any interest in 2*AA flashlight?

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djozz wrote:
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USB rechargeable nihm with a nice form factor. I would like to see two batteries next to each other, keeping the light short.
That would be perfect: a Sunwayman D20A-killer!

Forgot the model name, but I had exactly that light in mind. Thnx! @Manker, I would buy something like this immediately.

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800 lm??? Please, stop this stupid hunting for hundrets of lumens! I´d prefer 350-400 lm without step down and with good runtime(more than hour of 400 flat regulated lumens would be fantastic).

There are already plenty of 2xAA out there that does that already. High powered 2xAA is limited to only Armytek Prime and Partner A2.

Yes, the Armytek Prime A2 will already do what he wants.

I agree with samyy. 800 lumens seems over the board for a 2xAA light. How useful can it be if it drains the batteries in seconds and you’re left with a dead light or very little runtime after that? My interest in this kind of light is for friends and family who have no clue about Li-ion cells. They are usually plenty happy with a few hundred lumens.


But, it was literally just said in the posts above yours (the ones you quoted) – that the light you want already exists! We don’t need another light like the others. So, if Manker will make it 800lm, it will be worth making and lots of us will buy it. Besides, have you never heard of modes?

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Yes, the Armytek Prime A2 will already do what he wants.

I agree with samyy. 800 lumens seems over the board for a 2xAA light. How useful can it be if it drains the batteries in seconds and you’re left with a dead light or very little runtime after that? My interest in this kind of light is for friends and family who have no clue about Li-ion cells. They are usually plenty happy with a few hundred lumens.

Seconds??? 800 lumens with two Eneloop Pro AA’s should be able to maintain that for at least half an hour. Heat will probably require thermal regulation, but in cold weather that wouldn’t need to kick in at all.

Besides, if you want 500 lumens, get an Armytek Prime A2. It will run for an hour on that, or use lower modes if you want it to run all night.

If you only want to use alkalines, then you’re right to give up on any high-power light. Stick to a maglite or any department store light. (You won’t get regulated output, though.) Or, use the Armytek in lower modes, and alkalines will work fine.

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Guys…

I think that something with a crazy turbo mode of 800 lumens, high of 500 lumens, medium of 300 lumens, low of 80 lumens, ultralow of 15, and firefly of less than 1 lumen is a perfect choice.

That would be decent runtimes depending the mode you choose.

If you need huge output you put turbo…. the you need less output you put lower .ode and so on.

If good to have the chance to have 800 lumens for a burst.

Seems reasonable….

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I would be interested if:
-the AA batteries were placed size by side, and not 1 behind the other like majority of lights This would keep the light compact in length.
-the output and general performance was designed mostly around NiMH batteries. I agree with others, if using 2 × 14500, may as well go with a 18650 light.

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Not to be Mr Glass Half-Empty, but I’m not sure just how practical a 2×AA light would be.

You’re losing the compactness of a 1×AA light, so it wouldn’t be nearly as pocketable.

You’re having 2 cells in series, which is dangerous for Li-ion cells (matched 14500s?), and using alkaleaks, you know one is going to drain faster’n the other and start leaking all over the place, turning the insides into a salt-mine.

With 2×AA, I’d rather use an 18650 light already, which would be shorter, yet have much greater output and runtime. Or just a 1×AA light with a 14500.

I got a few TK4As and SF11s which are 4×AA lights, tomato-paste-can lights. I already had an alkaleak brown one of the nice shiny brass nipples in the tailcap when it started leaking. Now, as soon as I see any drop in performance, I empty the light and use the individual (non-leaking) cells in 1×AA lights, watching them carefully. It’s a pain.

2×NiMH might be problematic, also unless you watch each cell. Low-voltage indication would get tricky, twin half-spent alkaleaks on turbo might drop to the 1.xV range, enough for at least one NiMH cell to run down well below 1V.

