or you can use the throw-led only and safe battery capacity.

If you want an expensive price, than you should wait for the X70 Wink
It is a similar design, but with more XHP70.2 and overlapping reflectors: http://acebeam.com/x70

If you compare both flashlights, the MF03 would be more rational, reasonable and oldschool.

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