what's the measured throw for Convoy S2+ XP-L Hi vs XM-L2?

I'm looking for some description for the Convoy S2+ (XP-L Hi, throwy) vs the older Convoy S2+ (XM-L2, floody) but can't seem to find them.

Would anyone have some estimated throw distance of the Convoy S2+ with XP-L Hi vs the S2+ using XM-L2?

(let's assume they are using the stock 7135x8 or 2.8A current, cool-white tints)

I've tried comparing the Convoy S2+ (XP-L Hi) vs Astrolux S1 (XP-L HD) vs Convoy S2+ (XM-L2) and I notice that the XP-L Hi is indeed throwier (more defined hotspot) than the Astrolux S1, but then the S1 is direct-driven so its throw distance seems to be pretty good too (at least before it steps down from Turbo). Would also like to know around how much is the "throw" of the S1 in Turbo (assume we use a fresly-charged high-drain battery like the INR18650-30Q)?

I recall reading some reviews of the S1 having something like 150-200 meters? But haven't seen approx measurements for the S2+ with XP-L Hi (few reviewers would likely measure the Convoy S2+ with XM-L2 since this is a floody light, but I'd just like to know around how much would its measured throw be?)

I too would like to know the throw of an s2+ with an xpl-hi

I have an S2+ XPL HI 3A, 8x7135. I measured its throw at around 15.4k cd, which is around 250 meters.

By comparison, Astrolux S1 is only about 170-180 meters, despite having more lumen output.

Different led, different reflector. The XPL HI LED and SMO reflector give the S2+ pretty decent throw ability while still having good amount of spill.

S2+ SMO Rreflector, XHPL HI V3 21kcd, C8 XML2 55kcd and XPL HI 110kcd, all of them with FET driver, I hope that helps.

The reflector on the S2+ isn’t well optimized for the HI emitter compared to other reflector its size, specifically from Fenix and eagletac, both produce a much defined hotspot and scored almost 50% higher lux reading while being very similar diameter and depth.

Pardon if I understand correctly, regarding the S2+ reflector — so what you mean is that the corresponding sized flashlights (similar size as Convoy S2) from Fenix and EagleTac can throw farther than the Convoy S2 while using the same XPL-Hi LED because they have a better/more efficient reflector?

Is it possible to buy such a reflector to “upgrade” the S2+ so it throws better?

Its easier to buy S2 host and smooth reflector - use a FET driver, XPL HI led. You will get much better results.

As other said, S2+ reflector isnt optimized for XPL HI emitter. I tried to sand a gasket as much as possible. It didnt really help.

Barely any better throw with the SMO reflector (if at all) and the beam is much less smooth.

Used this regulated MOSFET driver.

Cheers ^:)

I noticed years ago that a nitecore light I owned had a remarkably nice beam using a smo reflector ...and thought hmm some of the benefits of a more expensive light may not always be so easily noticed .

thanks for the C8 numbers on xpl hi and xml-2 .

i saw people in the BLF mini thread talking about the mini 's numbers vs the xml c8's lux numbers ..Sort of like comparing pears and pumkins . If comparing the xpl hi c8 and the blf mini the difference isn't that impressive ...Apples to apples

Anyone with numbers for the stock version (Convoy C8 XM-L2 and XP-L Hi, 7135x8)?

My stock C8 XP-L HI 3A 7135x8 measured 73.4k cd (542 meters).