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Interesting read, not quite sure how you’ll be putting tail switches in the side-switch equipped C8F. There’s only a flat pcb with a spring on it in the ones I have, no room for a tail switch to be added without using a different tail cap. Curious to see how you proceed.

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These just look great! How are you doing it, in an oven or with a torch?

I am having trouble understanding how you are getting it to gradually fade from the black to orange. BUT… is sure looks nice. Wink

Any info appreciated….. Thumbs Up


I tailstanded the empty L2 host in a bowl what has a little water in it about half tailcap high to keep the black end cool. And then used blowtorch to heat the bezel side.
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I’d be lying if I said I knew what I was REALLY doing here Wink

I’ve read ALL your posts on this light Dale, and they have been super helpful to a newbie like me. Truthfully, I’m going mostly on what Lexel is telling me will work for this config. As I read that he just got a C8F in recently… I assume he’s got me in good hands. But I’ll ask him about the tail cap room for sure.

One thing that I am learning is that the C8 “standard” is kinda iffy when it comes to different makers. I started off buying the eBay stuff (and was surprised at the quality of several C8 styled lights I’ve gotten over the years). My headlamp is going strong after 4 years at $14 shipped then— uses a C8 head, reflector and decent glass.

Anyway, I JUST ordered a KDlitker C8.2 in the 2600 lumen (med-white) model- GREAT little light BTW. But when I went to use my (generic) C8 tails switches I had off another light (Convoy, I think) the tail caps didn’t threat— what??? I thought ALL C8s had the SAME specs Facepalm

So learning the hard way I guess… and peeing on the electric fence a few times as I go Sick

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Lexel wrote:
Yeah received yesterday unbranded host, quite heavy for a C8
I am not sure if I like the smooth host, a bit knurling would have been nice

I wish there would be a transparent switch cover included for lighted switch board, but I will look into it later if I can find a solution


The stock switch cover is semi-transparent like on the GT.
You can replace the tube with Convoy. It is fully compatible.
Lexel can you make an Emisar D4-D1-like FET+1×7135 driver design in multiple diamters for E-switch flashlights? I will be happy with a 17mm which will be great for this host and one that fit a Skilhunt H03.
It would be great!
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These just look great! How are you doing it, in an oven or with a torch?

I am having trouble understanding how you are getting it to gradually fade from the black to orange. BUT… is sure looks nice. Wink

Any info appreciated….. Thumbs Up


I tailstanded the empty L2 host in a bowl what has a little water in it about half tailcap high to keep the black end cool. And then used blowtorch to heat the bezel side.
!http://img1.indafoto.hu/3/9/134029_e227dae7eadb61c0adb17748b381f0a8/2559...!

THAT is SOOOOOOO… COOL VozzV6! — I’m grabbing my weed burner when these Cf8s get here!!!

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THAT is SOOOOOOO… COOL VozzV6! — I’m grabbing my weed burner when these Cf8s get here!!!

Don’t forget to remove all O-rings and clean off silicon grease from threads because it will burn on them.
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The original C8F from Sofirn had a tail clicky and no side switch, the new one has the side switch and no tail clicky, I’m sure it could be arranged to use a different tail cap to get a switch back there… Wink

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I can confirm Convoy C8 battery tube and tail cap fit on the Sofirn C8F
In fact, i bought a Convoy C8 host just to swap the tube and tail cap, because i personally like the classic C8, where the tail cap design matches the head design, and i prefer the Convoy knurdled battery tube too.

So now i also have a Sofirn C8 host without any switch.. Big Smile

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DB Custom wrote:
The original C8F from Sofirn had a tail clicky and no side switch, the new one has the side switch and no tail clicky, I'm sure it could be arranged to use a different tail cap to get a switch back there... ;)
When I started this light project (for my gun), I thought... "OK, ya... I have a great soldering station AND I've soldered up OpAmps for my classic old API studio preamps (about 40 solder points on a 1" x 1" board)... so this is going to be a piece of cake!" Cool

undecided - WRONG!    

