LED test / review - SC5 based Cree LEDs (XP-L HD/HI, XP-G2 / -E2, XM-L2) - WIP!

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Cree XLamp XP-L HD, XP-L HI, XP-G2, XP-E2, XM-L2

XPLAWT-00-0000-0000V5051
XPLAWT-H0-0000-0000V3051
XPGBWT-L1-0000-00L51
XPEBWT-L1-0000-00G51
XMLBWT-00-0000-0000U4051

In this thread I will present the widely used Cree SC5 based LED emitter line-up (3 V class currently), presented to the public in 2012 to 2014. My goal is to establish a single-post resource for raw data and other important values and measurements of these older LEDs, including the well-known over current diagrams.

If new results are available I'll update this post(s). Luminance results of all emitters shown here will follow soon. Raw data are also available in this post!

XP-L High Density (HD)

Tj 85 °C / If 1,050 mA unless noted otherwise


Order code: XPLAWT-00-0000-0000V5051


Type: single die (lateral)
Binning: V5 (typ. 460 lm)
Rated voltage: typ. 2.95 V (max. 3.25 V)
Forward current: max. 3,000 mA
Viewing angle: typ. 125° (FWHM)
Thermal resistance: typ. 2.2 °C/W
Junction temp.: max 150 °C


The official datasheet can be found here (offficial Cree website, pdf)

XP-L High Intensity (HI)

Tj 85 °C / If 1,050 mA unless noted otherwise


Order code: XPLAWT-H0-0000-0000V3051


Type: single die (lateral)
Binning: V3 (typ. 420 lm)
Rated voltage: typ. 2.95 V (max. 3.25 V)
Forward current: max. 3,000 mA
Viewing angle: typ. 115° (FWHM)
Thermal resistance: typ. 2.2 °C/W
Junction temp.: max 150 °C



The official datasheet can be found here (offficial Cree website, pdf)

XP-G2

Tj 85 °C / If 350 mA unless noted otherwise


Order code: XPGBWT-L1-0000-00L51


Type: single die (lateral)
Binning: S4 (typ. 164 lm)
Rated voltage: typ. 2.8 V (max. 3.15 V)
Forward current: max. 1,500 mA
Viewing angle: typ. 115° (FWHM)
Thermal resistance: typ. 4.0 °C/W
Junction temp.: max 150 °C



The official datasheet can be found here (offficial Cree website, pdf)

currently only diagram of dedomed XP-G2 S4 is shown here. LED tested here is the 'old' version of XP-G2 in highest bin S4, before production process was changed.

XP-E2

Tj 85 °C / If 350 mA unless noted otherwise


Order code: XPEBWT-L1-0000-00G51


Type: single die (lateral)
Binning: R4 (typ. 130 lm)
Rated voltage: typ. 2.9 V (max. 3.25 V)
Forward current: max. 1,000 mA
Viewing angle: typ. 110° (FWHM)
Thermal resistance: typ. 9.0 °C/W
Junction temp.: max 150 °C


The official datasheet can be found here (offficial Cree website, pdf)

XM-L2

Tj 85 °C / If 700 mA unless noted otherwise


Order code: XMLBWT-00-0000-0000U4051

Type: single die (lateral)
Binning: U4 (typ. 340 lm)
Rated voltage: typ. 2.85 V (max. 3.15 V)
Forward current: max. 3,000 mA
Viewing angle: typ. 125° (FWHM)
Thermal resistance: typ. 2.5 °C/W
Junction temp.: max 150 °C


The official datasheet can be found here (offficial Cree website, pdf)

at 5,200 mA the test ended due to burnt bonding wires.

Note: this post is WIP.
Changes may occur at all times, so stay tuned and thanks for reading! :)

Greetings, Dominik (aka BLF member koef3)

Mistakes, suggestions or offers / sponsoring of LEDs which I should test next are best sent via PM.

Raw data

Cree XP-L HD/HI, XP-G2, -E2, XM-L2

XP-L HD V5

Amps lm Vf

0,20 107 2,77
0,40 216 2,87
0,60 315 2,94
0,80 404 3,00
1,00 495 3,06
1,20 581 3,11
1,40 666 3,16
1,60 749 3,20
1,80 826 3,25
2,00 902 3,29
2,20 977 3,33
2,40 1045 3,36
2,60 1117 3,40
2,80 1183 3,44
3,00 1250 3,47
3,20 1316 3,51
3,40 1376 3,54
3,60 1438 3,57
3,80 1497 3,60
4,00 1553 3,64
4,20 1611 3,67
4,40 1666 3,70
4,60 1719 3,73
4,80 1769 3,76
5,00 1818 3,80
5,20 1864 3,83
5,40 1909 3,86
5,60 1950 3,89
5,80 1988 3,93
6,00 2025 3,96
6,20 2058 4,00
6,40 2093 4,04
6,60 2124 4,08
6,80 2152 4,12
7,00 2177 4,16
7,20 2201 4,21
7,40 2223 4,25
7,60 2246 4,31
7,80 2264 4,39

XP-L HI V3

Amps lm Vf

0,20 107 2,76
0,40 198 2,85
0,60 288 2,93
0,80 373 2,99
1,00 451 3,05
1,20 528 3,10
1,40 607 3,15
1,60 677 3,20
1,80 746 3,24
2,00 814 3,28
2,20 879 3,32
2,40 945 3,36
2,60 1010 3,40
2,80 1068 3,43
3,00 1127 3,47
3,20 1183 3,50
3,40 1238 3,53
3,60 1295 3,57
3,80 1345 3,60
4,00 1398 3,63
4,20 1445 3,66
4,40 1493 3,69
4,60 1540 3,72
4,80 1583 3,75
5,00 1627 3,78
5,20 1669 3,81
5,40 1711 3,84
5,60 1746 3,87
5,80 1782 3,90
6,00 1818 3,93
6,20 1851 3,96
6,40 1883 3,99
6,60 1909 4,01
6,80 1934 4,04
7,00 1959 4,08
7,20 1983 4,11
7,40 2002 4,15

