Thrunite Catapult V6 (mini thrower) // Full reveiw

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Maybe I used the wrong word[regulated] I love MAX output on the trail. The Cat V6 steps down like I said after ~ 2, 2.5 minutes. I just step it back and continue to do it. It is a pain in the ass! It is never too hot too hold for my leather hands.These manufacturers are over cautious,,,I guess it is in the best interest of the average Joe!

Yeah, I think you are right, Catapult V6 will step down from the MAX output, when either the temperature is too high or an internal timer like that is expired. However when the battery voltage is not high enough, the output of Turbo will then be reduced to a lower value (the MAX is no longer available). At this time the internal timed step-down seems disabled, and you can have V6 stay in Turbo as long as the temperature is not too hot.

And BTW, the included ThruNite battery is not powerful enough, you may get a Shockli 5500mAh or Keeppower IMR 6000mAh instead (both with PLB 55A inside).

!https://i.imgur.com/5pngbEp.png!


But will the Keeppower 6000 fit.

Yes it can fit, I have tried it.

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Newlumen wrote:
Unprotected vs protected 26650

Thrunite tc20 with shockli imr 26650
Turn on.. 3820 lumen
@30 seconds.. 3740 lumen

Thrunite tc20 with thrunite oem 26650
Turn on. 3860 lumen
@30 seconds.. 3210 lumen

Maybe your ThruNite battery is slightly weaker than mine, or it is not fully charged, or perhaps my TC20 NW is slightly under driven. My fully charged ThruNite battery performed exactly the same as the PLB 55A for the first Turbo shot, for the first two minutes. However it heated up more quickly and was unable to sustain the 2nd shot for more than half a minute. And the PLB 55A can sustain ~9 minutes (accumulated).

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toobadorz wrote:
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Maybe I used the wrong word[regulated] I love MAX output on the trail. The Cat V6 steps down like I said after ~ 2, 2.5 minutes. I just step it back and continue to do it. It is a pain in the ass! It is never too hot too hold for my leather hands.These manufacturers are over cautious,,,I guess it is in the best interest of the average Joe!

Yeah, I think you are right, Catapult V6 will step down from the MAX output, when either the temperature is too high or an internal timer like that is expired. However when the battery voltage is not high enough, the output of Turbo will then be reduced to a lower value (the MAX is no longer available). At this time the internal timed step-down seems disabled, and you can have V6 stay in Turbo as long as the temperature is not too hot.

And BTW, the included ThruNite battery is not powerful enough, you may get a Shockli 5500mAh or Keeppower IMR 6000mAh instead (both with PLB 55A inside).

!https://i.imgur.com/5pngbEp.png!


But will the Keeppower 6000 fit.

Yes it can fit, I have tried it.


Thanks toobadorz,have just ordered some.
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toobadorz wrote:
Newlumen wrote:
Unprotected vs protected 26650

Thrunite tc20 with shockli imr 26650
Turn on.. 3820 lumen
@30 seconds.. 3740 lumen

Thrunite tc20 with thrunite oem 26650
Turn on. 3860 lumen
@30 seconds.. 3210 lumen

Maybe your ThruNite battery is slightly weaker than mine, or it is not fully charged, or perhaps my TC20 NW is slightly under driven. My fully charged ThruNite battery performed exactly the same as the PLB 55A for the first Turbo shot, for the first two minutes. However it heated up more quickly and was unable to sustain the 2nd shot for more than half a minute. And the PLB 55A can sustain ~9 minutes (accumulated).

!https://i.imgur.com/HDCnziI.png!

Hi toobadorz.

Thanks for your testing.

When you say accumulated, do you mean that is the TOTAL time of turbo the battery can supply regardless of how many times you step back up to turbo?

How long of ACCUMULATED Turbo time can the PLB 55A with the CAT V6? I see you got 9 minutes for the TC20.

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Hi toobadorz.

Thanks for your testing.

When you say accumulated, do you mean that is the TOTAL time of turbo the battery can supply regardless of how many times you step back up to turbo?

How long of ACCUMULATED Turbo time can the PLB 55A with the CAT V6? I see you got 9 minutes for the TC20.

Hi Wolfdog,

Yes, the word “accumulated” means the runtime curves were measured by repeatedly cooling and then re-activating Turbo. I already posted my measurements for V6 Wink

~16.5 minutes. But since your V6 is driven harder than the stock version, this should be noticeably shorter.

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^^^

Yes, I see the chart. So would that be 13 Minutes? Not quite 16 minutes.

Looks like 16:36 it dives and does not make it back to turbo.

One question. That is NOT totally dependant on the battery is it?

If a different driver was put in could the PLB-55A possibly sustain more turbo? I would think there would be enough voltage after 13 minutes to do this.

Just my guess as the guy who modded it is working on another driver.

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Just received mine from joker145 in pristine condition. Thank you joker. Beer With the stock battery the throw lives up to spec according to my meter (calibrated to known lights). The switch feels good and solid.

It does get a bit uncomfortable before the turbo/temp control kicks in but not so hot that you want to drop it. All in all a nice handheld shooter with great neutral white beam. It will be used primarily onboard the ship I currently work on by others so the usb charging makes it mostly idiot proof.

Kudos to Thrunite for making a nice compact 26650 thrower.

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I have one as well, really love it , and it’s very compact for the power…Does anyone know if a protected Orbtronic 26650 will fit ??

