Texas_Ace MT09R Modding thread, 20k+ lumens, 80CRI, can start fires? Yes please.

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Ok, I added some solder on the ground ring and that did the trick. I think my neighbors will get pissed if I take the light out right now to test it out… But wow this is like a totally different light now!

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Glad you got it working, I am not sure why some lights need the solder blob, I have only had 2 so far that needed it. All the others were fine.

These PCB’s are slightly thinner then the factory pcb (1.6mm vs 2.0mm), but you would not think that would cause a problem.

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Hey texas ace. Paypal sent for the mt07s

The driver is $20
Labor – $25
Spring bypass – $10
LED – $14. Xhp70.2 6500k
Shipping – $10

Total $79

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Success on the driver install!
What a joy to have that smooth ramping, starting from Moon, 2x turbo, etc. Love it!
However…
I’ve decided to go full monty and change out the emitters, LOL!

Texas Ace, sent you $70 for –
- 70.2 P2 highest bin 5700K emitters
- Installation
- Shipping

All info above is on Paypal order, BUT I forgot to include my BLF name on the order (doh!), but I’ve recently ordered from you. Sorry! Will ship light tomorrow of Sunday.

SOME QUESTIONS
Where can I find the PDF for Narsil 1.3 instructions?
Does the button light stay on all the time? (probably answered in the instructions)

THANKS!

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Ok, I will be on the look out for it and add the LED’s to the order.

The indicator LED can be turned off but by default it remains on.

Here is the cheat sheet for the GT, this driver is basically the same when it comes to the user interface, mostly back end changes since then.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AedRK8ZgsmBVSkaYz4TRmKrbfP0chHR7

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Ok, I got in another light yesterday This one from AviationTech. He just wanted me to upgrade the driver and bypass all the springs on his stock Warm white XHP70.2 emitters.

I took some before measurements with fresh off the charger cells and go a bit over 13k lumens.

After the driver swap and bypasses with the stock LED’s it is now doing a bit over 17k lumens. So basically it added a Q8 worth of light just by swapping the driver and bypassing the springs.

The tint on the “Warm white” (I would call it neutral myself) is quite good, ever so slightly cooler then the 4000k 80cri I have been using. It seems to be a bit lower cri but that could just be a trick of the tint. It is a fair amount lower output though as you can tell. You can gain almost another Q8 worth of output from swapping the LED’s.

Oh I have not posted about it I don’t think but at the 50% power level most lights are between 11k-14k lumens. So almost the same output at 50% on this new driver with spring bypasses as the stock light was at max. In this lights case it was making 12k at the top of the ramp.

That catches me up until I see what shows up in the mail today. Now I need to finish testing and building the XHP70.2 Giggles so I can list it for sale.

In an early test with 8 cells driving it I actually saw over 10k lumens from the LED for a few seconds Cool

I will place the LED order this evening most likely

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Ok, I just found a new XHP70.2 LED option that I KNOW some people will be interested in.

It is an N4 bin (1 below P2) 5000k 70cri emitter that should give that nice balance many have asked for between the 4000k and 5700k.

I had a few others like this from another source (It might have been KD, forgot who) and they looked good in the lights that got them.

If anyone wants them let me know soon. I will most likely order a set anyways since I am sure someone will want them at some point.

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Thank you for doing it TA. Fast turn around. I will be getting on saturaday.. do you recommend sony vtc5a for xhp70.2 and xhp35.

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Thank you for doing it TA. Fast turn around. I will be getting on saturaday.. do you recommend sony vtc5a for xhp70.2 and xhp35.

No problem! I try to treat customer orders as if they were my own and once I have paid for something I can not have it in my hands fast enough! lol.

The XHP70.2 needs high drain cells for sure, it could pull up to ~20A a cell at peak (although it seems to stabilize a bit lower then that on 30Q’s.)

For the xhp35 it doesn’t really matter, any quality cell should work, I use GA’s in my xhp35, 35E would also work. They only need to support around ~8-9A. I prefer 3500ma cells myself for the longer runtime and less stress on the LED’s.

Also, this goes for ALL MT09R’s. DO NOT over tighten the tailcap. There is no hard stop, you will only crush the cells. Just tighten until snug, that is it.

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Ok, I got in another light yesterday This one from AviationTech. He just wanted me to upgrade the driver and bypass all the springs on his stock Warm white XHP70.2 emitters.

