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Yes, there’s no ramping from moon. Yep, I find this lacking/annoying, but the lowest setting of ramping is pretty low, but not as low as moon. The annoying thing is if you last turned off the light at a high setting, you are gonna get blasted by that high setting, either from a power startup or click to get back into ramping. You can still access moon mode of course independently, but if you want to get back into ramping, you’ll get blasted by the last set high level. [snip]

Man that really sucks. I’m having the same problem with the SC26’s I mentioned earlier. The immediate blast to the last used level has made them both shelf queens Tired

Maybe Sofrin can change the firmware for the BLF edition??? If not, I guess I’ll be learning how to flash firmware soon…

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Was I dreaming, or did Sofirn in the last few days send an offer for discounts on a lot of lights and invite us to share it to friends, something about mentioning “group 4” or words to that effect?

I know some public service folks who’ve been interested in the Sofirn lights I routinely carry when doing volunteer work, and want to pass the info on.

Pointer or cc welcome if anyone recognizes this. I don’t find it among PMs, nor in email, nor in browser history.

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hank wrote:
Was I dreaming, or did Sofirn in the last few days send an offer for discounts on a lot of lights and invite us to share it to friends, something about mentioning “group 4” or words to that effect?

I know some public service folks who’ve been interested in the Sofirn lights I routinely carry when doing volunteer work, and want to pass the info on.

Pointer or cc welcome if anyone recognizes this. I don’t find it among PMs, nor in email, nor in browser history.

I got something like this in email. Looked kinda weird so I didn’t pay much attention.

EDIT: PM me with email and i will forward on to you.

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hank wrote:
Was I dreaming, or did Sofirn in the last few days send an offer for discounts on a lot of lights and invite us to share it to friends, something about mentioning “group 4” or words to that effect?

I know some public service folks who’ve been interested in the Sofirn lights I routinely carry when doing volunteer work, and want to pass the info on.

Pointer or cc welcome if anyone recognizes this. I don’t find it among PMs, nor in email, nor in browser history.


It is legit, got it the 19th from Cissy, I’ve received a few from Cissy in the past, the guys at work bought a few of the BLF-Q8’s.

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Anyone found any tricks to increase output on the SP70 yet? Resistors, heavier gauge wires and etc? Just curious, I know it’s coming. I would love an SMO reflector just to see what it would do.

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It seems like people forget that this light was designed ground up as a hot rod, it’s essentially already modded by Sofirn with the assistance of BLF. While there may be some slight gains to be had it’s not necessary to work on the light at all… which was the point in talking a Mfr. into making this kind of light for BLF.

This is exactly why I don’t really offer modding services, no matter how hard I work on a light somebody always wants to take it apart and change something. So I don’t do it. If they’re capable of making changes to my mods they can do the mods themselves. This kind of deal was put together so people that don’t mod can have the benefits of a tweaked design, the optimizations of what we as modders do but straight out of the box. Of course modders will still mod it, for some folks it’s just what they do (I know this all too well) but again, it isn’t necessary and the potential gains are minimal without going to extremes.

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teacher][quote=DB Custom wrote:
It seems like people forget that this light was designed ground up as a hot rod, it’s essentially already modded by Sofirn with the assistance of BLF. While there may be some slight gains to be had it’s not necessary to work on the light at all… which was the point in talking a Mfr. into making this kind of light for BLF.

This is exactly why I don’t really offer modding services, no matter how hard I work on a light somebody always wants to take it apart and change something. So I don’t do it. If they’re capable of making changes to my mods they can do the mods themselves. This kind of deal was put together so people that don’t mod can have the benefits of a tweaked design, the optimizations of what we as modders do but straight out of the box. Of course modders will still mod it, for some folks it’s just what they do (I know this all too well) but again, it isn’t necessary and the potential gains are minimal without going to extremes.

