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What one light for Mom?

If you had to buy one flashlight for someone that isn’t a light fanatic like most of us, what would you pick? Basically I need it to be easy to use and charge.

  • It needs to be an18650 light
  • About 1000 lumens
  • The light should be easy to charge, usb charge or come with a charger.

I’ve got some ideas on this subject, but I’d be interested in what you all have for recommendations?

Thank you

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Convoy s9 with a protected cell?

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Lumintop SD Mini, unless you don’t like your mom then a TacLight Zoomie TV thingy. LOL Just kidding of course. A Zanflare F1 or one I just picked up a Wuben L50 checks all those boxes as well. If you got the extra money a SD Mini really is a great light.

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‘Moms’ don’t generally need 1000LM li-ion lights. They just need lights that they can click to see what’s in front of them, while in the dark.

AA lights are probably the easiest for ‘moms’, unless your mom is some ‘survival expert’.

If she needs some 1000LM USB light, then something from Fenix, NiteCore, or others would be the suggestion, given the budget.

Moms want reliability.

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No question, the Nitefox UT20 (Amazon). Dual-switch setup, so you just have to worry about the tailswitch to turn it on/off, but it’s FC, so it’s got momentary-on, and a half-press gets you momentary light without having to full-click the thing. Recharging port has the typische rubber plug, easy to get on/off. Also has a lighted side-switch cap to show battery status and charging status.

Distant second would be a Zanflare F1 (Gearbest). Great light overall, and great idea, but the screw-ring covering the charging port is O-ring sealed, can be stiff to screw “on” and “off”, but you also don’t want to leave it open and jingling around. Rear switch has a great snap to it, but might also feel a bit stiff compared to the usual rubber-boot switches out there.

For a non-mom, I’d say the F1 should get some serious consideration, but in this case I’d definitely pick the UT20. Plus, Amazon would deliver it hella fast vs GB.

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i gave my parents nitecore tip and tube. they ended up loving the tube – tiny / rechargeable / easy ui. even the tip (at 300 lumens) was an overkill for them.

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No question, the Nitefox UT20 (Amazon). Dual-switch setup, so you just have to worry about the tailswitch to turn it on/off, but it’s FC, so it’s got momentary-on, and a half-press gets you momentary light without having to full-click the thing. Recharging port has the typische rubber plug, easy to get on/off. Also has a lighted side-switch cap to show battery status and charging status.

Distant second would be a Zanflare F1 (Gearbest). Great light overall, and great idea, but the screw-ring covering the charging port is O-ring sealed, can be stiff to screw “on” and “off”, but you also don’t want to leave it open and jingling around. Rear switch has a great snap to it, but might also feel a bit stiff compared to the usual rubber-boot switches out there.

For a non-mom, I’d say the F1 should get some serious consideration, but in this case I’d definitely pick the UT20. Plus, Amazon would deliver it hella fast vs GB.

You know what after hearing that I take back my F1 consideration. That ring is a pain in the butt. The UT20 might be a better option. Though like I said I just got this Wuben L50 is kind of a nice mom light. Easy to get to charging port and it comes with a half way decent battery for a bit over $20.

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Look at the negative reviews of both of those lights on Amazon, not the good ones.

That’s what I want my mom to have when things go dark, lol.

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MH12GT is my pick.
Maybe you should look into a regular AA or AAA flashlight for her though, that would be safer.

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MG12GT, nice light. A bit pricey. None the less a nice light. The nitefox and the Wuben accomplish the same thing at a third of the price.

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toddcshoe wrote:
MG12GT, nice light. A bit pricey. None the less a nice light. The nitefox and the Wuben accomplish the same thing at a third of the price.

I don’t think either of those have as much throw as the MH12GT/P12GT.
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“Moms” and “dads” sometimes need those 1000 lumens, specially when you live in a dark village and you have farm fields, and sometimes cars and animals pass by!!!

After giving my parents a 3xAAA Zoomie, I then passed to them my Nitefox UT20 and so far it has been well used and reliable enough for them to go outside and check the animals, the backyard and all that stuff.

In my opinion, and only comparing the UT20 and the Zanflare F1, for me the Nitefox takes the lead!

I also wanna recommend another light: Wuben TO4R. Has 2 side switches (1 of them is only for strobe modes), 5 regular modes with memory, it has “those” lumens, has USB charger and is super reliable.

It is sold in High CRI as well, if you contact member _the _ Wink

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ChrisGarrett wrote:
‘Moms’ don’t generally need 1000LM li-ion lights. They just need lights that they can click to see what’s in front of them, while in the dark.

AA lights are probably the easiest for ‘moms’, unless your mom is some ‘survival expert’.

If she needs some 1000LM USB light, then something from Fenix, NiteCore, or others would be the suggestion, given the budget.

Moms want reliability.

