The new Jaxman E3 flashlight comes in the new year

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lmns wrote:
Wouldn’t mind if they dropped all Cree emitters except in throwers. The 219c seems good enough to make high CRI the default for most floody EDC lights.

Agreed

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1. I prefer low, med, high. No moonlight. Some people want moonlight. Maybe you can make moonlight an option that can be changed by soldering a star on the driver.
2. I prefer XM size for more flood.
3. No PWM, please.
4. Is it easy to unscrew the bezel, so I can change the LED?

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Jerommel wrote:
Best to start with MEDIUM. Because medium is most usable.

I concur, as long as that medium is close to a 100 lumen value (for NiMH).

EyeballFryer wrote:
4. Is it easy to unscrew the bezel, so I can change the LED?

Looks like it’s an integrated head design now. It will be a bit more difficult than the pill version.

and on the first day he said "Let there be light"...

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jaxman wrote:
AND THERE IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING TO DISCUSS. THAT IS: 1, high- middle- very low or high- middle? 2,use 5050 LED or 3535 LED? I think the reflector is small, if we use a XML SIZE —-flood well; if use xpg2 /nichia 219 size—-have a well spot… 3,and the high CRI and normal LED are also need to be considered….

I vote for
1) verylow-low -> middle -> high
3) high CRI 4000K-5000K

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hi, thanks for your advice.
but,I think xpl hi is not a good choice. for:

1) xpl hi gives little flux than other LED with s lens, like xml, xpg. for example, the xpl hi in 3A, gives only 900 lms, less than the xml2 1100lms.

2) xpl hi leds’ advantage is based on its small core and big power. but if you want get it advantage, we need a bigger reflector. while E3 has a limited OD, the reflector only has a 16mm diameter reflecting surface. We should design products based on all datas, not our idea…… that is my opinion.

3)maybe xpl hd is propper, but I think in many situations, xpl hd is only a concept to talk, not too much advantage.

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hi, I want make things simple.
I want moon light-middle-high.

As over-Discharge protection, AA/Ni MH we set a 0.9V stopping work protection,while Li Ion, how to do? so a good way to resolve it is adding protect board on 14500 battery.

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hi , the fat SS bezel is because its structure, and there is also a O ring before the glass, so ……no way to make it more thin…..

With a Ni MH battery, now the out put can upto 900+ mA. This value will be influenced by the quality of battery.

As LED, yes I also agree to 3535 led, XPG2, 219C, and LG 3535 are also Ok.

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I only make a trial selling of new E3,
not old version.

All is according to the discription of the item page.

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thanks for your advice.

I prefer to make simple function lights. I am making simple and steady tools from begin…………..I dont know what is BLF A6 either…and I also feel hard to make too complexd UI,

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I think it is no doubt that: they copied us.
Jaxman E3 issued in Feb,2015. Only because of we are not famous brand, and we insisting quality not quantity, so we are not known as much as the cheaper flashlights brand.

One word, if they provide a selling record early than Mar 2015,I will apologize here.

Dont forget, Manker had copy us Z1 flashlight and titled it as a COMETA flashlights , and had been selling in BLF. It is just happend years ago….
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/47034

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hi, really, only a few factories engaging metal machining in China, and most flashlight factory dont machine metal part themselves. This is according to economical principles.

We keep at least 2 metal machining factories. And as business partners, we are keeping very good relationship with our supplier. Our supplier never sell host to others without our permission. That is a base of corperation between any such kind of partners. If a metal machine factory do business by selling their custmer’s design, I think they will make good business at all.

As others brand related, I dont want to say too more. For ourselves,we never use the same design with other flashlights brand. We are just to be us,Jaxman.

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“Jaxman”, thanks for all the answers and explanations given Wink
I guess this will be a top quality light!

May I ask you: what will be the diameter of the driver? 15mm, 17mm?

Also, do you intend to have the light glued?

Thank you very much, again, for your work Wink

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I have to agree with others on the moon/low/med/high. Small led footprint. And interested in driver size too.

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I like the idea of a driver customizable by soldering/unsoldering stars. Quick enough to change, but no need to memorize mode group change instructions, and no accidental mode group changes. Also much easier and beginner friendly than reflashing, or even swapping a driver.

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Subbed! Jaxman you have impressed me again! I want one! Lets see…. I currently own 1 Jaxman Z1 and two Jaxman E2L. It’s time for the E3!

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x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
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Interesting to know the timelime of this design. I might just give the new E3 a go

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The Jaxman E2L is one of my favorite lights. I consider it as a high quality light. I also own a Jaxman U1 and a M8.
Now I’m very curious about the new E3!
I’d like to see this one with a high-cri emitter. Moon-mode would be nice to have, indeed.