XP-G2 S4 (old version, domed)

Amps lm Vf


0,20 111 2,82
0,40 202 2,94
0,60 288 3,03
0,80 366 3,11
1,00 443 3,18
1,20 512 3,25
1,40 580 3,31
1,60 643 3,36
1,80 703 3,42
2,00 761 3,47
2,20 816 3,51
2,40 869 3,56
2,60 918 3,61
2,80 968 3,65
3,00 1014 3,70
3,20 1057 3,74
3,40 1098 3,78
3,60 1135 3,83
3,80 1172 3,87
4,00 1208 3,91
4,20 1240 3,96
4,40 1269 4,00
4,60 1296 4,04
4,80 1321 4,08
5,00 1342 4,13
5,20 1360 4,17
5,40 1378 4,21
5,60 1390 4,26
5,80 1401 4,31
6,00 1407 4,36
6,20 1409 4,42
6,40 1407 4,48

XP-G2 S4 (old version, dedomed)

Amps lm Vf


0,20 89 2,82
0,40 162 2,94
0,60 231 3,03
0,80 296 3,11
1,00 355 3,18
1,20 411 3,25
1,40 465 3,31
1,60 515 3,36
1,80 565 3,42
2,00 609 3,47
2,20 654 3,51
2,40 696 3,56
2,60 738 3,61
2,80 776 3,65
3,00 813 3,70
3,20 847 3,74
3,40 878 3,78
3,60 910 3,83
3,80 939 3,87
4,00 967 3,91
4,20 994 3,95
4,40 1017 4,00
4,60 1039 4,04
4,80 1057 4,08
5,00 1074 4,12
5,20 1090 4,17
5,40 1103 4,21
5,60 1114 4,26
5,80 1123 4,31
6,00 1128 4,36
6,20 1129 4,42
6,40 1128 4,48

XP-E2 R4

Amps lm Vf


0,20 94 2,95
0,40 172 3,10
0,60 239 3,20
0,80 294 3,28
1,00 343 3,35
1,20 386 3,42
1,40 422 3,47
1,60 453 3,53
1,80 477 3,57
2,00 495 3,62
2,20 509 3,66
2,40 519 3,70
2,60 523 3,74
2,80 520 3,79
3,00 510 3,83

XM-L2 U4

Amps lm Vf


0,20 133 2,75
0,40 248 2,84
0,60 358 2,92
0,80 463 2,99
1,00 561 3,05
1,20 655 3,10
1,40 747 3,16
1,60 837 3,21
1,80 926 3,26
2,00 1009 3,31
2,20 1092 3,36
2,40 1169 3,40
2,60 1248 3,44
2,80 1324 3,49
3,00 1397 3,53
3,20 1470 3,57
3,40 1538 3,62
3,60 1609 3,66
3,80 1677 3,71
4,00 1744 3,75
4,20 1807 3,80
4,40 1867 3,85
4,60 1926 3,90
4,80 1983 3,96
5,00 2033 4,03
5,20 2077 4,10

As usual, if you create diagrams / comparisons with this data, I would ask you to publish these charts in this topic and also to specify the source of the data used.

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Thanks koef3. Info like this is invaluable when modding and building lights. Cheers. :beer:

:+1:

A big thank you, especially for the data of the de-domed XP-G2 S4 2B. :wink:

Thank you koef3… :+1: :beer:

Hello! :-)

New high CRI XP-E HEW sightings at Kaidomain. See here.

Any chance for a review? I believe one could make a really interesting aspheric build with 4x of these emitters, particularly if dedomed. Quite appealing for triples too.

Reviewers djozz and Texas_Ace already declined. :-((

Cheers ^:)

I'm not sure if these emitters are suitable for clear optics or dedoming.

At first glance they seem to be similar designed to the new Cree platform (XP-G3, XP-L2), with known disadvantages in color uniformity if used in conjunction with clear optics (lenses / reflectors).

Actually after very stressful last weeks I have now some free time to publish some upcoming tests and I could test also these (new?) emitters. I would very happy if someone of you send me some of them (both CCTs) for testing. :)

Does that mean throw improvement would suck when dedomed? :|

Some of these emitters are dedoming bitches for a reason or the other. Already killed 3 XHP50As, tried the razor blade plus fine grit sanding method, but the later procedure messes up or kills the bond wires unless you do it slowly and geeeeently. In fact, I believe the sanding thing is sort of unnecessary.

With regards to getting someone to send you the aforementioned emitters, I can honestly say even that trifle would make me :(( a bit nervous right now. But I'll drop a line somewhere.

Thanks and cheers :-)

Unfortunately, it might be so. Unlike earlier SC5 based emitters the mentioned XP-G3 / XP-L2 has a much bigger die size because of sideways lighted LES (light emitting surface) which has a negeative impact at luminance - even in dedomed state. More informations about this here.

From quick look at first (blurry) pictures I would estimate the die size of XP-E HEW could somewhere in the range of dedomed XP-G2 or domed XP-E2, which means 1,7 to 2,4 mm². I don't think that the dedomed XP-E HEW have the same die size of dedomed 'classic' XP-E / XP-E2.

I never sanded my emitters after shaving. I used the razor and that's it. ;) (But if possible, I consider the classic 'full' dedoming which is more considerable for maximum luminance and therefore throw.)

That would be great, thank you! :)