Acebeam X70 - 40000 lm - 8*18650 - Active fan cooling

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The fans need to be water proof, rust proof, dust proof, etc… for 5 years (that’s Acebeam’s usual warranty period). Maybe in their testing the fans can’t last more than a couple years.

We saw where Olight designed the X9 fan to be in a removable cartridge for easy cleaning and replacement.

Maybe Acebeam is having issues with that? Who knows. Smile

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If you think about how many electronics are using fans I’m wondering if that’s really a problem.

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If you think about how many electronics are using fans I’m wondering if that’s really a problem.

Really? Name one electronic device using fans that also goes under water?

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That sounds ominous. I hope they are not giving up on the fan cooling like Olight did.

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Hopefully they get it all resolved! I have my wallet ready!

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I really hate how the more I see this thing the more I want it. 40,000 lumens with a 1km throw is just hilarious and absurd and I love it.

Edit: Still not in love with the price though. But that’s retail MSRP.

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seery wrote:
It didn’t happen all at once, but instead was a series of small changes and upgrades over the course of its production.

I asked that question and the answer was to simply ask the dealer if their supply is recent from Acebeam.

Interesting, I assume the first batch originally used Panasonic NCR-B, what cells are they using on the upgraded version?

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seery wrote:
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thijsco19 wrote:
If you think about how many electronics are using fans I’m wondering if that’s really a problem.
Really? Name one electronic device using fans that also goes under water?

Would this qualify?

Underwater Cooling Fan

“To prevent water damage, the tablet’s electronic components, including the processor, are contained within a sealed compartment that prevents water from entering. A separate compartment houses the cooling fan and heat sink, which floods with water when the tablet is submerged. Heat is transferred away from the components inside the sealed compartment to the compartment housing the fan and heat sink by a heat pipe, where it is then dissipated either by the fan or by water when the tablet is immersed.”

Fujitsu is at least several thousand times the size of Acebeam and Olight. They have a huge amount of resources and thousands of engineers to perform research and development for products that sell in the millions. In comparison, Acebeam probably has a handful of engineers that develop products that sell in the hundreds or maybe thousands. For a company the size of Fujitsu to develop this capability is an achievement worth noting but for a company like Acebeam to successfully develop this feature is remarkably impressive.

I just hope Acebeam don’t end up failing like Olight. Would be funny if a bargain brand like Astrolux end up as the only one that can make an actively cooled flashlight.

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I think most of the problem Acebeam is encountering have to do with making the fan water resistant, but they don’t have to if they used a separated motor and propeller assembly with a waterproof bearing in the shaft. Motor remains isolated and dry in the driver bay.

They’re probably limiting themselves by using regular computer fans where the motor and controller is inside the propeller, this makes the whole assembly exposed the elements.

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seery wrote:
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thijsco19 wrote:
If you think about how many electronics are using fans I’m wondering if that’s really a problem.
Really? Name one electronic device using fans that also goes under water?

Would this qualify?

Underwater Cooling Fan


Yes, that qualifies. One tablet that was released in 2013 and seemingly only sold in Asia. So not many devices at all.

I think that proves it’s definitely a problem.

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SKV89 wrote:
Would be funny if a bargain brand like Astrolux end up as the only one that can make an actively cooled flashlight.

What do mean? There are/were several active cooled lights on the market. More info on them here.

I think only 2 are still being sold.

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I suggest to any manufacturer with a fan-cooled light to just do away with the ‘Waterproof’ guarantee and start selling.

I myself do not want a ‘lighted, bright torpedo’ … Beer

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AgentWhiteBread wrote:
I really hate how the more I see this thing the more I want it. 40,000 lumens with a 1km throw is just hilarious and absurd and I love it.

Edit: Still not in love with the price though. But that’s retail MSRP.

Im still curious how good or bad the battery life on total runtime will be, it cant be very high if its gonna use 8×18650 batteries 3000mah.. Compared to whats out there they cant really do magic..

