Group Buy: Wuben TO10R and TO46R (real 90+CRI triple XP-G3) - CLOSED!!

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This is the 10R body (with a 16340) looking in from the tail? So the tube I.D. is wider at the tail than it is closer the head?

10R body from the head. There’s no tailcap.

Same as in my pic. Tube I.D. is wider at the head.

Actually, there’s a “tailcap”, but it’s only for removing the magnet if needed.

Here’s two pics of the tail section of TO10R, as requested.

1. Tailcap removed. It was glued and required some force to open. Note the solid end of body tube!

2. Inside of the tube with tail spring in place

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One question for you _ _the_ _: did your TO46R had the head glued? I asked this to other members in the review threads, and apart from 1 or 2 members that received early samples, all others were glued and hard to open...

My sample wasn't glued. On the other hand, I haven't yet seen a glued light which wouldn't open with a pair of these:

    

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One question for you _ the _: did your TO46R had the head glued? I asked this to other members in the review threads, and apart from 1 or 2 members that received early samples, all others were glued and hard to open…



My sample wasn’t glued. On the other hand, I haven’t yet seen a glued light which wouldn’t open with a pair of these:


    

Thanks mate Wink
I guess I’ll have to spend some in a pair of those as well… Facepalm
But…I hope my “sample” isn’t glued as well Big Smile
Thank you!!

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I am interested in one of both, depending on price.

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I’ll add 1pc emitter board (it’s in addition to my existing order of 1pc TO46R and 1pc TO10R).

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There are still some TO46R left to reserve, but please note that we are approaching the 100pcs limit!

A few things to check/remember: 

  1. Check that you definitely are on the list: If you got the prices by PM and didn't reply to me you are probably NOT on the list!
  2. I might have missed some post / PM => Remember the abovementioned #1
  3. I'll use message/post timestamps to judge who will get the last ones..
  4. Please show some love to TO10R as well Smile It's a great little light with a magnet on the tail. I think I love it even more than my TO46R!

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There are still some TO46R left to reserve, but please note that we are approaching the 100pcs limit!


A few things to check/remember: 

  1. Check that you definitely are on the list: If you got the prices by PM and didn’t reply to me you are probably NOT on the list!
  2. I might have missed some post / PM => Remember the abovementioned #1
  3. I’ll use message/post timestamps to judge who will get the last ones..
  4. Please show some love to TO10R as well Smile It’s a great little light with a magnet on the tail. I think I love it even more than my TO46R!

I’m on the list and received PM with the price, so everything is OK for me! Thumbs Up

I have a “request” though, about the “spare” emitters (if there will be any for sale). Earlier on the thread I mentioned I would want 1.
IF – but only IF – there are other spare emitters, I would like to add another 1 (total 2 + the TO46R I subscribed for).

Thank you Wink

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So it appears you had to make a small hole through the tail?

The base of the spring appears to be about the same diameter of the tube’s I.D. at the bottom.

So It’s okay to drill through the tail as long as there is enough ledge remaining for the spring base contact area?

Is the tail cap (magnet holder) aluminum or plastic?

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beam0 wrote:

So it appears you had to make a small hole through the tail?

No. The small recess was already there.

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The base of the spring appears to be about the same diameter of the tube’s I.D. at the bottom.

Right.

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So It’s okay to drill through the tail as long as there is enough ledge remaining for the spring base contact area?

Right, as long as you secure the magnet somehow.

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Is the tail cap (magnet holder) aluminum or plastic?

Aluminum.

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This explains why the tint shift on the TO46R I measured was worse than on the TO10R and the output less than expected. The silicone dome was nowhere to be found…

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maukka wrote:
This explains why the tint shift on the TO46R I measured was worse than on the TO10R and the output less than expected. The silicone dome was nowhere to be found…

The hobby is getting serious: we are getting “decapitated” LEDs Big SmileEvil

In normal conditions I assume that the values would be pretty similar between the 2 lights, right ?

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The board, emitters and optics are identical so there should be no difference in the beam. Tint will always vary a bit but three emitters will probably even it out a bit. So I’d consider my TO10R tint measurements more representative of both lights.

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maukka wrote:
The board, emitters and optics are identical so there should be no difference in the beam. Tint will always vary a bit but three emitters will probably even it out a bit. So I’d consider my TO10R tint measurements more representative of both lights.

Thanks for the explanation and tests maukka!
The thing I found most “annoying” with these LEDs was that even without the optics and lenses, there was a huge green “shift” (?) !
Hopefully that will be corrected with these new emitters Wink

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Swapping the optics to frosted Carclo should help with the XP-G3 tint shift. The clear 10507 will always show it.

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maukka wrote:
Swapping the optics to frosted Carclo should help with the XP-G3 tint shift.

..or just applying some DC-fix..

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[However, I have to say that the tint shift bothers me only when hunting white walls from a short distance..]

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maukka wrote:
Swapping the optics to frosted Carclo should help with the XP-G3 tint shift.

..or just applying some DC-fix..


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[However, I have to say that the tint shift bothers me only when hunting white walls from a short distance..]

That’s what I’ve done too, and it improved the beam a lot.
It lost some meters in distance range (mostly outside) but specially indoor, it became much better!!

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Just swapped in three Samsung LH351D CRI90 4000K emitters to the TO46R. Data here.

edit: output is the same with the Samsungs, 1200 lumens.

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[However, I have to say that the tint shift bothers me only when hunting white walls from a short distance..]

I suppose the shift will not bother me that much now that the snow is soon gone Smile

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Are both of these lights DD in Turbo?

Why does the 10R have only half the lumen output of the 46R?

Is it a different driver? Or because the 16340 cannot provide enough current?

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I sure hope these lights don’t all have quality control issues with LEDs missing domes..

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I’m interested in one of the emitter boards as well.

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beam0 wrote:
Are both of these lights DD in Turbo?

Why does the 10R have only half the lumen output of the 46R?

Is it a different driver? Or because the 16340 cannot provide enough current?

Different driver. Not DD.

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I sure hope these lights don’t all have quality control issues with LEDs missing domes..

It’s not typical for Wuben. They have had very high quality, as far as I can tell.

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Good. Thumbs Up

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x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

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I’m interested in either, depending on price

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The purchase period starts now!

I’ll start sending the payment instructions by PM. Sending all messages will take some time, so please be patient.

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x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light

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Ordered a TO46R.

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