Group Buy: Wuben TO10R and TO46R (real 90+CRI triple XP-G3) - CLOSED!!

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Status update: Feels like Friday the 13th for sure.. cry There are still major problems sourcing the emitters. Both Wuben and me are working hard to find a good source for 5000K emitters (preferably Nichia), but so far without success. cry Because of these problems, the payment deadline is extended to "one week after" we have solved the problems.

Please accept our sincere apologies for the situation and try to wait patiently!

On the other hand, threatening me/Wuben with PayPal or Credit card company disputes makes me feel (even more) sad and is totally unnecessary. Just send me a PM if you want to bail out. A full refund will be issued in a short time. [In the absolutely worst case I may have to buy all unclaimed lights, but I think I can live with it]

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1. Nichia 4500K
2. Nichia 4000K
3. Nichia 5000K / Cree 4500K
4. Cree 5000K (waiting for more than 10 weeks….)

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I apologize for my un-intended reply to all message.

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I apologize for my un-intended reply to all message.

You’re not the only one to do it Blushing

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If it ends up using Nichias, I’m definitely in to buy one.

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Status update: Feels like Friday the 13th for sure.. cry There are still major problems sourcing the emitters. Both Wuben and me are working hard to find a good source for 5000K emitters (preferably Nichia), but so far without success. cry Because of these problems, the payment deadline is extended to “one week after” we have solved the problems.


Please accept our sincere apologies for the situation and try to wait patiently!


On the other hand, threatening me/Wuben with PayPal or Credit card company disputes makes me feel (even more) sad and is totally unnecessary. Just send me a PM if you want to bail out. A full refund will be issued in a short time. [In the absolutely worst case I may have to buy all unclaimed lights, but I think I can live with it]

Thanks for keeping us updated about this Wink Let’s hope some “store” has it in stock Smile

REVIEWS: AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// SOFIRN: SF14 & SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// ACEBEAM: H20 /// BLITZWOLF: BlitzWolf BW-ET1 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// XTAR: PB2 Charger /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 & A5R / E300S / A8 /// KLARUS: XT1C 

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8  TIR Lenses: 1 / 2   Others: Biscotti 3 & 1*7135     Triple TIR & XP-G2

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New to BLF, new to group buys, new the flashlight scene altogether.

Reading though some new & not-so-new threads it seems that most GB's go sideways one way or another.

I suppose I'm too new at this to have any preconceived expectations, so the potential for disappointment is limited.

Supply chain issues occur within any manufacturing environment. Deadlines aren't met, cost overruns happen.

The international nature of this hobby adds complexities not present if everything was domestically sourced.

S#|t happens.

As long as I receive a quality item that doesn't produce a baby blue donut hole beam while at the same time not getting hot enough to fry an egg, I'll be satisfied. That's just my newbie perspective.

I'd just like to thank _the_ for the opportunity to acquire an item unavailable to most people, and at a bargain price. Not an easy task, being in the middle.

I'll likely be satisfied with whatever appears at my doorstep.

 

 

Great... Carnac the Magnificent tells me I just signed up for yet another expensive hobby.

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A question from a noob. What do you guys think the max driver current is on this light? It’s probably a constant current driver, 1300 lumen output from 3x XP-G3 emitters (correct me if I’m wrong) What do you think will happen if they are swapped for 3x XP-L HI or 3x XP-L2 emitters?

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The I’ve sent a PM as I wish to withdraw from the group buy. I have not heard from you since last communication regarding Monday as a resolution date.

Please get back to me ASAP.

Thank you.

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Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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Thanks The. I have been reimbursed.

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Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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Where are we at on the emitter choice?

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BLF Q8, Thrunite TC20, Convoy L6

 

 

 

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cellguy wrote:
Where are we at on the emitter choice?

Still working on it. The best choice would seem to be Nichia 5000K, but we need to confirm the availability and lead time.

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Any update on the emitter choice? Nichia 5000k sounds good if they can source them

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Any possible Wuben go with Samsung LH351D 4000K 90cri, That is emitter I will swap anyway Wink
I’ve way too many Nichia 219c lights, I don’t really need another one!

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charles lin wrote:
Any possible Wuben go with Samsung LH351D 4000K 90cri, That is emitter I will swap anyway Wink I’ve way too many Nichia 219c lights, I don’t really need another one!

I’d be fine with that also, looking forward to getting my hands on this light, whatever ends up in it hehe.

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Interested in TO46R depends on price

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Aviationtech wrote:
Any update on the emitter choice? Nichia 5000k sounds good if they can source them

It’s very complicated.. If we would have a GB of 1000 lights it would be possible to select exactly the emitter we want. With only 100 lights it’s harder to negotiate..

