A Bunch of New Supfires, single 26650, side switch.

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A Bunch of New Supfires, single 26650, side switch.

Here are 3 new lights from Supfire.

I’ve seen the new L6-S with a plastic button and with a metal button. I also see a few smaller differences, such as lanyard holes and the number of grooves by the switch.

I’ve also seen a new C8-X. It’s like a C8 head (45mm), but 26650 body, side switch with usb in and out (power bank function). That’s a bit different. The C8-X does not have a rear switch. The X17, L6-S and L5-S do have tail switches.

The last picture is the X17.

Wow, so many choices for a host. The only problem is a lack of information on them.

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Here is a comparison of the new L6-S to the slightly older L5-S.

This picture came from a representative of the Supfire store on Aliexpress. She also told be they use the same size driver with the ears that stick out. This would be 26mm and uses a seperate switch with built in LEDs. Perfect for modding.

I still need to find more info on the C8-X and X17. If anyone has info, let me know.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Here is the driver on the X17.

Compare that with my L5-S below. It looks like the X17 uses the same driver size and shape.


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My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Nice find thanks… Do they all conduct through the threads? That would be a deal breaker for me since power can’t be mechanically locked out.

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Thanks. I’ve been eying some of these as hosts, too, wondering what the differences were.

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kramer5150 wrote:
Nice find thanks… Do they all conduct through the threads? That would be a deal breaker for me since power can’t be mechanically locked out.

I know my L5-S does and the picture of the X17 and L6-S does. I would guess the C8-X does as well. It’s not that big a deal, to me at least, because you have the mechanical rear switch to lock them out.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Here’s a pic of the C8-X. It also conducts through the threads.

The C8-X does not have a rear switch.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

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JasonWW wrote:
Beam0, this thread (and forum catagory) is about the 26650 size.
Oh, so it is, my bad Facepalm post deleted.

Supfire C8-S (18650) re-posted in a new thread.

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No worries mate. Smile

Lexel reported that his boost drivers are being delayed by all the flashlights people are sending him to mod. I guess that’s a good problem to have.

Still, I’m waiting patiently for those drivers. I think I’m gonna order the X17 and run it at 6v and 6A and put in an xhp50.2 that I have laying around. That should do maybe 4,000 lumen. If it’s not enough, I’ll buy a xhp70.2 and maybe get 5,000 lumen. All with sweet, sweet NarsilM v1.2 goodness. Lol

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

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JasonWW wrote:
No worries mate. Smile

Lexel reported that his boost drivers are being delayed by all the flashlights people are sending him to mod. I guess that’s a good problem to have.

Still, I’m waiting patiently for those drivers. I think I’m gonna order the and run it at 6v and 6A and put in an xhp50.2 that I have laying around. That should do maybe 4,000 lumen. If it’s not enough, I’ll buy a xhp70.2 and maybe get 5,000 lumen. All with sweet, sweet NarsilM v1.2 goodness. Lol

I really like the L5-S been looking at that one for months, but the X17 looks real nice too, although the L5’s appear to have nicer knurling.

Was it you that posted about your mods of the L5-S? I have find that to read it again.

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beam0 wrote:

Was it you that posted about your mods of the L5-S? I have find that to read it again.

Yes, I built one up with FET driver and xhp70. Look at my signiture in my post, there is a link to it.

I like the L5-S, but it’s pretty hard to take apart. Everything is very tight on it.

The 2 things I don’t like are having to use 2 batteries and having the output drop as voltage drops. So I’m thinking of building a new one which should correct both issues.

I was just about to buy another L5-S when I saw these new models. Now I’m‘m thinking about trying a new host. The knurling IS nice on it, but the 3 slots on the end cap are kinda annoying. Supfire should make it smooth with no notches. Anyway, that’s my only complaints about it which aren’t that big a deal.

Just keep in mind that the threaded LED shelf is very thin so it doesn’t absorb a lot of heat very well. I’m thinking about milling a copper chunk I could press into the threaded hole. That would really help with the heat, but it’s not an easy thing to fabricate.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

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I ordered an X17. I’ll report back once it arrives.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

 

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How much for X17?

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Nicolicous wrote:
How much for X17?

$20 plus $6 shipping from Amazon.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

 

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I recieved my X17. Here are some pics.

I assumed it would use a C8 reflector. It has the same diameter as the Convoy C8 reflector, but is about 5mm to 6mm deeper.

Here it is compared to the Supfire L5-S.

The X17 can accept a 26mm driver just like the L5-S. Plenty of room for a boost driver.

It has a threaded in “pill” like the L5-S which is very thin. I have a plan to beef it up. I can buy a true C8 reflector from MTN Electronics and use that extra 5mm to 6mm to make a thicker pill. Maybe machined from copper.

Here is a pic of the pill from my L5-S. It looks the same as what is in the X17.

A head size comparison. It’s got the same great side button used on the L5-S that has 2 leds built in.

I only had one real issue. The machining on the tail cap had some sharp edges that needed filing.

I used a basic hand file to smooth the edges.

I then used a black Sharpe pen to try and hide the bare aluminum. It worked pretty decently.

The driver retaining ring was pretty tight, but I got it loose. The bezel holding the glass lens in was actually very easy to loosen. The bezel on my L5-S was super tight and I damaged it trying to get it loose. The threaded pill is also tight. I haven’t broken it loose yet. I may need to make a tool to loosen it.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

 

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Thanks for the write up Jason. Beer

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Thanks for the write-up. I didn’t realize the L5s’s pill was so insubstantial. Is it flat on the backside?

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eas wrote:
Thanks for the write-up. I didn’t realize the L5s’s pill was so insubstantial. Is it flat on the backside?

Yes. It still seems to get the heat out, though. My L5-S is running an xhp70 at 7.8A and I haven’t burned it up yet. I usually only use turbo for short bursts under 10-20 seconds. I’ve run it at Turbo for about 60 seconds with fresh cells just to set the thermal stepdown and it survived.

I want to beef up the pill on this build. I was thinking of soldering a few copper pennies under the stock pill. Or I might be able to get a copper disc about 4 or 5 millimeters thick and a little bigger than the threads in the head and just tap it in until it bottoms out destroying the threads in the process, but giving really good thermal contact.

Maybe press a copper disc into the factory pill then thread it in tightly? The shorter reflector should give me the extra room I need.

I will figure something out. Thumbs Up

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube