Texas_Ace MT09R Modding thread, 20k+ lumens, 80CRI, can start fires? Yes please.

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So light is $120
modding it from you is $20
labor $15
Shipping about $10 (for US)
I’m looking at about $165~170 for 22k lumens correct?
Thanks for your fast reply!

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Just to get technical, do you set it to 50% the amp draw (or what is equivalent to that) or do you set it to 50% of the ramping numbers? I think NarsilM uses 150 steps? Something like that.

I set it to approx 50% duty PWM. So 255 is 100%, and I generally set the ramp to around ~125-130pwm.


Okay.

I guess I confuse people when I say steps. The highest step is about #150 and that is equal to the software number 255 which is full power.

So around ~125-130pwm is about the 75th to 80th step if I remember correctly.

I am trying my best to not get involved into flashing my own drivers or assembling my own drivers. That’s too extreme. Lol

125-130 pwm usually happens to be around the 130th step due to the way the human eye works. I only cut off a very small part of the ramp when I do this.

So small it is unlikely you would actually stop in that part of the ramp as each step must be larger and larger to make the ramp appear smooth to the human eye.

A linear ramp is what the MT09 came with stock and everyone can attest to how horrible that was.


Okay, that makes more sense.

I probably run my L6 on about the 130 step as well. Just a little below max.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Not to tell anyone how to spend their hard earned money…but being skeptical and thrifty person…I had a hard time putting another $100 into this light. After learning about Texas Ace, his abilities, his knowledge, his hardware and seeing the results of my $100 mod (on top of the $125 I already paid), I cannot recommend his services enough. What ever extra money you send his way will be a bargain for what you get back in skill and hardware. Not to mention the frustration you can eliminate by having a professional mod and test your light.

I have limited skills, and hate goofing stuff up…so paying for the services WAS the bargain versus me fumbling around, staring at stuff and hoping I didn’t ruin something.

No brainer for me.

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yuhsin91123 wrote:
So light is $120 modding it from you is $20 labor $15 Shipping about $10 (for US) I’m looking at about $165~170 for 22k lumens correct? Thanks for your fast reply!

That is just for a driver install with the stock LED’s. The stock LED’s have been doing around ~16-19k lumens.

For the full 20k+ Lumens the LED’s need to be replaced with better ones and the springs also need to be bypassed.

The LED selection is in the OP. The P2 or 80cri 4000l LED’s should put you in the 21-23k lumen range. One of the biggest reasons to do this mod is to be able to pick exactly what LED tint you want in your light instead of some random bargain bin LED’s.

The complete “package” deal for a 20k+ lumen light needs everything (except the dedome, that is optional)

Driver – $20
LED’s – $35
Labor for reflow, driver install and testing – $25
Spring bypasses – $10
Shipping – $12

Total for my modding – $102 without the dedome

The MT09R purchase is separate from that.

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JasonWW wrote:
Okay, that makes more sense.

I probably run my L6 on about the 130 step as well. Just a little below max.

Exactly, that is the same thing I used to do, ramp up to max and then step down till I could just tell it was getting dimmer, this usually ended up around 50% power.

By limiting the ramp to 50% it saves me a lot of time having to ramp up and then back down. I just find I never use modes between 50% and max the vast majority of the time.

The reduced stress on the cells, driver, LED’s and heat output sealed the deal on the production version getting the 50% ramp.

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Is this "Dr.Meter LX1330B":https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Meter-LX1330B-Digital-Illuminance-Light/dp/B00... lux meter the best bang for the buck? I'm planning to get this one to test throw. What do you guys think?

 

I think it is. It's accuracy is as good or better than meters costing way more money. I've got 4 different meters and out of all of them it is easy the most accurate and it costs one quarter of the price of one of my meters.

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Not to tell anyone how to spend their hard earned money...but being skeptical and thrifty person...I had a hard time putting another $100 into this light. After learning about Texas Ace, his abilities, his knowledge, his hardware and seeing the results of my $100 mod (on top of the $125 I already paid), I cannot recommend his services enough. What ever extra money you send his way will be a bargain for what you get back in skill and hardware. Not to mention the frustration you can eliminate by having a professional mod and test your light. I have limited skills, and hate goofing stuff up...so paying for the services WAS the bargain versus me fumbling around, staring at stuff and hoping I didn't ruin something. No brainer for me.

 

Yep... I get all sorts of information from him...

 

Even if it is just the driver the difference is huge..

 

Like I've told many that email me. My personal light I've only swapped the driver and with stock NW emitters and the difference is a major difference. 

 

 

 

 

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Would using TA driver on the stock NW LEDs on the MT09R melt the springs in the long run?

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Would using TA driver on the stock NW LEDs on the MT09R melt the springs in the long run?

 

The TA driver for the 70.2 must have a main driver spring bypass the spring just can't take the amperage.  The other springs in the battery tube will be fine.. My personal MT09R 70.2 has stock NW emitters and the output is just a touch over 20k lumen. I got a video floating somewhere around here showing that after installing TA's new driver my light will easily set my news paper on fire in about 15 seconds lol. So it is a ton of power. But the stock NW emitter are not too bad at all and, you can always upgrade those anytime you may want to.

The stock neutral white emitter are a much better quality than the cool white. Dale and I were talking last week and right now the NW 70.2 emitters are his most expensive emitters. They are still not top of the line and there are much better bin and quality 70.2 emitters. You would think the cool white emitters would out perform the neutral white both being stock but no so. Even using the old stock driver the NW emitters were in most cases 1000 lumen brighter than the CW.

 

Just a side note I have actually bypassed every spring and by passing the springs in the battery tube did not cause any noticeable difference.

 

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Just FYI everyone... Only the newly designed TA driver for the MT09R series of lights has been approved for use in these lights. Haikelite has contracted Texas Ace to design and build the driver for the MT09R series and is still under contract by the company.

Haikelite has agree to allow emitter changes completed by Texas Ace as he is still under contract by the company so as long as you request emitter changes that are of the same type (Example 70.2 emitter for the 70.2 version and a 35 High emitter for the 35 High version manufactured by Cree of course) then your warranty will still be honored by the company.

 

Naturally of course once anyone purchases something it belongs to them and they may do with it as they choose however, as the North American representative for Haikelite I must advise you that any modifications other than stated above or any driver changes that are not the driver that has been approved by Haikelite will void your warranty. The only driver approved by Haikelite is the Texas Ace driver for both the 70.2 and 35 High version.

 

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Would using TA driver on the stock NW LEDs on the MT09R melt the springs in the long run?

 

 

 

No...  The driver main spring has to be bypassed unless it is decided to go to a dual spring.

 

The springs in the battery tube are not under nearly the current that the driver spring .

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I would be interested in the sphere at that price

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Thanks for the explanation on the 50% ramp, a friend of mine here had PM’d me about the lights he just got built by TA and he was raving big time and as he said in his most recent post he’s frugal so if he’s beyond thrilled like that then I’m now thrilled as well, so lets get with the shipping MR. T, ha ha, actually I’m still thinking on this build so haven’t payed up yet for the modding so no rush for me.
He also explained that 50% ramp to me in dumb mode, he said it’s like a muggle mode, OH, now I got it.. ha ha, actually I did understand all the explanations.
I have two BLF GT’s and I can see where a 50% ramp would not be a bad idea.
So another dumb question, if this is Narsil version 1.2 or whatever it is now that would mean their is also the ability to switch from ramping to mode stepping, I’m really not sure the technical name for the other UI but I do like to switch from ramping to regular type step modes, it’s so easy to change from one UI to the other I really do love this UI.
Edit: If you set the ramping to 50% does that affect mode stepping, please don’t say that has been disabled or other, I’m seeing switching to mode step and only having low, med, med 2 or something.
Also what is the diam. of the mcpcb for this MT09, same as the MT07S..? And what mcpcb are you using for the GT XHP70.2 mod, SD75, Maxtoch..? 32mm.?

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That price sounds very reasonable for a calibrated sphere from the great TA himself. I would be definitely buy it.

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I think he is wondering that if TA sets the the max ramp to 50% vs 100% if that would affect the mode set maximums in any way…I assume not…

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Man Without Shadow wrote:
I think he is wondering that if TA sets the the max ramp to 50% vs 100% if that would affect the mode set maximums in any way…I assume not…

Let’s wait for TA to answer.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

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Do you guys think i should swap my blf gt xhp 35 emitter???? Let me know your guys opinion. Thanks

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I would be interested in the sphere at that price

Good to know, watch for an interest thread, tomorrow most likely. I think I will do a “group buy” on them, the results seem to be repeatable

I am guessing I will make 10-20 of them.