** But, after a few DAYS and NIGHTS reading up on all this, I'm starting to get most of it, but I realize I've got a ways to go.  But I'm going to be around because I love building my own things:  guns, amps, microphones, recording studios (ahem), anyway I am READY to float me some LEDs and solder me up one of the lights (after breaking open every light I already have today!)

 

Today, I pulled out my XP-L2 LEDs and the first thing I thought was, "they gave me the wrong parts!"  3.45mm is TINY!  Thankfully, I also have a good magnifier on my bench too. innocent

 

 

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Jerommel wrote:
So now i also have a Sofirn C8 host without any switch.. Big Smile

You are wrong!
It is a twisty switch Big Smile
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Jerommel wrote:
I can confirm Convoy C8 battery tube and tail cap fit on the Sofirn C8F In fact, i bought a Convoy C8 host just to swap the tube and tail cap, because i personally like the classic C8, where the tail cap design matches the head design, and i prefer the Convoy knurdled battery tube too. So now i also have a Sofirn C8 host without any switch.. Big Smile
Haha… I’m about to have a C8F with TWO switches! (I’ll figure that out then I get there)

THANKS Jerommel for that GOOD bit of news! I HAVE a C8 clicky tail cap I can convert using some parts Lexel gave me along with a remote pressure switch/wire he also sent me. Good to know I can ALSO work with modding a standard C8 tail cap as needed for Lexel’s FET board.


I think the trick to all this is to buy about 5 C8s from several sourcesmoney-mouth until I make enough mistakes Beer to: 1) know what I’m doing (then), and 2) have a drawer FULL of parts that MIGHT work with the next thing to come alongtongue-out

BTW:
KDLITKER sold me a “C8” pressure/tail switch WITH my C8.2 light I got in the same order. Yep… another hard “C8” lesson: it doesn’t fit the C8.2! I emailed KDLITKER and he said the same “matter of factly”. To his credit, he is giving me a partial credit for a future order (and so he’ll GET a future order)— good guy so far!

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Zappaman wrote:

Jerommel wrote:
I can confirm Convoy C8 battery tube and tail cap fit on the Sofirn C8F In fact, i bought a Convoy C8 host just to swap the tube and tail cap, because i personally like the classic C8, where the tail cap design matches the head design, and i prefer the Convoy knurdled battery tube too. So now i also have a Sofirn C8 host without any switch.. Big Smile
Haha… I’m about to have a C8F with TWO switches! (I’ll figure that out then I get there)
Me too, me too!
I have the side switch of the Sofirn triple head and the tail “main” switch in the Convoy tail.
So that leaves me with a Sofirn single LED host with no switch, or rather a twisty, if you must..
I’ll drill a hole and put a switch in that Sofirn tail eventually.

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These just look great! How are you doing it, in an oven or with a torch?

I am having trouble understanding how you are getting it to gradually fade from the black to orange. BUT… is sure looks nice. Wink

Any info appreciated….. Thumbs Up


I tailstanded the empty L2 host in a bowl what has a little water in it about half tailcap high to keep the black end cool. And then used blowtorch to heat the bezel side.

Oooh…. OK!! Thumbs Up . Thank you for that info ZozzV6… Wink

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have no idea why the awesome reflector was cut into a spacer in favor of the boring CUTE-3 optics though.

Hey . And why did you take what I put the reflector on the gasket?
Or is it features of machine translation?
I like the flood light of the optician Ledil Cute , I just polished the lens of the triple.
I want to ask the BLF forum masters: – Can I use the BLF A6 driver under the electronic button ?

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No, the A6 driver is for a mechanical tail switch… the side switch needs a driver built to accommodate the electronic switch which leaves power on but allows for a “sleep” mode for the MCU.

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Also, for the record, a new clear finish C8 from Convoy does not lego with the C8F concerning the tail cap. It causes glitchy behavior on the light I’m trying it on. So it might be up to luck whether your Convoy and Sofirn lights play well together…

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Well I guess I’ll start “hoping” now. Was planning to use my C8 host’s tail switch (also from Sofirn) for my C8F (WHEN it arrives!) Hoping they used the same shop to make both!