I’ve got two Quark 2AA-X lights that I stopped using because even though I love the twist-for-turbo head, “maximum” would steadily drop as the cells wore down. Can’t use a pair of 14500s with the low-voltage head, so I went and got the 1×AA tube for it. Still is a waste, as it still fades with cell-wear, and I still don’t use it anymore, now that so many other 1×AA lights (SP10/TK05/etc.) outperform it. It’s not very pocketable, and is a waste to holster.

I just don’t see any advantage to a 2×AA light over, well, anything.

And besides, 2wks after Manker comes out with it, there’ll be a UTorch UT2AA coming out. Evil

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samyy wrote:
800 lm??? Please, stop this stupid hunting for hundrets of lumens! I´d prefer 350-400 lm without step down and with good runtime(more than hour of 400 flat regulated lumens would be fantastic).
There is nothing stopping Manker from making a flashlight that has both 800 lm turbo mode as well as 400 lm high mode. Don’t turn on the turbo mode if you don’t want to.
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Could be interesting. I have several Manker lights, including the Bluetooth-controlled GodMess, and other Manker AAA & AA lights. The Manker E03H is currently my favorite single AA 1.5 volt light i ever owned, and use it more than any other EDC light i have.

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I like 2xAA for chucking in a glove box or fishing tackle box etc. Especially with some Eneloops in it. But some 14500s could be interesting for more day to day use.

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Then…. it is going to have usb recharge??

If not, I am not interested

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I’m not sure why the demand for built-in charging. Yes, it’s convenient, but often comes with the cost of losing waterproofing. It also adds to the size and weight of the light. Also, there’s the complexity of charging two cells which are in series. Will the circuitry charge them independently, or will it just charge them as a single battery? If it’s just treated as a single battery, that could result in premature wearing of the cells.

I can see why people would like USB charging, but are they also willing to accept the downsides?

I like to have a couple of lights that have built-in charging. It makes is easy for travel. But I wouldn’t want it on most of my lights.

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Personally I don’t see the advantage of a flashlight being able to recharge the battery. I have several that can but I find it easier, and of course quicker, to just pop in another battery when I have too. If I have time to wait for the built-in charger to recharge the battery then I have time to put the battery in a dedicated charger that will likely do a better and faster job. I guess if I only had a single battery for the flashlight then it would be handy to have, but how many people only have a single battery for their flashlight? And especially for a AA light?

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SIGShooter wrote:
Personally I don’t see the advantage of a flashlight being able to recharge the battery.
Especially when we are talking about AA batteries. You can just pop in some alkalines when your NiMH cells are done and you don’t have a charger handy.
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samgalax wrote:
Please manker…. make a good 2xaa with ability to recharge 2x NIMH via micro usb or usb type c…

But not having to unscrew the head to acces the usb port. I mean…. preferably usb port with a rubber cap to avoid water/moisture.

And forget 14500.

please please!

I would prefer the unscrew version, because rubber caps disappear. I like the zanflare F1 but with 2xAA it would be a perfect light.

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SIGShooter wrote:
Personally I don’t see the advantage of a flashlight being able to recharge the battery. I have several that can but I find it easier, and of course quicker, to just pop in another battery when I have too. If I have time to wait for the built-in charger to recharge the battery then I have time to put the battery in a dedicated charger that will likely do a better and faster job. I guess if I only had a single battery for the flashlight then it would be handy to have, but how many people only have a single battery for their flashlight? And especially for a AA light?

I own a bunch of flashlights with USB charging built-in but I’ve never used it because my Xtar Dragon VP4 Plus works much better. However, I do like the option of having usb charging just in case I’m in a situation where the battery is depleted and I don’t have spare batteries. I think it is useful as an emergency flashlight in the car, when used at work, at camping trips (solar charging), on vacations, etc. I have several non flashaholic friends that asked me specifically to help them buy flashlights with usb charging built-in. I think usb charging makes for great gifts that can be quite useful for non flashlight enthusiasts.

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Another vote here for side-by-side.

