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Ok I went out and took a few shots with the TC20 I did my review on. Taken from 22 Feet away at a WHITE garage door , paint is a semi dark beige and the trim is a rust red.

Did this so those asking about the tint on the cool white can judge for themselves , as to whether they like the tint this ONE particular sample I did the review on with the COOL white emitter.

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Nice beam and really bright!

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robo819 wrote:
Ok I went out and took a few shots with the TC20 I did my review on. Taken from 22 Feet away at a WHITE garage door , paint is a semi dark beige and the trim is a rust red.

Did this so those asking about the tint on the cool white can judge for themselves , as to whether they like the tint this ONE particular sample I did the review on with the COOL white emitter.

I’m not seeing the “sickly greenish’ tint reported by Gebe in an earlier post for the CW version, so he may have got a loosing ticket in the tint lottery. I can’t even notice the tint shift in the photos. But for me the real test is when it’s beamed at some leafy greens, trees, shrubs etc.

Not sure the CCT of the CW version but personally I most likely wouldn’t be happy with anything 6000K or higher. It’ll be interesting to see what abglenn has to say, soon he’ll have both tints.

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Still wondering what the CCT is on these.

Measured my NW TC20:
hotspot 4800K
spill 5600K

Have a look at maukka’s review of the Acebeam K30. Temp and tint wise the TC20 is quite similar but not as bad due to the smaller OP reflector.

Thanks, this is a great help!

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I wonder how this compares to the 3,850 lumen Acebeam EC50 Gen III with the XHP 70.2 emitter

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SKV89 wrote:
I wonder how this compares to the 3,850 lumen Acebeam EC50 Gen III with the XHP 70.2 emitter

See previous post by edness (post #80)
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1264285#comment-1264285

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Interesting beam. It’s bright, very bright, no doubt about that.
For me the first picture is the most visible one. In the last picture I see one big bright white area. In the first picture I see what the garage door actually looks like. The best part, for me is in the spill.
I even have that problem with my 650lm flashlight. Lot’s of lumen is great when lighting up an large area. But when detail is needed, like reading the label on an paint can in the basement it blinds me.
If the OP deems this question off-topic then I’ll start another thread…
What can be done to make the whole garage door as visible as in the four corners of the first picture? Less lumens? More floody? Different tint? Higher CRI? Maybe a different color like green? Something else?

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Interesting beam. It’s bright, very bright, no doubt about that.
For me the first picture is the most visible one. In the last picture I see one big bright white area. In the first picture I see what the garage door actually looks like. The best part, for me is in the spill.
I even have that problem with my 650lm flashlight. Lot’s of lumen is great when lighting up an large area. But when detail is needed, like reading the label on an paint can in the basement it blinds me.
If the OP deems this question off-topic then I’ll start another thread…
What can be done to make the whole garage door as visible as in the four corners of the first picture? Less lumens? More floody? Different tint? Higher CRI? Maybe a different color like green? Something else?
Sounds like what you’re describing is the hotspot “washing out” the subject. You need a triple, quad, or multi-emitter in a TIR optic, (pure flood – no concentrated hotspot) Astrolux MF01 219C maybe?

I recently got one of these with Nichia 219C 5700K (tint is pure white) 720lm so no where near as bright as this TC20, but it’s no slouch either, and great for reading those paint cans Silly JAXMAN-E2L-3LED-TIR-LENS-flashlight-18650

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@beam0
I saved your post for later reference. I’ve learned something. For my use more LEDs is best. Astrolux is to big. I certainly want to stay below 60mm. 40-50mm is what I think is ideal for my type of use. Do certain types of lenses reduce/remove the hotspot?

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SKV89 wrote:
I wonder how this compares to the 3,850 lumen Acebeam EC50 Gen III with the XHP 70.2 emitter

The Gen III is not out yet, but judging by the only picture I have seen, it will have a smooth reflector. Most likely the tint shift will be much worse than the TC20 but slightly better than the K30. I doubt they will make many other changes; just a new reflector and a new emitter, probably driven harder, to stay in the lumen race.
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RT— wrote:
SKV89 wrote:
I wonder how this compares to the 3,850 lumen Acebeam EC50 Gen III with the XHP 70.2 emitter

The Gen III is not out yet, but judging by the only picture I have seen, it will have a smooth reflector. Most likely the tint shift will be much worse than the TC20 but slightly better than the K30. I doubt they will make many other changes; just a new reflector and a new emitter, probably driven harder, to stay in the lumen race.
Gen III?? My apologies, oops! Thanks for pointing it out, I didn’t know GEN III existed, guess I wasn’t paying much attention since SKV89 did write “3,850 lumen” and “XHP 70.2 emitter” both of which I knew the EC50 II was not. Facepalm

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Now I’m also very curious about how it will compare! For one thing the Thrunite TC20 is 13mm shorter, and to me that’s a lot.

As far as the tint shift with SMO reflector… We possibly could look at the Acebeam L30 (4000lm XHP 70.2) I’ve also been considering that one lately, there are several reviews on it but I don’t recall if any reviewed the NW version.

