Possible host for Flood + Throw? (MF03 style)

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Possible host for Flood + Throw? (MF03 style)

Came across this dive light today and it reminded me of the concept of the upcoming Astrolux MF03

So I had the thought, could it be modded to work that way? (for flood + throw) by installing a dedomed / HI emitter in the center reflector,
and maybe XP-L’s or XM-L2’s around it (looks like lettuce bright LED’s currently) I’m curious how the LED’s are mounted in this.

It has a magnetic selector ring switch with: OFF-LOW-HIGH-STROBE ….so maybe it could be rewired for OFF-FLOOD-THROW-BOTH ?

It has 6× 18650 configuration…
I’m not sure but it appears each pair is in series, then the 3 pairs are paralleled with each other, for 8.4v total?
So I suppose it’s running some sort of buck driver.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tactical-Waterproof-Diving-10000lm-9x-CR...
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…………………………..Diving Flashlight 9000Lm…………………………………………………………Astrolux MF03…………………………………
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  • Aluminum smooth reflector
  • Size:73mm(D) x 207mm(L) x 52mm

Maybe it won’t have Ur-anus-fire branding on it! Silly

It’s also listed under SkyRay and VastFire branding:

SkyRay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SKYRAY-18000Lm-9x-CREE-XM-L2-LED-Underwater-100...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/18000-Lumens-9-L2-LED-Diving-flashlight-...

VastFire:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/25000Lm-9x-XM-L2-LED-Underwater-200m-Scuba-Divi...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/18000Lm-9X-XM-L2-LED-Underwater-100m-Scu...

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Wow this does look very good. But with only 6 batteries, output will be limited, if you would be swapping in xhp70.2 emitters if that would even fit.

Werent MF03 was supposed to be using 70.2 emitters.

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SKV89 wrote:
Wow this does look very good.
Yes with the larger center reflector it seemed to be set apart from the usual multi-emitter budget lights, and more like the MF03 concept.
But I’m sure it would be quite an extensive (but fun) mod to pull it off.

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SKV89 wrote:
Werent MF03 was supposed to be using 70.2 emitters.
Yes:

MF03 LED configuration:

7 pcs Cree xhp70.2

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one Cree xhp35 hi

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SKV89 wrote:
with only 6 batteries, output will be limited, if you would be swapping in xhp70.2 emitters if that would even fit.
Not sure how many cells the MF03 was suppose to be running?

Maybe XHP50.2’s would fit best, since the die size is the same as XM-L’s that’s already in this.

Then maybe an XHP35 HI for the center spot, but more complications for running a 12v and 6v emitters in the same light, although XHP50.2 are also available in 12v I believe. Or maybe a sliced SST40 for the spot, if 3v/6v would be more doable.

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One thing that might be an issue is if the reflector in this thing is plastic.

EDIT: (It’s aluminum!)
Reflector: Aluminum smooth reflector
Aluminum alloy mirror surface reflective cup (better heating diffusion, better endurance)

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I’m thinking the MF03 has a much larger head.

This dive light’s head is 73mm…
I did a quick percentage calculation of the approximate size of the center reflector using the photo, and I’m coming up with 25.5mm

Not much throw to be expected from a 25.5mm reflector.

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In the MF03 thread someone estimated the head at 120~130mm

So my calculation of the approximate size of the center reflector in the MF03 is about 45mm.

And it’s probably deeper too, so we can expect some throw from 45mm, but 25.5mm not much.

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beam0 wrote:
I’m thinking the MF03 has a much larger head.

This dive light’s head is 73mm…
I did a quick percentage calculation of the approximate size of the center reflector using the photo, and I’m coming up with 25.5mm

Not much throw to be expected from a 25.5mm reflector.

~ ~ ~ ~

In the MF03 thread someone estimated the head at 120~130mm

So my calculation of the approximate size of the center reflector in the MF03 is about 45mm.

And it’s probably deeper too, so we can expect some throw from 45mm, but 25.5mm not much.

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But it was okay to dream for a bit right? Smile


Yeah…
I’d like to add that I really hate the amount of dead space on the MF03 head. By dead I mean “not reflecting light forward”.
This light shows how this should be done.
But maybe it would be more expensive at larger size.
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Agro wrote:
beam0 wrote:
I’m thinking the MF03 has a much larger head.

This dive light’s head is 73mm…
I did a quick percentage calculation of the approximate size of the center reflector using the photo, and I’m coming up with 25.5mm

Not much throw to be expected from a 25.5mm reflector.

~ ~ ~ ~

In the MF03 thread someone estimated the head at 120~130mm

So my calculation of the approximate size of the center reflector in the MF03 is about 45mm.

And it’s probably deeper too, so we can expect some throw from 45mm, but 25.5mm not much.

~ ~ ~ ~

But it was okay to dream for a bit right? Smile


Yeah…
I’d like to add that I really hate the amount of dead space on the MF03 head. By dead I mean “not reflecting light forward”.
This light shows how this should be done.
But maybe it would be more expensive at larger size.
I agree, a lot of wasted real estate on that MF03, they could make larger reflectors in there.

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On the extreme end of that thought, I just found this one today!… Smile


But the head is still only 70mm.

https://www.dhgate.com/store/product/super-bright-sky-ray-king-25000-lum...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SKY-RAY-KING-14xT6-14xCree-XM-L-T6-25000...

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beam0 wrote:
Agro wrote:
beam0 wrote:
I’m thinking the MF03 has a much larger head.

This dive light’s head is 73mm…
I did a quick percentage calculation of the approximate size of the center reflector using the photo, and I’m coming up with 25.5mm

Not much throw to be expected from a 25.5mm reflector.

~ ~ ~ ~

In the MF03 thread someone estimated the head at 120~130mm

So my calculation of the approximate size of the center reflector in the MF03 is about 45mm.

And it’s probably deeper too, so we can expect some throw from 45mm, but 25.5mm not much.

~ ~ ~ ~

But it was okay to dream for a bit right? Smile


Yeah…
I’d like to add that I really hate the amount of dead space on the MF03 head. By dead I mean “not reflecting light forward”.
This light shows how this should be done.
But maybe it would be more expensive at larger size.
I agree, a lot of wasted real estate on that MF03, they could make larger reflectors in there.

.
On the extreme end of that thought, I just found this one today!… Smile


Note that you actually lose a lot of reflector area for LED openings.