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as i know, it will update to 45000 lumens ~ 50000 lumens.

oh wow someone fears the astrolux mf03 a little it seems Wink

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Hopefully they resort back to the control ring! Lol

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mortuus wrote:
tandylu wrote:
as i know, it will update to 45000 lumens ~ 50000 lumens.

oh wow someone fears the astrolux mf03 a little it seems Wink


Two very different lights. They are not direct competition.

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JasonWW wrote:
mortuus wrote:
tandylu wrote:
as i know, it will update to 45000 lumens ~ 50000 lumens.

oh wow someone fears the astrolux mf03 a little it seems Wink


Two very different lights. They are not direct competition.

It’s not stopping Acebeam and Imalent pitting pop can lights against search lights in the lumens race.

I’ll be impressed with the first brand to hit 50k.

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This guy again. Facepalm

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JasonWW wrote:
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If you think about how many electronics are using fans I’m wondering if that’s really a problem.

Really? Name one electronic device using fans that also goes under water?

Sorry, didn’t see your comment.

I can’t think of something right, and I didn’t say anything about a device that’s being submerged.

There are really thousands different ‘devices’ that are using fans and pretty sure that there are more than you know that are ‘IP’ rated.

Really, a fan is nothing more than an electronic motor and those can easily work underwater. The only thing an electronic motor needs is a changing magnetic field and water doesn’t change that. All the other electronics can be even extern or coated to make it waterproof. The main problem is making a waterproof connection to the inside for the wires.

Yes a waterproof fan is probably expensive but not impossible.

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This guy again. Facepalm

The lumen monster hater, stick to threads about 200 lumen high CRI specials.

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under water fan cooled
But really I want me these Crown

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Glenn7 wrote:
under water fan cooled

Yes, Dmitriyrus mentioned that model in my thread on Actively Cooled lights, but I never put it in post #1. I guess I can do that now.

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KG_Tuning wrote:

The lumen monster hater, stick to threads about 200 lumen high CRI specials.

You’ve gotten your facts wrong.

Again.

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JasonWW wrote:
KG_Tuning wrote:

The lumen monster hater, stick to threads about 200 lumen high CRI specials.

You’ve gotten your facts wrong.

Again.

Facepalm

Thought my facts “look reasonable”

Lmfao

The X70 will read 25,000 lumens on the gutter pipe, you heard it here first.

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Why do you have to go around insulting everybody?

Facepalm

Ps. PVC based lumen tubes have a long tradition on BLF and CPF. Texas_Ace’s is probably the best version yet.

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Ugh, I give up. Your right, everybody else is wrong, etc…etc…

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JasonWW wrote:
Ugh, I give up. Your right, everybody else is wrong, etc…etc… Facepalm

You can’t reason with him. I believe in the tube thread it said he was given a partial refund which he accepted. From what I’ve read, TA was trying to work with him and even offered an addittional larger refund. He would rather bash TA’s name and reputation and continues to do so. I’ve found in life when a single person continues to have problems they blame on others, often they have to look at themselves first.

Most of what I’ve read from KG seems so against what I’m used to at BLF, we have a great community here and I hope that doesn’t go away.

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I’ve publicly offered him the partial refund back too.

All I care about is warning people not to fall for the scam.

It all became too personal and my nationality brought into it.

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KG_Tuning wrote:
I’ve publicly offered him the partial refund back too.

All I care about is warning people not to fall for the scam.

It all became too personal and my nationality brought into it.

The other three dozen customers who bought the TA lumen sphere didnt experience the same issues you have. I posted my measurements with the TA sphere and they were in line with ratings from reputable manufacturers whether they are low powered lights or high power lights, flooders and throwers. You were the only one with issues so we tried to help you figure out the reasons but you werent interested in working with us and instead just interested in proving your accusations are right without doing it scientifically.

We are about to recive the Maukka calibration lights so we can verify scientifically how accurate the current calibration of the TA spheres are.

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This is off topic, but it’s possible to get accurate measurements with any lumen tube as long as you have a reputable lux meter and
Correct multiplier. The differser sheets are a nice addition to the tube.

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