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"Flame" LED light bulb

As far as I can tell, nothing like this has been posted here before. I could be wrong, there is just SO MUCH stuff here it is very possible it got by me. If it got by anybody else, well here it is again.
I had never heard of these, it was wife that pointed me towards them. Somehow she knew about them and asked me to look into it.
Well, I did and ordered a couple. They came in about a week for Christmas and I must say, they exceeded my expectations.
The “Flame” effect is quit nice. My camera doesn’t depict the effect very well so I will just link some YouTube videos that are much better than anything I could put together. The first one from “BigClive”

After I saw how well they worked, I went out and found a used light fixture for it.
My wife LOVES it

Happy wife, happy life Smile

Here is the link to where I ordered mine:

The price has already gone down since then, I paid $12 something each

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I’m glad you posted this. I saw an ad for those a couple of months ago and meant to look into them. This will sure make fake fire props for school plays much easier Thumbs Up

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Looks great, especially in an old fixture.

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I’ve got one from Utorch on the way – from GB.

It looks pretty cool for the price… Not sure what i’m gonna do with it or if i’ll order more. I could certainly swap all my outdoor lights for those, but i don’t think they put out much useful light. I’ll see when i get it.

In a promo email i got today from GB or BG there are half a dozen such lights from different brands and about the same price ($6). Some seem to have some sort of flame like filaments inside… Not sure. The one i ordered doesn’t seem to have those – or maybe the picts have been doctored.

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Wow, those are neat! Thank you for sharing! Thumbs Up

I found a YouTube video from November 2017 with a comparison of five models available from Amazon:

Your link isn’t showing. Can you post it again?

Does your bulb’s effect resemble any of the five featured in the video I shared?

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Just received this unbranded model from gearbest. Unfortunately, I can see all the individual LED’s. Is it possible to diffuse this internally? Thanks

https://www.gearbest.com/novelty-lighting/pp_1391318.html

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Can you add a link to where you purchased them ??

Thanks

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Yeah, when I was looking around for any source of 1800K LEDs, or at least 2000K LEDs, I came across these back in November. Seemed a sin to grind up one of those just for the chips…

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agent80 wrote:
Just received this unbranded model from gearbest. Unfortunately, I can see all the individual LED’s. Is it possible to diffuse this internally? Thanks

https://www.gearbest.com/novelty-lighting/pp_1391318.html

That was my biggest fear as I ordered mine. I tried to get the same one BigClive had. It seems I was able to do that.
As is usually the case, other companies come out with clones that may or may not work as well. The ones I recieved not show individual LED’s. They are diffused enough that they can not be seen.

Here is the link again. Even so, there is no guarantee you will receive stock I did. Things change, the price already has………..

As a matter of fact, when I go to my order history at the top of the page I get this message

“The listing below has been updated by the seller, but you can see the item you purchased.”

In other words, they no longer sell the same exact item that I received. More and more I have come to realize that it is just about impossible to know what I will get when I order something on eBay.

I just spent 2 months trying to get a low profile (half height) USB3.0 card. First time I ordered the low profile from TomTop but received a full height card. They apologized and refunded me. Then I ordered the same card from another vendor and received the same wrong card, fulfilled by TomTop. Got another refund and now 2 months later I still don’t have the low profile card I need.

I would like to get more of these bulbs, but I don’t know if I can get the ones I want

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Stittville Ed wrote:
Can you add a link to where you purchased them ??

Thanks

I pulled the link because I don’t trust it now
Here it is again, good luck

Flame Bulb

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GB has a flame-bulb for 7bux each on a flash sale, good for up to 2. (3rd would be regular price.)

I ordered a pair just for s&g.

Check the “gearbest official deals” thread (which I don’t have handy, erm).

BG had/has a sale for, again, a flame-bulb for 7.50, and others for >10bux. Already deleted the email “flyer”, but try goggling it.

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Where did you buy it ?

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agent80 wrote:
Just received this unbranded model from gearbest. Unfortunately, I can see all the individual LED’s. Is it possible to diffuse this internally? Thanks

https://www.gearbest.com/novelty-lighting/pp_1391318.html

That’s the one i ordered but have yet to receive.

If the transparent part can be unscrewed or otherwise taken apart you may be able to tape some tracing/transfer paper inside. You can also try to ‘frost’ it with sand paper… Now if you use the light inside an appliance where you dont see the bulb directly it would not matter much.

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just ordered that one from BG :

flame light

it looks like the best one from bigclive test Silly

just need wait till february when i’ll receive it via transiberian or azerbaijian airway… Davie

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Here are some pics of the actual bulb and the box it came in. It was the 6.5W version. Notice the vent holes.
I was lucky also in that this bulb has the “break away” as described the comparison video posted here.


Here is a short video shot against an open window during the day. With my cell phone it was the only way I could get a video of how the effect looks in real life.


And here is another tear down by someone explaining why some bulbs diffuse better than others

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Very cool! Ima have to order some of these. Thanks for posting, very informative.

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Matthew

 

 

 

 

 

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The transparent part does not unscrew. Is it glued? How do I forcibly open it. I tried the tracing paper on the outside, it did not work.

