LuminTop EDC05 AA(14500) Flashlight

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smirdex wrote:
Does it support protected batteries ?

I have no protected 14500 on hand.

However, there is plenty of room for protected 14500.

Sorry for my poor english.

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Thanks for the review, very good! Love it much! Thumbs Up

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Lumintop wrote:
Thanks for the review, very good! Love it much! Thumbs Up

Will the EDC05 be available at Amazon?… My employer rewards us with Amazon gift cards and I have some $$$ saved up . ;^)

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Lumintop wrote:
Thanks for the review, very good! Love it much! Thumbs Up

Will the EDC05 be available at Amazon?… My employer rewards us with Amazon gift cards and I have some $$$ saved up . ;^)

Hi, yes it will be. The EDC05 is now on the way and estimated to be available on Amazon US next Friday. Expected!

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Awesome!!! cant wait to get one. thanks

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Got my EDC05 in yesterday 1-6-2018. I was using it while taking my daughter to sleep and after about a minute on high mode the lens cracked in half Crying I contacted banggood about the problem and they took care of me today Big Smile When I chatted with Lumintop they said it was do to the bezel being to tight and the heat caused it to crack Shocked I did not know this could happen and now I know. I wonder if it could happen with larger lenses like the C8 size or large. The EDC05 is an awesome little light and the UI is great. Thumbs Up

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Well, good to know, guess when I get mine I’ll reset the bezel so it’s not as tight

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Just recieved my edc05 today. Has extra room for protected 14500 cells just like the one in the review. Super nice flashlight. Thanks for the review steel_1024.

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Lumintop wrote:
kramer5150 wrote:
Lumintop wrote:
Thanks for the review, very good! Love it much! Thumbs Up

Will the EDC05 be available at Amazon?… My employer rewards us with Amazon gift cards and I have some $$$ saved up . ;^)

Hi, yes it will be. The EDC05 is now on the way and estimated to be available on Amazon US next Friday. Expected!

LUMINTOP EDC05
XP-L or XP-L Hi

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You can see from the photo that is a XP-L Hi.

Sorry for my poor english.

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what light is on the right side?

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zelee wrote:
what light is on the right side?

Eagle Eye F10

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Does anyone have beamshots of this light? Wink
Specially to see how it reaches in distance (once it has XPL-HI), and if possible compared with other AA/14500 flashlights!

A new member asked for a AA light with similar characteristics of the ones that this EDC05 has, but with throw, and I recommended to take a look to this one.
Having pictures (if possible comparing it with others) would be great to see what this light does Wink

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I had the same problem with 2 utorch ut01 from GB. They resend and the 3rd one was ok. I noticed the driver on old utorch is different has a manker logo,but new ones do not,and the driver on lumintop look the same as the one on the utorch. So the problem is driver. For the money lumintop shoul have better quality control and made their own driver…

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I agree. Don’t get me wrong, the physical design of the light is fantastic. I really like the machine work and springs, however that really doesn’t mean much if the job it’s designed to do falls short.

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Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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My EDC05 has been erratic and inconsistent with NiMH and Alkaleak. 14500 cells though have been alright (since I always unscrew the tailcap anyways).

EDC05
14500 IMR
>LMHT = All work fine
>Must power interrupt tailcap to turn back on

Eneloop
>LMH = All work fine, Turbo shuts off after a second
>Must power interrupt tailcap to turn back on

Alkaleak
>LM = All work fine. H is dimmer than eneloop or 14500. Turbo shuts off after a second
>Don’t need power interrupt tailcap to turn back on

E^2 Lithium
>LMH = All work fine. Turbo shuts off after a second
>Don’t need power interrupt tailcap to turn back on

Every once in a while, with random battery changes using Alkaleak, E^2 and eneloop the EDC05 would enter a WEIRD mode sequence… LMH, Strobe, SOS, Beacon, OFF. Turning it back ON, it would then proceed to behave as above… LMH and Turbo 1 sec shut off

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Is this light available anywhere? Amazon is preferred, but open to other sources as well.

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zelee wrote:

What is the light on the left side? I “need” more flat dark earth lights in my life :D.

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pcruz wrote:
Is this light available anywhere? Amazon is preferred, but open to other sources as well.

I don’t think we will see more on Amazon until the driver issues are sorted out. They have acknowledged to me that a driver issue is indeed present. Looking forward to the fixes as its a nice looking light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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There are a lot of common elements between many Chinese flashlights.

It makes me think that all the brands are buying parts from the same source, with some customization, such as different LEDs, a magnet or not, where the knurling is cut, etc.

It also seems the drivers have similar printed literature regarding lumen levels and mode sequence diagrams..:

Im not sure any of them are clones or copies, more like some sort of shared supply chain to which different logos are applied..