Again… I learn every day how different a C8 REALLY can be Facepalm

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If I remember correctly the threads on the tail end of the ‘Convoy Clear C8’ are not exactly the same as the current ‘Convoy Black C8’.

At least that is the only conclusion I could draw after reading the description of both hosts on RMM’s site…. Mountain Electronics.

It said the Black C8 was an ‘upgraded’ version or something to that affect.

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It said the Black C8 was an ‘upgraded’ version or something to that affect.

The upgraded black means it has the integrated shelf instead of the older threaded in pill.

Are you sure you saw it at MTN? I didn’t see any mention in the flashlight or host section. Maybe it was Simons store your thinking of.

I haven’t heard anything about the clear version being machined different. One would think that both have the same machining just different finishes.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

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JasonWW wrote:
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If I remember correctly the threads on the tail end of the ‘Convoy Clear C8’ are not exactly the same as the current ‘Convoy Black C8’.

At least that is the only conclusion I could draw after reading the description of both hosts on RMM’s site…. Mountain Electronics.

It said the Black C8 was an ‘upgraded’ version or something to that affect.

The upgraded black means it has the integrated shelf instead of the older threaded in pill.

Are you sure you saw it at MTN? I didn’t see any mention in the flashlight or host section. Maybe it was Simons store your thinking of.

I haven’t heard anything about the clear version being machined different. One would think that both have the same machining just different finishes.

The shelf replaced the pill almost 2 years ago…. so that is nothing new.
Yes it was MTN.. RMM’s place. It was not Simons store.

BUT… I DID NOT REMEMBER CORRECTLY. My bad…… Wink

It was the Convoy M1 that now has square threads at the tail.

I can confirm my Sofirn C8F WILL NOT work at all with the Convoy Clear C8 tail cap.

I can confirm my Sofirn C8F WILL work with the Convoy Clear C8 battery tube & tailcap.
………………….
Edit: this is what I “remembered incorrectly
Convoy M1
Convoy really upped on this host the ante by adding square-cut threads, matte finish hard anodizing……(snip)……

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=66&pr...

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Yeah, i noticed too and should ave mentioned that the Convoy tailcap is too deep for the Sofirn battery tube.
The de-anodized surfaces don’t meet.
The other way around (Sofirn tailcap on Convoy batt tube) works, but leaves a visible gap on the outside.

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Yeah, i noticed too and should ave mentioned that the Convoy tailcap is too deep for the Sofirn battery tube.
The de-anodized surfaces don’t meet.
The other way around (Sofirn tailcap on Convoy batt tube) works, but leaves a visible gap on the outside.
+1 Jerommel. That is exactly right. Thumbs Up

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the Sofirn C8F with a install indictor light in the side switch board, only need to do a little change.

So, I dismantled and looked at the flashlight c8f. You know, this is the best C8 I had in my hands. I want to note: a good selection of modes. Very good brightness, without outputting LEDs to overdrive. An excellent idea with the location of the button on the side, and then the tail power is fed up with people, we need lateral ones , and it’s great that it left such a massive head. The bulkhead where the star lies about 4-5 mm is excellent. A copper star with a direct heat sink is also excellent.

the button’s backlight acts as a beacon. Consumption was about 39 μA, which is quite normal. To illuminate the light-emitting diodes enough that it already approaches the button, only a jumper between the supply lead plus an empty contact is needed.To reduce the current consumption, you can remove one of the LEDs, the consumption will be halved.

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the Sofirn C8F with a install indictor light in the side switch board, only need to do a little change.