Looks like the teacher has schooled me. Very well. I will just change the emmiter to the tint I like the most. ☺

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I didn’t “school you”, I just figured you had missed DB Customs post. Wink

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I didn’t “school you”, I just figured you had missed DB Customs post. Wink

No harm meant or taken. I just kinda look at it as, that’s just what a lot of us do. Like the Q8, people just upgraded a few things to get a little more output so I assumed someone had already started working on “ upgrading “ so to speak. I took the tail switch out of my L6 and put in the SP70 and got another 150 lux on my meter. It has BlueSwordM’s springs with a bypass on it, but I switched it back. Just wanted to see the difference. Which visually you would never be able to see. Just numbers at this point.

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HONDARIDER wrote:
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I didn't "school you", I just figured you had missed DB Customs post. ;)
No harm meant or taken. I just kinda look at it as, that's just what a lot of us do. Like the Q8, people just upgraded a few things to get a little more output so I assumed someone had already started working on " upgrading " so to speak. I took the tail switch out of my L6 and put in the SP70 and got another 150 lux on my meter. It has BlueSwordM's springs with a bypass on it, but I switched it back. Just wanted to see the difference. Which visually you would never be able to see. Just numbers at this point.

Yep, there's some room for improvements. My previous posts (post #1951) documented a gain with spring bypass's, plus you could swap the driver for a 30 mm one which we have for replacing the L6 stock driver, etc. Also if you stay with the stock driver, could swap the FET with an Infineon for example. You should get some boosts.

As Dale said though, it's a pretty good "BLF" caliber light to begin with, great for non-modders to get a mod level light, or can be additionally tweaked by modders, just like we did with the Q8's for example.

I'm thinking/guessing it's about a 5700K LED - wish I could test for that. I have spare P2 5700K's, but I'd prefer a 4000K myself, so think I'll order them from Arrow since the P2 4000K's are so cheap.

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A note for batteries: In my area, the local Batteries Plus Bulbs chain does tack welding of cells. While they can't attach two lithium cells together, they can add "nipples" (aka button-tops) to a flat-top cell in this style, given they have a nipple that fits and all that. Since I can't find the button-top Shockli 5500mAh anymore (I got two from Mtn for my L6, but now he has flat-tops), I'm going to get flat-tops and have this done for $0.50/batt. 

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Solder blob'n is soooo easy, and only needed on one of the cells, plus lower resistance than typical button tops. I did a few cells the other day, no problems. Just say'n...

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teacher wrote:
I didn’t “school you”, I just figured you had missed DB Customs post. Wink
No harm meant or taken. I just kinda look at it as, that’s just what a lot of us do. Like the Q8, people just upgraded a few things to get a little more output so I assumed someone had already started working on “ upgrading “ so to speak. I took the tail switch out of my L6 and put in the SP70 and got another 150 lux on my meter. It has BlueSwordM’s springs with a bypass on it, but I switched it back. Just wanted to see the difference. Which visually you would never be able to see. Just numbers at this point.

Yep, there’s some room for improvements. My previous posts (post #1951) documented a gain with spring bypass’s, plus you could swap the driver for a 30 mm one which we have for replacing the L6 stock driver, etc. Also if you stay with the stock driver, could swap the FET with an Infineon for example. You should get some boosts.


As Dale said though, it’s a pretty good “BLF” caliber light to begin with, great for non-modders to get a mod level light, or can be additionally tweaked by modders, just like we did with the Q8’s for example.


I’m thinking/guessing it’s about a 5700K LED – wish I could test for that. I have spare P2 5700K’s, but I’d prefer a 4000K myself, so think I’ll order them from Arrow since the P2 4000K’s are so cheap.

The N4 is even cheaper at around $6.50 each. I bought several a couple months back. Output may be down slightly from the P2 but I’m not sure it will be extremely noticeable.

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I wasn’t saying the SP70 shouldn’t be modded, if that’s your thing then by all means, mod away. I was merely reminding some of the interested parties that it doesn’t need it. Modders know what can be done, part of the fun is finding out where the gains are, if there are any. Chop it, swap emitter style completely, Cerakote it… Silly

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Solder blob'n is soooo easy, and only needed on one of the cells, plus lower resistance than typical button tops. I did a few cells the other day, no problems. Just say'n...