In general there seems to be a pattern that Manker sometimes provides drivers with the Manker logo, for example for the Astrolux A01. Then when a contract expires, sometimes the vendors source slightly different drivers, such as the current Astrolux A01.

I see a similar pattern with the Utorch and Lumintop drivers in this thread, they are similar to the Manker branded version, but not necessarily identical.

It does appear to me that the Manker branded drivers tend to be better, and that the unbranded drivers are less reliable, as in the case of the Lumintop EDC05, or even have different features, for example the Astrolux A01 w Manker driver did not have Next Mode Memory, but the driver now being used, without the Manker logo, in the A01 does have Next Mode Memory.

to me, that all adds up to a common source, but each brand then adds certain details, some of which seem to be more to my liking than others…

I see similar patterns in the Roof Top Tent category, and in the One Wheel category. A Roof Top Tent can be had direct from china for under $1000, but once Tepui, or James Baroud, add their own enhancements, be that different canvas, color, springs, pull tabs, latches, then the item jumps to $4000 when rebranded and sold in the US. Same with One Wheels. Buy from a USA company, pay $1500, buy direct from china, $395. Again not identical in every detail, the USA company upgrades the tires for example, changes the colors.. etc..

but the tents, one wheels, and flashlights and drivers, are all being sourced from Chinese factories that seem to start with the same base parts, and then take orders for enhanced features.

imo, the Manker labeled models tend to be more to my liking, maybe of higher reliability. Note for example the debacle of the poor performance of the Lumintop EDC05 driver, which bears some resemblance, but not in every way, to the Manker driver.. etc

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IMO I think the EDC05 has the best look to it. I like the design. It’s almost like the barrel of a gun. I would like to see the EDC05 get the bugs worked out as I think it could be one good light. Having that ability to use a protected cell offers good flexibility. I like the Manker E11 too. I’ve never owned one though. Perhapse in the near future if the Manker T01 II impresses me once I get them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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sovereignknight wrote:
IMO I think the EDC05 has the best look to it.

well, looks aint everything

Between the Manker E11 and the Lumintop EDC05, it seems like maybe the Manker version is more reliable, it also costs less

I have no dog in the race, I have lights from both brands that I like (I dont have either brand in AA myself)

with the Manker A01 vs Astrolux E01 I also think its the Manker version that is more desireable, although in this case it costs a bit more

I dont know much about the Utorch UT01 AA option. I do have an AA Thorfire TK05 I got for free, in exchange for a review. but I hardly ever use Cool White lights. Im a Nichia nut.

When I read about these XP-L lights, or XPG3 in the case of the Thorfire TK05, my mind immediately goes to thinking it would take a Nichia swap. While the XM-L lights dont allow me that fantasy.

at the end of the day, whatever gets you through is good, even if that means were guinea pigs for Asian battery tube sales

enjoy whichever one turns on for you the best Wink

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sovereignknight wrote:
I don’t think we will see more on Amazon until the driver issues are sorted out. They have acknowledged to me that a driver issue is indeed present. Looking forward to the fixes as its a nice looking light.

Is there a thread on these driver issues you can point to?

I have one of these coming from GB that should be here any day and I want to know what to look for.

Thanks!

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Luminosity wrote:
Is there a thread on these driver issues you can point to?
read post 47, and the other posts in this thread

I also did a search for you:
more threads about the EDC05, maybe read through them to see what else is being said about it
http://budgetlightforum.com/search?q_as=LuminTop%20EDC05

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jon_slider wrote:
read post 47, and the other posts in this thread

I also did a search for you:
more threads about the EDC05, maybe read through them to see what else is being said about it
http://budgetlightforum.com/search?q_as=LuminTop%20EDC05

Post #47 just sounded like a bad light, and I already read those other threads. In fact some of them praised the Lumintop driver as being good, which is why I asked my question.

So, I’ll wait for sovereignknight’s response, thank you very much.

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There is my post,

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57095?page=1#comment-1282781

I was in talks with a Lumintop representative and they are aware of a driver issue that needs to be sorted out.

I’d like to add my third light has been working fine so far, but I mainly stick to the Eneloop Pro in it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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I got my EDC05 yesterday. Apparently I ordered from BG not GB. Hard to remember when it shows up a month later. Whatever.

More importantly, no issues so far. Used a protected Sanyo (EVVA) 14500 and an Eneloop and ran it through its paces. Programmed the modes to the levels I like, clicked it on/off a few hundred times. Let it run on turbo for several minutes.

Time will tell if the driver holds up, but the features, build quality and form factor are really nice. Fingers crossed.

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I wasn’t aware the EDC05 was programmable. How was this achieved?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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Programmable = Configurable

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EDC05 has no programmable modes according to research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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