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The supplied Thrunite battery is 68.78 mm long if that helps. The Orbtronic site says 68.8 so I don’t see why not.

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I have one as well, really love it , and it’s very compact for the power…Does anyone know if a protected Orbtronic 26650 will fit ??

It might fit. It is ~2.8mm More than the 5750mAh Orbtronic cell that I am using. I would certainly go with that one. It has more capacity/More amps/Definitely fits and a few $‘s cheaper.

The 5750mAh cell is 5mm from the top of the tube [see pic. below]

That would tell you that the protected Orbtronic 26650 [68.8mm] should fit but you have to take the compressed Negative “Tail cap” spring into account.

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Swib and Wolfdog… thank you both !

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Here is the supplied Thrunite battery. If Orbtronics measurement for the protected battery is correct, then it should indeed fit with some room to spare as you can see in the photo of the Thrunite battery which is basically the same size and obviously works in the light.

Swib gets credit for pointing out the supplied Thrunite battery.

I did measure the Thrunite battery [with a ruler!] and even though I was not using a micrometer, it indeed seems like it is ~68.9 mm.

I would still go w/ the Orbtronic 5750 20A[PLB-55A]. Wink

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I agree about the Orbtronic 5750 20 PLB-55A. From toobadorz’s graph it seems to be a better choice. However it appears to be a non protected cell. Not sure if that is really important to you.

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Yes,,,that would be a personal choice for him. When I started this hobby 90% or more of my cells were Protected. Now it is the opposite.

Unprotected cells, especially IMR and similar ones, are unprotected for a reason. they are safer and do not need protection. As long as we have common sense, do not drain them too far, have a DMM and know our run times w/ each torch, then the Unprotected high drains are certainly a better choice. I have not had one safety issue with them.

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Nor have I had any issues with unprotected cells. In the lights that I make for others I just make sure to use a driver with LVP so they can’t over discharge the battery. I’m just about to push the button on flat top Orbtronics. Is that what you are using?

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Nor have I had any issues with unprotected cells. In the lights that I make for others I just make sure to use a driver with LVP so they can’t over discharge the battery. I’m just about to push the button on flat top Orbtronics. Is that what you are using?

Yes.Will they ship to Canada at a reasonable price or are you getting them elsewhere? Shockli 5500 is also the same cell and so is the KP 6000mAh.

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Thank you wolfdog1226. I will have them sent to my US shipping point. Less hassle, cheaper, and I’ll get them quicker.

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Here is a beam shot of the Catvn V6************ 1988L/194Kcd

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I cannot see it.

EDIT:  I get a 404 error.

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Ok,,Thanks.

I do not seem to be able to get a video on here from my Google account. All my pics and videos from my phone go to Google photos.Then I copy/paste on here and I am the Only one able to view it.

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Ok,,Thanks.

I do not seem to be able to get a video on here from my Google account. All my pics and videos from my phone go to Google photos.Then I copy/paste on here and I am the Only one able to view it.

Next time, upload to YouTube..

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Thanks NL. I knew I needed to do that but kept trying w/ google photos!

I hope this works,,,,,,,CATvn V6 NW 5000K 1988L/194Kcd w/ average video on my camera!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JVAS1xXju0&feature=youtu.be

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Thanks NL. I knew I needed to do that but kept trying w/ google photos!

I hope this works,,,,,,,CATvn V6 NW 5000K 1988L/194Kcd w/ average video on my camera!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JVAS1xXju0&feature=youtu.be

Thanks for the video.. why do you have to double click again at 1:05 ? Was there a stepdown?

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I did the thrunite catapult v6 lumen test using Texas ace tube. Enjoy.

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wolfdog1226 wrote:
Thanks NL. I knew I needed to do that but kept trying w/ google photos!

I hope this works,,,,,,,CATvn V6 NW 5000K 1988L/194Kcd w/ average video on my camera!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JVAS1xXju0&feature=youtu.be

Thanks for the video.. why do you have to double click again at 1:05 ? Was there a stepdown?

I want to make sure it was on turbo. It steps down at first ~ 2 minutes,,,then about every 75 seconds after that. That is with the Orbtronic 5750 battery,,,same as shockli 5500 cell.[PLB 55A]

Thanks for the testing,,,that is almost the exact numbers on mine,,turn on and 30 seconds. But V54 used the Thrunite battery for my specs. Shockli/Orb. probably a bit higher.

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New V6 video w. special guest coming up. Probably tomorrow because it still is not on my Google photos yet.only on my phone.

Time to go to bed here in the suburbs of Philly,,,,SUPER BOWL CHAMPS! Time will tell,,they may do it again! Cool

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General thought here first. We all have to make best with what we have. In this case our video equipment and locations. I have some of the best locations with ZERO light pollution on these dark and isolated hiking trails.No city or Suburban lights. I just wish my video equipment[my phone!] was better!

Here is my V6 video w/ a special guest.My video recording was not the most stable as I was focusing more on my special guest!

https://youtu.be/8pEqjqQZdg8

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I just noticed in the OP review, turbo to LVP shutdown was 90 minutes.  Thrunite says 150 minutes but reality is 90 minutes which is -40% from specs.  Doesn't make any sense for manufactures to make such exaggerated claims on run times.  I was making a spreadsheet of run times for all my lights and was looking at reviews and came upon this one.  

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Can anybody please measure the diameter of the catapult v6 mcpcb shelf or provide dimensions of the square mcpcb? Thanks

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