Anyways, we are very near to a solution, which is pretty good in my opinion. I hope I’ll get the confirmation and can tell the news on Monday.

Please be prepared for 4000K though.

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charles lin wrote:
Any possible Wuben go with Samsung LH351D 4000K 90cri, That is emitter I will swap anyway Wink I’ve way too many Nichia 219c lights, I don’t really need another one!

Not possible. Sorry!

I have to disagree: There’s no such thing as too many Nichia 219c lights! Wink

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I wasnt aware of any issues until now. (Im Pentosin on reddit).
I already have a nichia 219B light (Emisar D4) so im abit bummed out that the cree aint happening, but i guess i can live with a change as long as its 90+ cri. I also MUCH prefer 5000k over 4000k.
For the extra emitters, i NEED 5000k+(and 90+cri) because im going to use them for aquarium purposes, and anything below 5000k is just too yellow.

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I’d like to cancel please, but I’ve already paid. How do I get a refund?

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the][quote=Aviationtech wrote:

Please be prepared for 4000K though.

I can wait for confirmation, but 4k is a no go for me. This all should have been sorted out before payments started.

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BLF Q8, Thrunite TC20, Convoy L6

 

 

 

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Aviationtech wrote:
Any update on the emitter choice? Nichia 5000k sounds good if they can source them

It’s very complicated.. If we would have a GB of 1000 lights it would be possible to select exactly the emitter we want. With only 100 lights it’s harder to negotiate..

Anyways, we are very near to a solution, which is pretty good in my opinion. I hope I’ll get the confirmation and can tell the news on Monday.

Please be prepared for 4000K though.

Not the expected news…but let’s wait and see how the final scenario is Thumbs Up

REVIEWS: AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// SOFIRN: SF14 & SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// ACEBEAM: H20 /// BLITZWOLF: BlitzWolf BW-ET1 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// XTAR: PB2 Charger /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 & A5R / E300S / A8 /// KLARUS: XT1C 

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8  TIR Lenses: 1 / 2   Others: Biscotti 3 & 1*7135     Triple TIR & XP-G2

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cellguy wrote:
This all should have been sorted out before payments started.

I know. My fault. Crying
Please accept my sincere apologies. I trusted Wuben when they said they are ready to take payments. They trusted their supplier who promised to deliver. Things went south. Everyone suffers. Members are not happy, Wuben is not happy, I’m not happy for sure. Crying

Both me and Wuben have already apologized for the unfortunate situation. Refunds are being issued for whoever wants to bail out. Not much more we can do instantly.

On the bright side, lots of action has been happening during the last week to make things good again – despite the (sudden) global lack of 90+CRI emitters. 4 am wake-ups to discuss with Wuben and their suppliers have been fruitful and I hope we can reach a solution that most members will be happy with. Even if it would be 4000K.

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Flying Luminosity wrote:
I’d like to cancel please, but I’ve already paid. How do I get a refund?

PM sent. Please reply.

In general: PM me for refund.

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cellguy wrote:
This all should have been sorted out before payments started.

I know. My fault. Crying
Please accept my sincere apologies. I trusted Wuben when they said they are ready to take payments. They trusted their supplier who promised to deliver. Things went south. Everyone suffers. Members are not happy, Wuben is not happy, I’m not happy for sure. Crying

Both me and Wuben have already apologized for the unfortunate situation. Refunds are being issued for whoever wants to bail out. Not much more we can do instantly.

On the bright side, lots of action has been happening during the last week to make things good again – despite the (sudden) global lack of 90+CRI emitters. 4 am wake-ups to discuss with Wuben and their suppliers have been fruitful and I hope we can reach a solution that most members will be happy with. Even if it would be 4000K.

I do not feel like it is your fault at all. This one is on Wuben for not having its supply chain in order. Not a big deal either way, not like any of us are short on flashlights.

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I agree with cellguy plus I don’t mind waiting.

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I had to bail out as something told me 5000k wasn’t going to happen. That’s when I gave up and bought this http://www.zebralight.com/SC600Fd-Mk-IV-Plus-18650-XHP50-Floody-5000K-High-CRI-Flashlight_p_227.html

Sure it’s more money but it has the 5000k 93-95 high cri led I’m looking for. It rocks!

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Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d

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@ The :This is neither your fault nor Wubens.
Therefore I will not bail out but wait for a solution.

4000K Is good for me, depending on Led brand and characteristics.
Nichia 4000K would be great.

I appreciate the effort going into a GB like this, so I’ll hang on.

Cheers,
Nico

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I’m patient too…

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Yeah, im not in a hurry either. Smile
Also, i dont think anyone reasonable is blaming you the.

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