For the L30 Acebeam lists in the features: “Smooth reflector for max. light output” however in one of the photos they have “Moderately Texturing finished reflector” so i’m wondering if it’s actually Light Orange Peel and maybe the EC50 III will have the same.

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ZoomieFan wrote:
@beam0
I saved your post for later reference. I’ve learned something. For my use more LEDs is best. Astrolux is to big. I certainly want to stay below 60mm. 40-50mm is what I think is ideal for my type of use. Do certain types of lenses reduce/remove the hotspot?
Yes, have look at these:

JAXMAN-E2L-3LED-TIR-frosted-LENS

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54834

But I’m afraid much further discussion about it here will derail too much, so maybe start a new thread on the subject?

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Now I’m also very curious about how it will compare! For one thing the Thrunite TC20 is 13mm shorter, and to me that’s a lot.

As far as the tint shift with SMO reflector… We possibly could look at the Acebeam L30 (4000lm XHP 70.2) I’ve also been considering that one lately, there are several reviews on it but I don’t recall if any reviewed the NW version.

For the L30 Acebeam lists in the features: “Smooth reflector for max. light output” however in one of the photos they have “Moderately Texturing finished reflector” so i’m wondering if it’s actually Light Orange Peel and maybe the EC50 III will have the same.


The 13mm difference is alot.

I forgot about the L30 http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57631 Looks smooth to me. And a rainbow on both CW and NW. It’s just a feature of the emitter.
You might be right about the EC50-III. The K60 has an OP reflector but they went for LOP on the K65.

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RT— wrote:
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Now I’m also very curious about how it will compare! For one thing the Thrunite TC20 is 13mm shorter, and to me that’s a lot.

As far as the tint shift with SMO reflector… We possibly could look at the Acebeam L30 (4000lm XHP 70.2) I’ve also been considering that one lately, there are several reviews on it but I don’t recall if any reviewed the NW version.

For the L30 Acebeam lists in the features: “Smooth reflector for max. light output” however in one of the photos they have “Moderately Texturing finished reflector” so i’m wondering if it’s actually Light Orange Peel and maybe the EC50 III will have the same.


The 13mm difference is alot.

I forgot about the L30 http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57631 Looks smooth to me. And a rainbow on both CW and NW. It’s just a feature of the emitter.
You might be right about the EC50-III. The K60 has an OP reflector but they went for LOP on the K65.

Thanks, that’s one of the reviews I was reading couldn’t remember if it was NW version. I still have the L30 under serious consideration for a tactical light, but the TC20 will be a good pocket light for utility/camping/mini searchlight etc.

I much prefer the flat SS bezel of the Thrunite, don’t need those crenelations for that type of flashlight.

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Ok I went out and took a few shots with the TC20 I did my review on. Taken from 22 Feet away at a WHITE garage door , paint is a semi dark beige and the trim is a rust red.

Did this so those asking about the tint on the cool white can judge for themselves , as to whether they like the tint this ONE particular sample I did the review on with the COOL white emitter.

Medium

High

Turbo
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Thanks for the pics! When I posted about my TC20 in CW, maybe I shouldn’t have stated “sickly” but to me it’s close.

Notice robo’s first shot at the top picture in the medium mode and notice the darker perimeter around the beam at the edges of the door. Now imagine that but much, much brighter. That’s kind of what my TC20’s CW tints looked liked in all modes except turbo. The turbo mode was the exception and mirrored turbo’s shot.

Like stated before, I’m a CW junkie and imagine getting a light with most modes except the turbo that looked like that! I’m picky but not too excessive but this light’s tints I couldn’t stand. Also imagine getting a Emisar D1 a month earlier and it is the most perfect CW tint I’ve ever seen in ALL modes! Yeah, big letdown with this light and I wanted to like it so much.

Anyway, I guess in the tint lottery I lost. I wonder if anyone else who ordered CW will too. I hope not!

Sent it back to Thrulite today and I know I’m being picky again, but I shouldn’t have had to pay return shipping especially with their “satisfaction guaranteed” warrantee.

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I’m still amazed and intrigued this newer breed of single-cell flashlights at around 4000lm can use a protected battery. That just goes against what I’ve learned on BLF about “hot rod” lights. But a welcome advancement indeed.

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I just preordered a tc20 with CW, using tc20 coupon code.. i hope i make a great decision..

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My cool white just shipped.

Update: Got it today. Happy to say I like a lot better than my neutral white version. I still notice a tint shift, but it’s not as bad as the neutral version. One BLF member didn’t like his because he noticed a greenish tint, Thankfully, I’m not noticing that with mine. All in all I’m very happy with my purchase. BTW, I’m not going to sell my neutral white version. I’ll be using that in my boiler room as a service light.

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Hey, glad you like it! Yeah, the old tint lottery. After dozens of lights purchased through the years, I’ve only had one other light, (which was very green), and this TC20 with it’s muddled beam that I actually couldn’t stand to look at their beams.

Maybe because I WON the lottery bigtime with my CW D1, I’m now spoiled. Smile

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Hey guys,

How does Thrunite TC20 compare to Utorch UT02. Both these lights are 26650 powered.