Chris

Don’t be distracted by the ‘Mom’ part. The overall question is an 18650 light that they don’t have to go out and buy a bunch of gear to keep it charged. Simple but effective.

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No question, the Nitefox UT20 (Amazon). Dual-switch setup, so you just have to worry about the tailswitch to turn it on/off, but it’s FC, so it’s got momentary-on, and a half-press gets you momentary light without having to full-click the thing. Recharging port has the typische rubber plug, easy to get on/off. Also has a lighted side-switch cap to show battery status and charging status.

Distant second would be a Zanflare F1 (Gearbest). Great light overall, and great idea, but the screw-ring covering the charging port is O-ring sealed, can be stiff to screw “on” and “off”, but you also don’t want to leave it open and jingling around. Rear switch has a great snap to it, but might also feel a bit stiff compared to the usual rubber-boot switches out there.

For a non-mom, I’d say the F1 should get some serious consideration, but in this case I’d definitely pick the UT20. Plus, Amazon would deliver it hella fast vs GB.

Good suggestions, thank you.

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Lumintop SD Mini, unless you don’t like your mom then a TacLight Zoomie TV thingy. LOL Just kidding of course. A Zanflare F1 or one I just picked up a Wuben L50 checks all those boxes as well. If you got the extra money a SD Mini really is a great light.

Great looking light, although it doesn’t seem to be in stock anywhere.

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“Moms” and “dads” sometimes need those 1000 lumens, specially when you live in a dark village and you have farm fields, and sometimes cars and animals pass by!!!

After giving my parents a 3xAAA Zoomie, I then passed to them my Nitefox UT20 and so far it has been well used and reliable enough for them to go outside and check the animals, the backyard and all that stuff.

In my opinion, and only comparing the UT20 and the Zanflare F1, for me the Nitefox takes the lead!

I also wanna recommend another light: Wuben TO4R. Has 2 side switches (1 of them is only for strobe modes), 5 regular modes with memory, it has “those” lumens, has USB charger and is super reliable.

It is sold in High CRI as well, if you contact member _the _ Wink

Thank you for the recommendations. You are exactly correct, sometimes you need 1000 lumens to see out into the field. The Nitefox seems to be a popular option.

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I actually did this last Christmas, and my technophobic mom really loves her Convoy BD01. I got a spare charging cable with it. I went with the 26650, but it would be fine with an 18650.

Personally, I like the BD0* charger better than micro-usb, but usbc might be better overall.

She can shine the light from the dining room table and see deer way up the mountain in the back yard. It completely blows away everything in her old incan collection in light output and build quality. And the switch is reminiscent of a MagLite, so familiar and easy.

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I think there are some threads with similar question recently:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/61356

Basically you’re looking for an EDC-sized flashlight with a micro-USB port for charging…

There are many of them. Some that I know of would be (all have micro-USB port and use a single 18650):

Zanflare F1 ~ 1240 lumens
Wuben L50 ~ 1200 lumens
Fitorch P20R ~ 1000+ lumens
Sofirn SP30A ~ 1000+ lumens
On The Road U18 ~ 900+ lumens
Eagle Eye X2R ~ 700+ lumens
Convoy S9 ~ 500+ lumens

(I think the shortest height of the above is the OTR U18; followed closely by the Convoy S9 & Eagle Eye X2R, the others are a bit longer, with the SP30A being quite long)

Remember, the higher lumens flashlights can get much hotter (and if Mom isn’t careful, could conceivably get burned by the heat; eg. turned on flashlight in Highest/Turbo mode, puts it down on the table or somewhere to do something first [flashlight still on], later picks up the flashlight again, and it’s burning hot due to the high lumens…)

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When I worked through this, the best option I found were either the Convoy C9, or the Eagle Eye X2R.

I would have preferred more output, but I preferred a tube-light for compactness, and was concerned about the thermal issues at 10W.

For a light with better thermals (convoy BDXX, maybe Eagle Eye X6R or X7R), 10W would be no problem.

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I have always hated for someone to ask a question, and someone else answer that they do not want what they ask for. SO, I hate to say this, but I don’t believe people who are not into flashight should have 18650 lights. The potential problems with Li-on batteries would make them unacceptable.
I also don’t think they need 1,000 lumens.
Good quality AA lights would, I believe, do everything Mom needs or wants.

Sorry for the negative, and I’ll take the hit.
Jerry

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toddcshoe wrote:
MG12GT, nice light. A bit pricey. None the less a nice light. The nitefox and the Wuben accomplish the same thing at a third of the price.
I don’t think either of those have as much throw as the MH12GT/P12GT.

Think you are right on that part. That Nitecore does throw pretty well.

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jerm03 wrote:
The potential problems with Li-on batteries would make them unacceptable.

Really? My mom has an iPhone and iPad with Liion batteries and built-in chargers. Should I take those away from her?