I took some before measurements with fresh off the charger cells and go a bit over 13k lumens.

After the driver swap and bypasses with the stock LED’s it is now doing a bit over 17k lumens. So basically it added a Q8 worth of light just by swapping the driver and bypassing the springs.

The tint on the “Warm white” (I would call it neutral myself) is quite good, ever so slightly cooler then the 4000k 80cri I have been using. It seems to be a bit lower cri but that could just be a trick of the tint. It is a fair amount lower output though as you can tell. You can gain almost another Q8 worth of output from swapping the LED’s.

Oh I have not posted about it I don’t think but at the 50% power level most lights are between 11k-14k lumens. So almost the same output at 50% on this new driver with spring bypasses as the stock light was at max. In this lights case it was making 12k at the top of the ramp.

That catches me up until I see what shows up in the mail today. Now I need to finish testing and building the XHP70.2 Giggles so I can list it for sale.

In an early test with 8 cells driving it I actually saw over 10k lumens from the LED for a few seconds Cool

I will place the LED order this evening most likely

Well I had his light ready to ship when he told me he wanted to go ahead and swap the LED’s for the 4000k 80CRI.

So I swapped the LED’s and it is now doing a bit over 21k lumens with the same cells I did the prior 2 tests with. Figure around 22k on full cells. Or a Q8 added on top of what it was doing already. Cool

I also got it back out before the mailman came so it is still going out today. Wink

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Ok, I got in another light yesterday This one from AviationTech. He just wanted me to upgrade the driver and bypass all the springs on his stock Warm white XHP70.2 emitters.

I took some before measurements with fresh off the charger cells and go a bit over 13k lumens.

After the driver swap and bypasses with the stock LED’s it is now doing a bit over 17k lumens. So basically it added a Q8 worth of light just by swapping the driver and bypassing the springs.

The tint on the “Warm white” (I would call it neutral myself) is quite good, ever so slightly cooler then the 4000k 80cri I have been using. It seems to be a bit lower cri but that could just be a trick of the tint. It is a fair amount lower output though as you can tell. You can gain almost another Q8 worth of output from swapping the LED’s.

Oh I have not posted about it I don’t think but at the 50% power level most lights are between 11k-14k lumens. So almost the same output at 50% on this new driver with spring bypasses as the stock light was at max. In this lights case it was making 12k at the top of the ramp.

That catches me up until I see what shows up in the mail today. Now I need to finish testing and building the XHP70.2 Giggles so I can list it for sale.

In an early test with 8 cells driving it I actually saw over 10k lumens from the LED for a few seconds Cool

I will place the LED order this evening most likely

Well I had his light ready to ship when he told me he wanted to go ahead and swap the LED’s for the 4000k 80CRI.

So I swapped the LED’s and it is now doing a bit over 21k lumens with the same cells I did the prior 2 tests with. Figure around 22k on full cells. Or a Q8 added on top of what it was doing already. Cool

I also got it back out before the mailman came so it is still going out today. Wink

Wow TA, that’s awesome. You’re a wizard. Thanks for all your hard work and effort with this entire project. So the light went from original 13k to 21k, that’s an amazing improvement. I probably won’t even recognize the light. Its like getting a brand new light. Thanks again. Can’t wait to try it

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Yeah, at the top of the ramp with 50% duty it was doing basically the same as the old driver did on turbo. So you will have a basically back to back comparison between the old driver and the new one.

Although once lights get that bright all you can really tell is that it hurts a lot more to look at lol.

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I will be shipping all of the new orders to you together. I have not yet checked DHL but I'm guessing it will be the 18th or the 19th when they arrive. And I will begin shipping them as soon as they arrive.

 

 

Guys I still have a decent amount of the 30 units I ordered. Right now is the time to get them at a price far below retail. Almost 40 percent below retail.

Any left I will be paying for TA drivers myself and installing them and the price then will go back to retail.

 

So right now it's almost 40 percent off and I can ship the to TA in bulk when they arrive which will speed things up a lot on the turn around time and then shipped ready to go to you.

 

Dale is not happy at all with the price I am letting the go for buy I will take the heat for that. Our agreement for the dealership was following their set retail. This is usually referred to in the retail business as MOP pricing. 

This is also the last of the blue and green colors. Those will not be produced again.

