Group Buy: Wuben TO10R and TO46R (real 90+CRI triple XP-G3) - CLOSED!!

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Haven’t seen it mentioned, so I checked the standby drain which was 23µA (@4V) for both models.

= negligible. Good to hear!

In other news, there are still some problems sourcing enough real 90CRI CREE emitters. Would anyone object if we would do a last minute change to Nichias?

(NOT promising anything. Just asking..)

As long as they stay 5000k.

I wouldn’t mind Nichia 5000K at all!

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In other news, there are still some problems sourcing enough real 90CRI CREE emitters. Would anyone object if we would do a last minute change to Nichias?

(NOT promising anything. Just asking..)

For the flashlight I won’t mind, as long as it is around 5000K as well.

For the spare emitters, I won’t mind if they are Nichias with that colour temperature or from 4500K to 5000K High CRI!

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the wrote:
In other news, there are still some problems sourcing enough real 90CRI CREE emitters. Would anyone object if we would do a last minute change to Nichias?

(NOT promising anything. Just asking..)

Wouldn’t bother me any. I am patient.

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Interested TO46R, depending on $$. Thanks.

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maukka wrote:
Haven’t seen it mentioned, so I checked the standby drain which was 23µA (@4V) for both models.

= negligible. Good to hear!

In other news, there are still some problems sourcing enough real 90CRI CREE emitters. Would anyone object if we would do a last minute change to Nichias?

(NOT promising anything. Just asking..)

I actually didn’t buy it because I was afraid of the green tint. I wouldn’t mind nichias though even if it is not as bright.

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I’m absolutely fine with Nichia in NW.

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maukka wrote:
Haven’t seen it mentioned, so I checked the standby drain which was 23µA (@4V) for both models.

= negligible. Good to hear!

In other news, there are still some problems sourcing enough real 90CRI CREE emitters. Would anyone object if we would do a last minute change to Nichias?

(NOT promising anything. Just asking..)


I would love Nichias (NW) in my TO46R, if it is possible ! Thumbs Up

Let me know, if I should email Wuben …

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Let me know, if I should email Wuben …

Please let me handle the communication. We shouldn’t bother Wuben with tens of separate emails..

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I second that. If they are the 5000K versions. If not I’d stay the XP-G3. Hopefully the Nichia wont make a huge hit on output and turbo run times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

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x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light

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In other news, there are still some problems sourcing enough real 90CRI CREE emitters. Would anyone object if we would do a last minute change to Nichias?

(NOT promising anything. Just asking..)

219b 4500k would be nice

I am a beginner in everything.

 

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Nichia 4500-5000K should be fine (but hopefully not much green/yellow tints; pinkish tint would be fine)

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Hi the,

Will you be sending the Wubens with the Nichia to maukka?

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Lots of questions floating around.. Trying to answer them as soon as I can.

Anyways, I just tested TO10R with a Nichia and the output was about 10% less. Nothing that you could notice without a light meter, maybe noticeable in side-by-side comparison.

They will be driven with the same current, so runtimes should be roughly the same.

AND the tint would be much better. Smile

Here’s a comparison with 4000K 90+CRI Nichia. (NVSL219CT, D240, R9050, sm405 – the one closest to BBL!)
Incidentally, this is exactly the same emitter that Wuben would have in stock.
46R with CREE on 700lm mode on left, 10R with Nichia on highest mode on right (closest comparison I could make):

What do you think? Yes, with 4000K it’s slightly warmer, but also significantly less green. Very pleasant tint to my eyes.

(If you have any Rey’s light, you may have these same emitters. That’s where I got mine..)

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the wrote:
Lots of questions floating around.. Trying to answer them as soon as I can.

Anyways, I just tested TO10R with a Nichia and the output was about 10% less. Nothing that you could notice without a light meter, maybe noticeable in side-by-side comparison.

They will be driven with the same current, so runtimes should be roughly the same.

AND the tint would be much better. Smile

Here’s a comparison with 4000K 90+CRI Nichia. (NVSL219CT, D240, R9050, sm405D – the one closest to BBL!)
Incidentally, this is exactly the same emitter that Wuben would have in stock.
46R with CREE on 700lm mode on left, 10R with Nichia on highest mode on right (closest comparison I could make):

What do you think? Yes, with 4000K it’s slightly warmer, but also significantly less green. Very pleasant tint to my eyes.

(If you have any Rey’s light, you may have these same emitters. That’s where I got mine..)

That looks like a great deal to me. I’m totally for the Nichias! I’m sure many would agree.

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Close or below BBL is ideal for me. I like 4000k but just dont like it when too far above the bbl. The 219BT 4000k with rosy tint had no yellow and was perfect. I would love to buy both the 46R and 10R with this best looking 219c.

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I’m not too sure about a 5-step MacAdams 219c (sm405). The sm403 would have been okay.

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Despite I expected it to be more “white” and less “yellow”, I won’t mind if the light arrives with these emitters!
I thought they would be more like the tint on this AAA light Wink
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58704

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MascaratumB wrote:
Despite I expected it to be more “white” and less “yellow”, I won’t mind if the light arrives with these emitters! I thought they would be more like the tint on this AAA light Winkhttp://budgetlightforum.com/node/58704

It’s hard to find 219B emitters these days Sad .

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I’d just rather stick with the XP-G3. Id really only option for the Nichia 5000k 90cri. Not a fan of 4000k tint.

If neither the XP-G3 or 5000k Nichia 90cri is available I’d like to withdraw / refund on the order.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

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x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light

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I’d just rather stick with the XP-G3.

I’m afraid that won’t be possible. Sad

There seems to be a sudden, woldwide shortage of 5000K 90CRI XPG3s. Wuben’s supplier said they can’t deliver. Five other suppliers said the same. Lead time “many weeks”.

I checked also Mouser, as they had plenty of these in stock just a short while ago. Now they show 0pcs, 9 weeks lead time.

I wonder what happened?

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Damn. Ok I need to get my order refunded. How to we get this started?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light

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Damn. Ok I need to get my order refunded. How to we get this started?

Please wait a moment. We are still checking some possibilities.

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I guess I can wait a week and see what happens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light

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Why didn’t Wuben warn us that they had difficulty acquiring stocks of the xp-g3 before taking our payments?

I find it hard to believe that thousands of stocks would disappear overnight. I’m not blaming anyone and =the= has been very transparent about everything, I am just wondering why Wuben hadn’t thought things through.

I do hope that everything’s going to work out just fine. I hate to have to ask for a refund.

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I like nichia, so i agree with this change

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I’m ok with the change as long as the CRI truly is minimum of 90 and tint is not green

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I’m ok with the change as long as the CRI truly is minimum of 90 and tint is not green

I believe it’s highly unlikely to get the 219C appear much greener than the XP-G3 Smile

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I’m ok with the change as long as the CRI truly is minimum of 90 and tint is not green

I believe it’s highly unlikely to get the 219C appear much greener than the XP-G3 Smile

Sounds good to me, I’ve never owned any lights with the XP-G3. Thank you for letting me know

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4000k looks great! The spot changes noticeable with nichia?

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The suggested Nichia as evidenced in _the_'s example pic above is fine with me.

Great... Carnac the Magnificent tells me I just signed up for yet another expensive hobby.

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