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If the transparent part can be unscrewed or otherwise taken apart you may be able to tape some tracing/transfer paper inside. You can also try to ‘frost’ it with sand paper… Now if you use the light inside an appliance where you dont see the bulb directly it would not matter much.
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That last video was very helpful, and a nifty handyman should be able to create some kind of additional diffusion if required in a bulb.
I have seen a “flame bulb” in our local garden store and it, albeit diffused properly, didn’t look like an actual flame at all. There wasn’t enough “randomness” and “warmth” a natural flame would give. Also wasn’t very bright. I wouldn’t be interested in paying 6-7 bucks for something unrealistic and low-lumen.

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Wishing for a GROUP BUY from a dedicated vendor that can provide what we really want in a flicker flame bulb.

Dchomac,yours looks really nice. Would make perfect GroupBuy?

 

SUBSCRIBED !!!

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I ordered one weeks ago, intended it for a Christmas present but it still hasn’t arrived. Was hoping it would be as advertised, paid about $20 for it and didn’t know it was out there at so many other places.

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Streamer wrote:

Wishing for a GROUP BUY from a dedicated vendor that can provide what we really want in a flicker flame bulb.


Dchomac,yours looks really nice. Would make perfect GroupBuy?


 


SUBSCRIBED !!!

As I noted above, I’m not that confident that I would get the same bulbs second time around.
With these guys, “parts is parts”

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I opened the transparent part. Tried diffusing with tissue paper and tracing paper. Neither worked. The LED’s are still clearly visible. Any ideas?

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As someone mentioned, the problem is the LED’s are too close to the diffuser.
And for the right effect, I would think that exact distance is critical. Too close and you see the individual LED’s, too far and you loose the flame effect

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agent80 wrote:
I opened the transparent part. Tried diffusing with tissue paper and tracing paper. Neither worked. The LED’s are still clearly visible. Any ideas?

Frosted glass. <shrug/>

From a distance, say, in an outside light, unless you’re a red-tailed hawk or something, I doubt you’d be able to distinguish individual LEDs.

Maybe instead of wrapping the inside with paper and the like, a thin layer of cotton “fuzz” around the outside might diffuse the light a little more without too much light loss.

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I ordered a YWX ( https://www.gearbest.com/globe-bulbs/pp_728973.html ) flame bulb and put it in an electric lantern fixture from walmart. My wife who originally thought “why bother” now loves it. Very smooth and the “lantern” showcases it perfectly.

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I had bought 2 of these bulbs, so this morning paid a visit to the local Goodwill Store
I went there looking for a second lamp for my other bulb. This kind of store will lots of lamps at very cheap prices, probably one of the best places to look. Other stores similar to The Goodwill Store is the Salvation Army Store and ReStore. Other places to look could be “Thrift Shops” Consignment Shops, Used Furniture Stores, Antique Stores, etc. etc.
By posting this I’m just trying throw out some ideas.
Anyway, in the back of this store I came across all of these lights. What I was kind of looking for jumped right out.

The one to the left of this one isn’t a lamp, but rather a candlestick holder. If it wasn’t for the center one I would have grabbed it and converted it into a lamp. Easier to buy the one already set up though. And the price was only $5!


This one came with a frosted “chimney” which might help out those with Flame Lights that show LED’s
The light output is not diminished that much, and I could still see the flame effect through the frosted glass.

I wish I had a way to shoot video that recorded more closely what I see. Here are 2 very short YouTube videos using a clear chimney and the frosted chimney.
Clear chimney


Same bulb, frosted chimney
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Just like I said… Big Smile

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Lightbringer wrote:
Just like I said… Big Smile

Yep, ya nailed it Crown

In my case the individual LED’s can’t be seen with either clear or frosted.
What can be a problem with these bulbs other than some do show the individual LED’s, and that for some of us, we get too picky.
My father once said that if you stand too close to a painting, so close that you see the individual brush marks, you don’t see the true beauty of the painting. (In other words you can find fault with anything if you look too close) Wink

So with the bulb I got, I can take my pick:

Use the clear chimney and get to see the true flame effect, but also see the ugly bulb
Or use the frosted chimney, get less flame effect, but see no ugly bulb

Neither is absolutely optimal, but both are quite good enough!

Bottom line, if one received a bulb that shows the LED’s, use a frosted globe and be HAPPY. Smile

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Cool looking flame lights. I have several oil lamps from the 1800’s that were converted to electric. They belonged to my Great Grandparents and possibly their parents. Those flame bulbs might give these a nice effect.

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This entire thread brings back memories of the extreme fake flame lights years back:


https://www.amazon.com/Fortune-Products-FLM-200-Cauldron-Diameter/dp/B07...

They had permanently lit LEDs and silk cloth that moved because a fan was blowing! Big Smile
Sounds ridiculous but it didn’t look half-bad at all, guess we are now in the generation where LEDs have improved this product line.

ps Happy New Year to our OZ & some Asian members, you guys are already in 2018.

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There are lots of other ways to get that “Flame” effect. Here is one that uses LED technology, depending…….
Very high tech using single core processors and up. This one even has sound Big Smile

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