 

Also TA has agreed to international shipping as long as the buyer pays the shipping so these are not restricted to just rhd U.S. and Canada.

 

Thanks everyone... You are really going to love this light.

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What color is the blue one? I tried looking for pictures and I see a really dark blue and there is also a bright blue almost purple.

Is the gold one available? I like the metallic gold one.

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What color is the blue one? I tried looking for pictures and I see a really dark blue and there is also a bright blue almost purple.

Is the gold one available? I like the metallic gold one.


These were special colors for the group buy and are no longer available. (I think Terry White might have a few blue and green coming)

The blue is a dark navy with a little color shift looking effect.

The gold/tan is actually a brown, khaki color.

Do you mean the white color? It looks a bit silver. You would have to show us which color you mean.

There are pictures on Terry’s website. https://hesaidshesaidsales.com

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blueb8llz wrote:
What color is the blue one? I tried looking for pictures and I see a really dark blue and there is also a bright blue almost purple. Is the gold one available? I like the metallic gold one.
These were special colors for the group buy and are no longer available. (I think Terry White might have a few blue and green coming) The blue is a dark navy with a little color shift looking effect. The gold/tan is actually a brown, khaki color. Do you mean the white color? It looks a bit silver. You would have to show us which color you mean. There are pictures on Terry's website. https://hesaidshesaidsales.com[/quote]

 

 

The blue and green are what I ordered and I ordered all that were left of each. 15 units of each. 

 

They are both really nice colors. The blue is really nice. The pictures are not even close to how good it looks when it is in front of you.

 

 

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What color is the blue one? I tried looking for pictures and I see a really dark blue and there is also a bright blue almost purple. Is the gold one available? I like the metallic gold one.

 

The gold they actually call sandstone and those are sold out. The darker blue (as far as I know) and the green are the units coming. Even the darker navy blue looks a ton better than I  any of those pictures.

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I just called and asked Dale and the blue is the darker navy blue. Both really are far better looking than those pictures.

 

I can't even decide which I want to keep for myself. I like the blue a lot  it that green I've just never seen on a light or really anything else lol.

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I have the blue one…dark matte blue…it’s beautiful! Looks elegant and rock solid. Definitely a show case light…and you can’t go wrong with TA’s driver! He mixes up some magic and shoves it in there…Tesla would be proud!

I have a green Emisar D4 and D1…almost bought their big daddy, but the blue one looks like a dark blue business suit…ha!

When I'm spending money foolishly, I like to do it wisely...

I have all the flashlights I need, but not as many as I want...

 

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Man Without Shadow wrote:
I have the blue one...dark matte blue...it's beautiful! Looks elegant and rock solid. Definitely a show case light...and you can't go wrong with TA's driver! He mixes up some magic and shoves it in there...Tesla would be proud! I have a green Emisar D4 and D1...almost bought their big daddy, but the blue one looks like a dark blue business suit...ha!

 

I just had someone place an order for a blue one lol and the funny thing is we are flying out to meet and help move our partners here but where we are going is very close to where that person lives.

 

Of course I can't post that. But I will be shipping from that location.

 

Be sure to send me a PM or email me at hesaidshesaidsales@charter.net and let me know if you want it shipped to TA. 

 

Many are just ordering the driver from TA and want their light shipped directly to them.

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Ok, I finally managed to catch up on the lights and until the mailman shows up didn’t have any to work on today so decided to take care of another issue I had.

Measuring all these lights actually started to melt the diffuser I use for my sphere, luckily not enough to cause the readings to change. So I am looking for a better way to make this sphere and I think I might of found a way to make one and even produce them if it was worth my time.

I already have a new sphere reading well within 2-3% of my old sphere from my 150 lumen “standard” test light up to a few quick tests with 6k+ lumen lights. I also much much prefer this new design as well. It should give better readings.

So my question is if this idea works, would anyone be interested in a calibrated PVC sphere based on my own sphere?

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Interested

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Interested

I am curious, how much would you be willing to spend for a sphere based off mine?

It would include the basic lux meter, 3D printed centering rings, laser cut diffusers and all the work to put it together and calibrate it.

It also would read the lumen directly on the meter, no math needed to convert the readings to lumens.

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Im definitely interested. I think you should throw in a rough price so we can get an idea and we can tell you whether it is within our budget.