I ordered the Neutal White Version of Utorch UT02 neutral white.

Just wondering if I should order which version of Thrunite TC20?

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mmalive wrote:
Hey guys,

How does Thrunite TC20 compare to Utorch UT02. Both these lights are 26650 powered.

I ordered the Neutal White Version of Utorch UT02 neutral white.

Just wondering if I should order which version of Thrunite TC20?

I personally cant answer that one as I do not have the UT20. Hopefully someone will pop in that has both.

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Gebe wrote:
Hey, glad you like it! Yeah, the old tint lottery. After dozens of lights purchased through the years, I’ve only had one other light, (which was very green), and this TC20 with it’s muddled beam that I actually couldn’t stand to look at their beams.

Maybe because I WON the lottery bigtime with my CW D1, I’m now spoiled. Smile

I have both the Emisar D1, and a D1S cool white flashlights. Both have the ultimate cool white tints. That being said, I’m still very satified with the not so perfect cool white Thrunite TC20.

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I’m really glad you are satisfied with yours.

It’s amazing that a light like my D1 at almost half the price of the TC20 and has a perfect switch with no mushiness, and a perfect CW tint, (to me!).

It’s also plenty bright enough for almost any of my needs and if it wasn’t, I’d just buy a D4 with it’s amazing turbo mode and get two lights for almost the price of one TC20!

Besides, for the most part, the TC20’s turbo mode with the 3800lm it produces, doesn’t impress me that much over what the D4 and D1 turbo modes put out. As a plus, the D1 and D4 are so much smaller.

Believe me, I’m not slamming the TC20 and if you like it, that’s all that matters. Go for it!

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mmalive wrote:
Hey guys,

How does Thrunite TC20 compare to Utorch UT02. Both these lights are 26650 powered.

I ordered the Neutal White Version of Utorch UT02 neutral white.

Just wondering if I should order which version of Thrunite TC20?

These are 2 different flashights .

UT02 has ~1000 lumens and throws about 95kcd , it is a thrower .

TC20 has 3600 lumens and throws about 32kcd , it is more of a flooder .

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mmalive wrote:
Hey guys,

How does Thrunite TC20 compare to Utorch UT02. Both these lights are 26650 powered.

I ordered the Neutal White Version of Utorch UT02 neutral white.

Just wondering if I should order which version of Thrunite TC20?

These are 2 different flashights .

UT02 has ~1000 lumens and throws about 95kcd , it is a thrower .

TC20 has 3600 lumens and throws about 32kcd , it is more of a flooder .

So 1 is thrower vs flooder. But price difference is double for TC20. UT02 around $40.

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I think thrunite tc20 is a great deal. $72 with the coupon.. you cant beat that.. d4, d1, tc20 are different light…

D4 optics lense.. great… all the lumen are in one hot spot.. brighter and generate more heat.
tc20. General use light.. one guy reviewed he run 2 hours @ 1800 lumen..

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Gebe wrote:
I’m really glad you are satisfied with yours.

It’s amazing that a light like my D1 at almost half the price of the TC20 and has a perfect switch with no mushiness, and a perfect CW tint, (to me!).

It’s also plenty bright enough for almost any of my needs and if it wasn’t, I’d just buy a D4 with it’s amazing turbo mode and get two lights for almost the price of one TC20!

Besides, for the most part, the TC20’s turbo mode with the 3800lm it produces, doesn’t impress me that much over what the D4 and D1 turbo modes put out. As a plus, the D1 and D4 are so much smaller.

Believe me, I’m not slamming the TC20 and if you like it, that’s all that matters. Go for it!

The D1 only puts out 1300lm on turbo, or am I missing something?

You really can’t compare this to Emisar …

The D4 can only run in turbo for what… maybe 20-30 seconds? And how many 20 second turbo blasts are you going to get before the battery needs recharged? And I’ve read it gets burning hot within seconds on turbo:

Quote from the maker of D4 (Hank @ Int’l Outdoor):

“The D4 will produce tremendous heat on turbo mode, and heat up very fast (10~20 seconds for the thermal protection to kick in depends on the cell)”

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The TC20 will run in Turbo for several minutes before step down begins, that’s a huge difference, plus with the 5000mAh 26650 you have a much greater battery capacity, not to mention the TC20 boasts a rated 320m beam distance. Yes both the D1 & D1S will out throw it, but neither are “lumen monsters” And the D4 is pretty much a close range flooder.

I’m not slamming the Emisar either – I’ll be ordering a D4 soon, the TC20 and D4 are both great flashlights but they definitely have their different uses.

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Thrunite just replied to me the NW version wouldn’t be available again for about 2 months, however on their listing instead of showing “not currently available” it now shows a ship date: “Expected ship date is 02/23/2018” so about 1 month actually.

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Anyone know what other 26650’s fit into this light?

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CM2010 wrote:
Anyone know what other 26650’s fit into this light?

I haven’t tried yet, but I’m pretty sure my Efest unprotected 4200 and 5200mAh flat tops will work. I’ll check later

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