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jerm03 wrote:
I have always hated for someone to ask a question, and someone else answer that they do not want what they ask for. SO, I hate to say this, but I don’t believe people who are not into flashight should have 18650 lights. The potential problems with Li-on batteries would make them unacceptable.
I also don’t think they need 1,000 lumens.
Good quality AA lights would, I believe, do everything Mom needs or wants.

Sorry for the negative, and I’ll take the hit.
Jerry

Hi Jerry!
I will not try to make a point here, and in part I understand and agree with what you say, namely safety reasons related to the use of 18650s. Thumbs Up

My parents never used those batteries and actually, that are not using it ! Why? Because the flashlight I gave them has a protected cell inside, because I know what they will use the light for, and because charging on that light is safe (well, we all know issues may occur, but I guess we, flashaholics, are somehow more exposed to those risks that people that may use “safer” options).

Again, about the lumens or the amount of light needed, I guess noone here is in condition to say what other people may need or not.
Specially when the amount of light can bring you some more “safety”.

To give you an example, if the “mom” in question needs a light to walk in a pitch black road or backyard or in other place where the amount of light is capable to let you see in a good distance and wide range, why not want or need to have 1000 lumens or so?

In the city we don’t need that much power if good outdoor illumination is provided, but in a small village without good street illumination, that makes the difference. And there, if we ponder the “safetyness” of using a 18650 (or other Li-Ion battery) VS the safetyness of being able to spot an assailant or animal…I’d prefer to see those coming than bothering with a battery or charging issue.

Things must be seen under different perspectives! Wink

These are the type of roads I have around in the village and difference it makes when you have a 3500 lumens flashlight to walk around. 1000 lumens would be good, but not enough so…we all need different things Wink And the lights being mentioned here are not “hotrods” Beer

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Could possibly look at the Olight offerings with the magnetic charger

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ChrisGarrett wrote:
'Moms' don't generally need 1000LM li-ion lights. They just need lights that they can click to see what's in front of them, while in the dark. AA lights are probably the easiest for 'moms', unless your mom is some 'survival expert'. If she needs some 1000LM USB light, then something from Fenix, NiteCore, or others would be the suggestion, given the budget. Moms want reliability. Chris

 

Her most appreciated and used is a Fenix HL50, AA. Previous to that, she had an S2 and a good quality P60 type with protected Sanyos.

That was a few years ago. Today, I'd still go with a 1*AA headlamp but the high output handheld would be a Nitefox UT20.

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ChrisGarrett wrote:
Look at the negative reviews of both of those lights on Amazon, not the good ones.

That’s what I want my mom to have when things go dark, lol.

Unno, I got 4-5 F1s, EDCed one for quite a while, got 2 UT20s and am still EDCing one. No problems at all.

Especially since skeeter season started, I’ve been using the ’20 full-tilt quite a bit.

I don’t trust Amazon reviews much anyway. Clearly, when looking at SK98s (18650) and you see reviews describing SK68s (AA/14500), or v/v, it’s apparent they mix’n‘match reviews.

Any 5×5050 194-type “bulbs”, you’ll see described white, amber, red, CW, WW, different mfrs, you name it. Like, whut’s the point?

Not too long ago, I went through all my F1 boxes (unlabeled CW vs WW except for the barcode thingy on the bottom) to make sure what was what, and physically tried all of them again. No issues.

I was gonna gift a few, ‘til I heard all the oohing and aahing for Tac-Lights. Facepalm

Forget it…

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Coupla more suggestions, just to throw out there…

Convoy S9 is kinda throttled down, so it won’t turn into a curling-iron if left on high. I think it has a charger, not sure.

The Folomovs except for the Camp D4 (guess which one I got…) have built-in charging and ostensibly can be used as a power-bank in a pinch.

The plain white Xiauomi (oh, Hell, somebody fix the spelling…) doodad is also throttled down like the S9, but has a rotary selector-head to “switch gears”.

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Hi, MascaratumB,

I appreciate the information, and I agree that unless one knows the details he cannot know the need. Having lived in small towns and dark dirt roads I can appreciate the need for 1,000 lumens.
Regards, Jerry

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For close-in, a nice cheap Boruit RJ02 with swapped 60° TIR lens would be perfect.

Then just worry about a thrower…

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Lightbringer wrote:
For close-in, a nice cheap Boruit RJ02 with swapped 60° TIR lens would be perfect.

Then just worry about a thrower…

This was my choice since we are talking about only one light and usb rechargable . a headlamp probably makes more sense than any other single light except maybe a keychain light. i’d forget about swapping an optic and just add a decent strength magnet and sell it as a right angle flashlight with a headband option.only other thing i’d do is make sure it had a brand new INRor LMR cell in it . The problem with the question is ..Who’s mom are we talking about . I’m old so my mom is way more un-tech savvy then your average 20 year olds mom who is 38 , wearing hot pants and a tube-top,smoking a lucky strike while taking selfies on her phone .

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