Mateminco MT35Plus / Deft X (aspheric with Wavien collar) photo thread (comparative shots post #9)

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Mateminco MT35Plus / Deft X (aspheric with Wavien collar) photo thread (comparative shots post #9)

Hi guys,

The Wavien collar is reportedly available again, so I am posting these photos as the Deft X, the aspherical long-thrower of OMG Lumens/saabluster utilizing the 2013 ‘old’ XPG-S2, de-domed LED technology /Wavien collar combination (certified at 1.043Kcd by its modder) and will be compared to the conventional reflectored Mateminco MT35Plus.

Sorry, no beamshots at the moment as the weather is not cooperative, forecast till weekend.

Edit: see post # 9 for beamshots

Edited by: tatasal on 06/12/2018 - 18:37
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Interesting. Where did you get the Mateminco?

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ChibiM wrote:

Interesting. Where did you get the Mateminco?

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Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Mateminco-MT35-Plus-2416-Meters-S…

Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mateminco-MT35-Plus-2416-Meters…

chat with their rep, you’ll be surprised with the final price.

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tatasal wrote:
ChibiM wrote:

Interesting. Where did you get the Mateminco?

chat with their rep, you’ll be surprised with the final price.

Very interesting stuff Smile

(Please, edit your post, as the links do not work /use Advanced Post Editor/)

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adam7027 wrote:
tatasal wrote:
ChibiM wrote:

Interesting. Where did you get the Mateminco?

chat with their rep, you’ll be surprised with the final price.

Very interesting stuff Smile

(Please, edit your post, as the links do not work /use Advanced Post Editor/)

l’m on mobile phone now l can’t edit those links properly.

Perhaps in an hour from now.

edit: indeed it’s 404

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Aliexpress is down for maintenance , that’s why (edit : it’s already back)

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Working links:

Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Mateminco-MT35-Plus-2416-Meters-S...

Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mateminco-MT35-Plus-2416-Meters...

Just chat with their rep for a price you’d be surprised with. Thumbs Up

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…and now some comparative pics at my usual 293-meter (921 feet) cellphone tower shot: (same Samsung 30Q’s used, transferred from one light to the other)

Deft X:

Mateminco MT35plus (NW):


Deft X, Mateminco MT35Plus (NW)

Deft X, Mateminco MT35Plus (nw), Mateminco MT35(nw):

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Interesting comparison. The MT35 has 1.2Mcd or so? The larger beam of the MT35 really helps one see the surrounding area out there.

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EasyB wrote:
Interesting comparison. The MT35 has 1.2Mcd or so? The larger beam of the MT35 really helps one see the surrounding area out there.

I have just added my previous MT35 shot (not the Plus) taken from this thread (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60804) to the side-by-side shots.

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tatasal wrote:
EasyB wrote:
Interesting comparison. The MT35 has 1.2Mcd or so? The larger beam of the MT35 really helps one see the surrounding area out there.

I have just added my previous MT35 shot (not the Plus) taken from this thread (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60804) to the side-by-side shots.

Ah ok, I was not familiar with the names of those lights. It looks like the MT35 is the ~85mm head with ~500Kcd, and the plus model is the 120mm head with ~1200Kcd?

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EasyB wrote:
tatasal wrote:
EasyB wrote:
Interesting comparison. The MT35 has 1.2Mcd or so? The larger beam of the MT35 really helps one see the surrounding area out there.

I have just added my previous MT35 shot (not the Plus) taken from this thread (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60804) to the side-by-side shots.

Ah ok, I was not familiar with the names of those lights. It looks like the MT35 is the ~85mm head with ~500Kcd, and the plus model is the 120mm head with ~1200Kcd?

Correct.

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Wow. Mt35 plus or mf04 is amazing.

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Wow. Mt35 plus or mf04 is amazing.

Yeah, I am actually surprised myself of the result tonight. Previously the Deft X (de-domed XPG-S2) aspheric used to be my King of the Hill since 5 years ago.

These new, large reflectored XHP35 lights has come a long way now, even just in its stock form.

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These are locked exposure/aperture/iso shots? You just see too many unusable beamshot comparisons these days, that’s why I’m curious.