So, I dismantled and looked at the flashlight c8f. You know, this is the best C8 I had in my hands. I want to note: a good selection of modes. Very good brightness, without outputting LEDs to overdrive. An excellent idea with the location of the button on the side, and then the tail power is fed up with people, we need lateral ones , and it’s great that it left such a massive head. The bulkhead where the star lies about 4-5 mm is excellent. A copper star with a direct heat sink is also excellent.

the button’s backlight acts as a beacon. Consumption was about 39 μA, which is quite normal. To illuminate the light-emitting diodes enough that it already approaches the button, only a jumper between the supply lead plus an empty contact is needed.To reduce the current consumption, you can remove one of the LEDs, the consumption will be halved.

Good info, thank you. Thumbs Up

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Look here for the SS bezels:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32843061651.html
2 pcs for €3.05 !!

Don’t buy anything from this seller. I got one instead of two. And now the product title says 1pcs. I had a screenshot from 2pcs title and they start arguing with me that it was wrong title and packaging said 1 pcs….. if in a store there is a wrong lower price putted out they need to ask for that price only. It is not my mistake. I could buy it from banggood cheaper.:FACEPALM:
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Great host!

Yesterday I finished mine

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It pulls out 3000lm at start and +66000cd (513m)

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Hope you guys have better luck than me! I ordered a regular C8 host from Sofirn on Aliexpress back on 11/11. I got a tracking number right away, but after a month there hadn’t been any acknowledgement that the package had even been picked up. A Sofirn rep proactively reached out to me and asked if I’d like a refund or for them to resend. I chose the resend option as I’m looking forward to this host. They shipped out the new one right away and offered a discount on a future purchase.

The delay is definitely unfortunate, but is part of doing business. Sofirn’s customer service however… great experience. I like that they reached out to me, not the other way around.

We feel so sorry that the parcel on 11.11 did not arrived yet. We will refund or replacement for you. Please feel free to contact us on Aliexpress.

As we all known, shipment is vital in business. However, honestly speaking, sometime the shipment is out of control in some degree especially around 11.11. We could not image that millions of parcels shipped out everyday from 11.11 to 31.11. Some parcels stopped or lost in delivery. All sellers push and push and push and push the carriers to check the reasons, but the results are not always good or expected. Generally speaking, we would like to make replacement or refund for our customers because we want to make it right. What’s pity, we are not able to make a good compensation for customers’ waste time or feelings, who eagerly waits for months but the parcel delayed or lost in delivery.

Highly appreciated for your understanding. And please feel free to contact us with your order ID on Aliexpress, refund or replacement.

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ZozzV6 wrote:
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Look here for the SS bezels: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32843061651.html 2 pcs for €3.05 !!
Don't buy anything from this seller. I got one instead of two. And now the product title says 1pcs. I had a screenshot from 2pcs title and they start arguing with me that it was wrong title and packaging said 1 pcs..... if in a store there is a wrong lower price putted out they need to ask for that price only. It is not my mistake. I could buy it from banggood cheaper.:FACEPALM:

 

Same thing but I got 50% refund, proof that package really had only one bezel was 25g shipping weight on CN22 declaration.

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Yeah. I can confirm the modus of this seller from AliExpress. Seller falsely advertises 2 pieces for the price of 1, but seller sends only 1 piece. When confronted about it or when protest is filed, seller claims mistake or error in the title of their ads. Whether or not it was intentional, do not tolerate this practice. Make a complaint and ask for a refund. Avoid these cheating sellers in Ali, the one mentioned by ZozzV6 in particular.

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ZozzV6 wrote:
Jerommel wrote:
Look here for the SS bezels: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32843061651.html 2 pcs for €3.05 !!
Don't buy anything from this seller. I got one instead of two. And now the product title says 1pcs. I had a screenshot from 2pcs title and they start arguing with me that it was wrong title and packaging said 1 pcs..... if in a store there is a wrong lower price putted out they need to ask for that price only. It is not my mistake. I could buy it from banggood cheaper.:FACEPALM:

Same here.  I tried to work it out with the vendor directly, but the vendor kept being slippery.  I finally disputed it and asked for a 50% refund.  Then the vendor offered to send me the other bezel if I first close the dispute for "personal reasons".  Waiting for final resolution from AE.

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