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Thanks for the explanation on the 50% ramp, a friend of mine here had PM’d me about the lights he just got built by TA and he was raving big time and as he said in his most recent post he’s frugal so if he’s beyond thrilled like that then I’m now thrilled as well, so lets get with the shipping MR. T, ha ha, actually I’m still thinking on this build so haven’t payed up yet for the modding so no rush for me. He also explained that 50% ramp to me in dumb mode, he said it’s like a muggle mode, OH, now I got it.. ha ha, actually I did understand all the explanations. I have two BLF GT’s and I can see where a 50% ramp would not be a bad idea. So another dumb question, if this is Narsil version 1.2 or whatever it is now that would mean their is also the ability to switch from ramping to mode stepping, I’m really not sure the technical name for the other UI but I do like to switch from ramping to regular type step modes, it’s so easy to change from one UI to the other I really do love this UI. Edit: If you set the ramping to 50% does that affect mode stepping, please don’t say that has been disabled or other, I’m seeing switching to mode step and only having low, med, med 2 or something. Also what is the diam. of the mcpcb for this MT09, same as the MT07S..? And what mcpcb are you using for the GT XHP70.2 mod, SD75, Maxtoch..? 32mm.?

Glad to hear my work is getting good reviews. I try to treat every light as if it were my own and give the service I would want if I was the buyer.

I am using Narsil 1.3 in these drivers. yes, it includes 12 mode groups as well as the ramping mode.

The mode groups are the same regardless of the ramp being 50% or 100%.

The MT09 and MT03 use the same mcpcb, I am not sure ont he size, maybe 50mm? I have not seen an MT07 personally yet so I can’t comment on it.

The GT does not have a drop in mcpcb for the xhp70 at this point, I am using some prototype mcpcb’s in the lights I am selling. If the results are good I hope to convince lumintop to make them and sell them but they are hesitant to sell individual parts it seems. There is a sinkpad that can work with some modifications but it is aluminum instead of copper.

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That price sounds very reasonable for a calibrated sphere from the great TA himself. I would be definitely buy it.

Watch for the intrest thread!

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Man Without Shadow wrote:
I think he is wondering that if TA sets the the max ramp to 50% vs 100% if that would affect the mode set maximums in any way…I assume not…

Nope, the mode sets are completely separate in the firmware and will not be effected.

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Do you guys think i should swap my blf gt xhp 35 emitter???? Let me know your guys opinion. Thanks

That is completely up to you. The stock LED is a D4 bin, so you could only move up 1 bin to an E2 in the XHP35 HI, so there is not a lot of output to be gained. About 7% based on the bin alone.

It is more about tint, if you want a different tint, then another LED is the way to do that.

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Hey guys just a little request. I do not know the details but Dale is currently at the hospital with his daughter I think she is 3. What every religion you may practice. Maybe keep them in your prayers...

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Hey guys just a little request. I do not know the details but Dale is currently at the hospital with his daughter I think she is 3. What every religion you may practice. Maybe keep them in your prayers…

Praying for the dale’s family.. hope everything goes well and nothing major.

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Thanks TA for the explanation on the modes, had been thinking about that 50% settings and started wondering.
It sounds like my light might not ship to you until Thursday or so, unless I misunderstood the post by Terry,

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Yeah, any lights from Terry will not be shipping to me until the end of the week at the earliest, I would guess next Monday as a more realistic time frame since he does not even have a confirmation on the exact day they will be delivered yet.

Feel free to send me a PM about any other mods you want done and we can talk about those as well.

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Texas_Ace wrote:

I am using Narsil 1.3 in these drivers. yes, it includes 12 mode groups as well as the ramping mode.

The mode groups are the same regardless of the ramp being 50% or 100%.


Just to verify, does that mean modes 1-6 are going to function the same as modes 7-12?

It would be pretty neat if modes 1-6 had the 100% setting set to the same limit as the upper ramp limit (say 50%). Then it would function similar to the GT. Modes 1-6 would be more muggle friendly.

I don’t know, that might require a lot of code tweaking that you don’t have time for.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos for BLF Q8, GT, GT Mini and ROT66

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I agree with TA. Terry is getting 30 lights probably in like 2-3 weeks.

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Hey guys just a quick note... If you can see an item on my website that will allow to purchase it then it is in stock.

 

Please remember I have 2 warehouses one on the east coast and one on the west coast. The green and blue MT09R's that I got the last of were shipped to my warehouse in Arizona and my wife and I are flying out there on Tuesday to begin shipping the orders. Most are going to TA but there are a few that are shipping straight to the customer. Some people just wanted to order the driver from TA and install it themselves.

 

But if you see it on my website and it will allow you to place an order then the item is in stock. If it is out of stock in will not allow you to place an order.

 

Current stock as of right now is 

10 Blue

11 Green

 

 

Thanks very much.

 

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Don’t have much of a religion to pray to but I really hope it’s not serious.

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