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These are locked exposure/aperture/iso shots? You just see too many unusable beamshot comparisons these days, that’s why I’m curious.

All photos taken using my OnePlus 5T phone, all in “Auto” mode (factory default setting in exposure/aperture/iso/wb, etc.) though it has a “Pro” mode, wherein I can adjust the those parameters.

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tatasal wrote:
LichtAn wrote:
These are locked exposure/aperture/iso shots? You just see too many unusable beamshot comparisons these days, that’s why I’m curious.

All photos taken using my OnePlus 5T phone, all in “Auto” mode (factory default setting in exposure/aperture/iso/wb, etc.) though it has a “Pro” mode, wherein I can adjust the those parameters.

I appreciate your effort, but you can’t use comparison shots without these parameters fixed. Brightness is all over the place between the shots. In a bad case a 100 lumen light can look brighter than a 1000 lumen light.

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LichtAn wrote:
tatasal wrote:
LichtAn wrote:
These are locked exposure/aperture/iso shots? You just see too many unusable beamshot comparisons these days, that’s why I’m curious.

All photos taken using my OnePlus 5T phone, all in “Auto” mode (factory default setting in exposure/aperture/iso/wb, etc.) though it has a “Pro” mode, wherein I can adjust the those parameters.

I appreciate your effort, but you can’t use comparison shots without these parameters fixed. Brightness is all over the place between the shots. In a bad case a 100 lumen light can look brighter than a 1000 lumen light.


Correct, but these shots are not so far off in exposure, if you look at the illumination down the road that is not affected by the beams, it looks fairly the same over both pictures.

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LichtAn wrote:
tatasal wrote:
LichtAn wrote:
These are locked exposure/aperture/iso shots? You just see too many unusable beamshot comparisons these days, that’s why I’m curious.

All photos taken using my OnePlus 5T phone, all in “Auto” mode (factory default setting in exposure/aperture/iso/wb, etc.) though it has a “Pro” mode, wherein I can adjust the those parameters.

I appreciate your effort, but you can’t use comparison shots without these parameters fixed. Brightness is all over the place between the shots. In a bad case a 100 lumen light can look brighter than a 1000 lumen light.

Edit: I was typing the post below before the post above of member djozz.

I understand what you mean, as I have a been an amateur photographer during the manual, film days, and I am aware that a 100 lumen light can be manipulated “manually” by tweaking the parameters to favor one over the other.

However, when I used the default mode during those beamshot photos, I always compare what I see in the screen of my phone compared to what I see outside the screen and I assure you, they are basically similar as nothing is exaggerated nor subtracted substantially from each other.

Take note at the ‘brightness’ of the houses far on the foreground on each shot and they are basically the same, meaning the default setting did not compensate for the bright spill of the MT35Plus compared to that of the Deft X. Only the spill of the MTPlus made the houses nearer to the camera brighter.

And I should emphasize that the beamshot of the Deft X looks like this because it’s nighttime, and an aspheric light has NO spill.

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djozz wrote:
LichtAn wrote:
tatasal wrote:
LichtAn wrote:
These are locked exposure/aperture/iso shots? You just see too many unusable beamshot comparisons these days, that’s why I’m curious.

All photos taken using my OnePlus 5T phone, all in “Auto” mode (factory default setting in exposure/aperture/iso/wb, etc.) though it has a “Pro” mode, wherein I can adjust the those parameters.

I appreciate your effort, but you can’t use comparison shots without these parameters fixed. Brightness is all over the place between the shots. In a bad case a 100 lumen light can look brighter than a 1000 lumen light.


Correct, but these shots are not so far off in exposure, if you look at the illumination down the road that is not affected by the beams, it looks fairly the same over both pictures.

Correct, this is what I am trying to drive at.

djozz, you know what you are talking about. For that, Thumbs Up and Beer

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Thanks for the great comparison. The MT35 Plus lumen advantage can really be seen here despite the similar lux rating. I can’t wait to see a GT or MF04/MT35Plus with the waivien collar and aspheric lense! 3MCD!

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ChibiM wrote:

Interesting. Where did you get the Mateminco?


I think it is the Astrolux MF-04,so you can find it at discount price looking here at budgetlightforum.