I’ve become rather fond of the shape of my Nitecore SRT, and think a downscaled emulation of that form could be a pleasingly pocketable alternative to my 18350 and 18500 lights. Not sure if there would be much advantage other than esthetic and play value, but those are the being temptations to most of my purchases anyway. Davie

I like being able to swap in an 18650 tube for the 18350/18500 when I anticipate more capacity need, and I don’t see there being much of a comparable option for side-by-side AA format. But that wouldn’t dissuade me from purchasing if it caught my fancy.

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I have a Nitecore MT22A that I really like. Side by side AA light. Works well. Plenty of light. Easy to fit in my back pocket. I have a Zanflare 2xAA tube light that I use around the house and like it as well. I would tend to carry the Nitecore more just because it’s easier to carry. The Zanflare is kinda long to be throwing in my front pocket or something. Wouldn’t even have to be 800lumens but that’s okay. As long as some other useful modes were present it wouldn’t bother me.

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Plus 1 for side by side 2xAA NiMH 90+ CRI with USB rechargeable

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djozz wrote:
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USB rechargeable nihm with a nice form factor. I would like to see two batteries next to each other, keeping the light short.
That would be perfect: a Sunwayman D20A-killer!

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How about a nice high CRI flooder (so we can actually use the capability)

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WalkIntoTheLight wrote:
I’m not sure why the demand for built-in charging. Yes, it’s convenient, but often comes with the cost of losing waterproofing. It also adds to the size and weight of the light. Also, there’s the complexity of charging two cells which are in series. Will the circuitry charge them independently, or will it just charge them as a single battery? If it’s just treated as a single battery, that could result in premature wearing of the cells.

I can see why people would like USB charging, but are they also willing to accept the downsides?

I like to have a couple of lights that have built-in charging. It makes is easy for travel. But I wouldn’t want it on most of my lights.

yes skip the USB stuff and give us a more robust lower cost light

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I like this idea, 2xAA optimized for long regulated runtime, NiMH or Lithium primary (disposable) cells, as a dirt-reliable blackout and backup light, compact, light, easy to use. Leave the max output lumen craze for the lithium ion crowd, there are already a ton of “pocket rocket” designs out there.

 

over a decade ago, it was very popular for very inexpensive LED dropin mods for the venerable 2AA Mag, offering muggle operation and LONG run times (and decent output with NiMHs) and bulletproof reliability of lithium primary (disposable) cells as a long term storage / blackout / backup role. I’d like to see a re-emergence of this design concept.

 

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Ronin42 wrote:
How about a nice high CRI flooder (so we can actually use the capability)

 

plus one here, bravo!

 

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I’m interested in a 2×AA NiMH 800lm light.

I like long lights, so nose-to-tail for me. I’d be very interested in 3×AA nose-to-tail (1000+ lumens? Smile ). Maybe a light that takes 1×AA, with two extension tubes? There was an Olight (I think) that did that, but it wasn’t very efficient on 3×AA, which was the form factor I most wanted, so I didn’t buy it.

If it was side by side, I’d give a 2×AA light a fair hearing, but I’d be a lot more interested in 4×AA (or even 6×AA) as two nose-to-tail sets placed side by side, like the Fenix LD41 or the Nitecore EA45S.

5000K and high CRI are major plus points for me.

I have no interest whatsoever in 14500 Li-Ion cells or lights with plastic body parts, though.

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How is going the process of the new light, manker?

Any update?

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Personally I really have a weak spot for flashlights with a side-by-side battery compartment.
To me this design pattern looks great. The form factor also allows for multiple LEDs (e.g. white-red, or spot and flood).
Hopefully Manker can add a new similar side-by-side design.

Nitecore MT22A (2xAA)
Sunwayman D20A (2xAA)
Frelux Synergy1 (2xAAA)

Pelican 3415 (3xAA)
Acebeam uc15 (2xAAA)
Streamlight Sidewinder (2xAA)

Edit: Also an iconal design side-by-side cell light is the Cool Fall Spy 007 (2x CR123A).

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Hmmm. Side to side aaa light is interesting too.

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