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Pardon me but I’m still confused — is the E3 now for sale something different than what is being discussed here?

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hi the driver PCB size is 17mm, and no glued, becase this model need not fixed the MCPCB.

You are always welcome!

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hi I am intending to choose a 3 modes UI, simple and easy to operate.
and thank all good advices.

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hi Hatman, now on selling is the new E3.
now the MODE is High Middle. and I only issued the Nichia 219CT version ,infact I also have Cree xpg2 version.

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jaxman wrote:
hi I am intending to choose a 3 modes UI, simple and easy to operate. and thank all good advices.

Good idea. A simple low/med/high setup works. Just like the E2L. Since this light lacks LVP when using a 14500, will the light be able to accommodate protected 14500 cells? Will you offer a Nichia 319AT led with the light as an option?

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x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light

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jaxman wrote:
hi the driver PCB size is 17mm, and no glued, becase this model need not fixed the MCPCB. You are always welcome!

Thanks for your answer, those are great news Smile I guess I will have my first Jaxman flashlight Big Smile
(my other order, so far, was of LEDs and optics!)

jaxman wrote:
hi I am intending to choose a 3 modes UI, simple and easy to operate. and thank all good advices.
jaxman wrote:
hi Hatman, now on selling is the new E3. now the MODE is High Middle. and I only issued the Nichia 219CT version ,infact I also have Cree xpg2 version.

If I understand correctly, reading these 2 answers, the driver will be changed, right?
Now it is “Middle > High” and you want to have a 3 mode (Low> Middle> High), correct?
Do you have any expected date for that change and further commercialization with the 3 modes?

Thanks again Wink

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Yes — if there is going to be a change, can you tell us when that version will be available?

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I ordered the version of the Jaxman E3 high CRI, warm Nichia 219c that was in stock as of this date.

I left a note that I wanted to make sure that the body is black and that, if possible, I wanted it to turn on at high, them mid, then, if there is one, low.

A few days later, Jaxman notified me that my order has shipped and that my E3 would turn on at high — exactly what I want — and the next step would be mid. No low.

Ordering was painless and I paid with PP — thank you! I prefer not to use my cc online.

Will there be a newer version? That has been unclear to me all along in this thread. If so, and if there is a worthy improvement, I won’t hesitate to order again.

These lights are well-priced and I want to support Jaxman’s work.

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jaxman wrote:
I want moon light-middle-high.

Perfect. Big Smile

Maybe throw in doubleclick-to-high. No strobe, please please please please please.

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As over-Discharge protection, AA/Ni MH we set a 0.9V stopping work protection,while Li Ion, how to do? so a good way to resolve it is adding protect board on 14500 battery.

The only way to do LVP for any cell is to sniff the voltage at startup to determine when to cut off.

I’m getting LFP cells (3.2V constant) instead of Li.

Cut off alkaleak/NiCd/NiMH at 0.9V as you have, by sniffing no more than 1.6V on startup.

If you sniff 3.xV, it can be Li or LFP, so you can set cut off at 3.0V or 2.9V or whatever you’re comfortable with.

Anything in 2.xV, immediately cut off. Too high for alkaleak/Ni, and way way too low for Li.

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MascaratumB wrote:
May I ask you: what will be the diameter of the driver? 15mm, 17mm?

Probably 14mm. 15mm is already wider than the cell, and you still need a wall+ledge to hold it.

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jaxman wrote:
hi the driver PCB size is 17mm, and no glued, becase this model need not fixed the MCPCB.

For an AA light? Wow, I’m impressed! Big Smile

Unless you have a TARDIS battery-tube. Evil

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My first Jaxman was the 365nm UV light. I was impressed by its quality and elegance.

So I did not hesitate and got a E2 219c CW. That was a great light too, with very useful modes for real daily use, and of course unparalleled cool white high color rendering. I took it to Acadia National Park for a week-long camping trip. With a diffuser from mtnelectronic it was the best ever tent light. My family had lots of fun playing Uno under it.

When this comes out, I will for sure get one too. Maybe two, one for each color temperature.

My personal preference for modes is low, medium, high with no mode memory. Low 2-5, medium 50-100, and high ~200 for AA, 500-600 for 14500.

One suggestion to you Jaxman is to provide a nice diffuser to go with it. It can turn the light to a very nice and useful lantern. Not the transparent ones but the opaque.

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Another suggestion to you Jaxman is to make the host of the new Jaxman E3 available for sale. For this, I believe I speak on behalf of a number of people here who are willing to purchase and try the E3 host for personal use.

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