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how many flashlights should a flashaholic have before considering a sphere Silly

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Ok, after some more testing and tweaking I think I now have my new sphere setup the same as my existing sphere. I pulled out my old lux meter (both are HS1010A and read within a few lux of each other) and setup both spheres side by side and they are within 1-3% with all the test readings I took. Plenty close enough since I only figure my sphere to be accurate to within 5-10% anyways.

I much prefer this new method using proper diffusers instead of foam as well. There is zero chance that a thrower will be better results now.

This diffuser also works well for flashlights as well, turns them into a pure flooder but a great beam. Think I will cut some out to fit over a few of the lights I use like this.

I officially put my old sphere in mothballs in order to make sure I always have a known good standard for calibrating other spheres and am switching over to the new sphere for the future.

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Im definitely interested. I think you should throw in a rough price so we can get an idea and we can tell you whether it is within our budget.

Yeah, I needed to do some more math and figure out all of the costs and how much time is involved.

It is looking like for it to be worth my time it will be around $100, although I will need to see exactly what the 3D printed centering rings work out to cost wise along with the laser cutting before I know for sure.

That would include everything you need,

Lux meter just like mine
All the PVC fittings so it will free stand on the desk
Laser cut diffusers to fit inside the PVC and diffuse the beam so that beam pattern is not a factor in readings
3D printed centering rings in several common sizes so you can get good readings from various lights
Labor to assemble, test and calibrate everything.
Proven readings that are comparable to my numbers

I might start a thread to see the interest soon, if I can get 10-20 people interested I think I will make a batch.

I wish that every Flashlight company in china would get one so we could get rid of these fake lumens.

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how many flashlights should a flashaholic have before considering a sphere Silly

LOL, it has more to do with the type of person I suppose. One of the very first things I wanted when I got into lights was a sphere so I could see what effects all my mods and changes had. That was the only way to learn.

Most people do not need a sphere, in fact it is liable to bring more disappointment then happiness. Most lights give less lumens on the sphere then they advertise, it is rare for it to be the other way around.

Also in some cases like the latest flip chip LED’s, they “break in” and generally drop ~10-15% output during that break in. Something you would never even know without a sphere. So it is a case of sometimes it is better not knowing.

That said I still prefer to know the truth. Silly

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Pulled down that huge post, but I have a lot of interest in your work on a lot of lights TA, so will PM when the MT09R’s are here and see if you have any interest in about another 10 lights or so with various modding requests, got cash so not a problem, just need perfection like what you provide, sorry about my getting carried away with that post, nothing unusual from me frankly.

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Pulled down that huge post, but I have a lot of interest in your work on a lot of lights TA, so will PM when the MT09R’s are here and see if you have any interest in about another 10 lights or so with various modding requests, got cash so not a problem, just need perfection like what you provide, sorry about my getting carried away with that post, nothing unusual from me frankly.

lol, no problem at all.

Sure send me a PM when you are ready and we can talk. Sadly I do not have a lathe so I can not do any machine work, I wish I did though. Nor am I setup for any kind of coatings at the moment, used to do some powder coating but that setup is long gone now.

Far as other stuff though, sure, As long as the light can be opened (aka, I don’t like messing with glued lights, it is almost impossible to open them without damage) I am willing to look at it.

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Pulled down that huge post, but I have a lot of interest in your work on a lot of lights TA, so will PM when the MT09R’s are here and see if you have any interest in about another 10 lights or so with various modding requests, got cash so not a problem, just need perfection like what you provide, sorry about my getting carried away with that post, nothing unusual from me frankly.

lol, no problem at all.

Sure send me a PM when you are ready and we can talk. Sadly I do not have a lathe so I can not do any machine work, I wish I did though. Nor am I setup for any kind of coatings at the moment, used to do some powder coating but that setup is long gone now.

Far as other stuff though, sure, As long as the light can be opened (aka, I don’t like messing with glued lights, it is almost impossible to open them without damage) I am willing to look at it.


Sounds good, will be in touch very soon, by the way would you happen to have any XHP35-H0-E23C perhaps times 3 or more..?
My goal is to get lights modded past my skill level to deal with nasty weather, clouds, fog etc. and still have some throw. Every light I own has been opened eventually, I even got those GT’s opened finally and they weren’t even glued but wow they must have a beast of a human assembling those lights at Lumintop,
Will talk shortly I hope, I really want to get these projects done right, tired of messing them up and redoing them over and over.
Thanks TA

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