In my L6, I actually rotate the cells, as the top cell sees a fair bit more heat Wink So I would want two cells button-top'd

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Got mine..cant wait to get home..

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Mine is at the Post Office to be delivered tomorrow (Wed)

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cool. package sent to Jason will arrive soon too.

pictures and video of SP70 sharing is welcome!

Guess it’s time to talk about a BLF version. maybe: retaining ring, smooth reflector, different tint, no switch tail cap, Anduril firmware? Big Smile

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Retaining ring? By all means, YES!!! Please stop using glue! Big Smile

SMO reflector? Oh yeah...isn't that what we ever wanted from the very beginning? Wink Maybe there's a chance to test a bit about the correct alignment of the LED on the z-axis? If you put the XHP70.2 less deep into the reflector aperture you might loose a bit of lumens but you will probably avoid the ugly tint shift "fried egg" effect as the blue light coming out sideways of the LED will not hit the reflector surface.

Different tint? That's for sure. I guess many of us would prefer a warmer tint between 4.000K and 5.000K, someting like 3D (4.885K) would be just fine to me.

No switch tail cap and Andúril? As Andúril will not (yet) work with tactical tailswitch lights it might be a nice option to offer it as side-switch only or maybe to put enough efforts in it to adapt Andúril fully working with both switches.

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Retaining ring? By all means, YES!!! Please stop using glue! Big Smile


SMO reflector? Oh yeah…isn’t that what we ever wanted from the very beginning? Wink Maybe there’s a chance to test a bit about the correct alignment of the LED on the z-axis? If you put the XHP70.2 less deep into the reflector aperture you might loose a bit of lumens but you will probably avoid the ugly tint shift “fried egg” effect as the blue light coming out sideways of the LED will not hit the reflector surface.


Different tint? That’s for sure. I guess many of us would prefer a warmer tint between 4.000K and 5.000K, someting like 3D (4.885K) would be just fine to me.


No switch tail cap and Andúril? As Andúril will not (yet) work with tactical tailswitch lights it might be a nice option to offer it as side-switch only or maybe to put enough efforts in it to adapt Andúril fully working with both switches.

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We need a BLF edition for sure. As much as I want a SP70, I would rather wait to purchase a BLF edition.

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I have 2 of the current SP70’s, guess I will have to buy another “BLF Version”. I’m sure there will be plenty of time to save for it.

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Well, if they make the SMO reflector available as a separate buy, then I'm good to go with the original. Anduril requires a driver change - that may be a major issue. Like I said before, they appear to have a superior design to our conventional FET+7135's, but they use a PIC controller and not an ATMEL ATTiny, so not sure what it would take to get Anduril (or NarsilM) ported - might be something like DEL's buck driver support we did for the GT, not sure, should be do-able though I would think.

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Mine is now ordered from Amazon US with a code (thank you Sofirn). As mentioned previously in the thread, PM Sofirn to get a code. 

For the BLF Special, my preference would be for NarsilM/Anduril with the rear switch, serving as a lockout switch. My L6 has rear-switch lockout as well, though with D4 firmware.

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Can’t wait to get mine and post pics. I am tempted to get a BLF edition, but I just overdosed on throwers, lol.

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I'm really tempted to simply hand wire in a ATtiny85 and see if I can get NarsilM working. I see two output channels - the FET and the 3 legged part, like a regulator but don't know the specs of the part. I've done this before with a 1 channel driver and got it working, just had to sacrifice the reverse polarity protection diode:

  

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Can’t wait to get mine and post pics. I am tempted to get a BLF edition, but I just overdosed on throwers, lol.

I would not call this light a thrower. The hot spot is big and lights up a large area.

If this size light had a smaller xhp35-HI in it, then I would call it a thrower.

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Exactly Jason, we get all excited about brute forcing some lumens down range but in reality, even a small dedicated thrower can reach a lot further. The big die is at a huge disadvantage that way. Wink

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I had this light out the other night - it's scary in the neighborhood. The wide spill can light up a house 200 feet away like daylight, then the spot lights up a huge area with an intensity that's insane. 900+ meters is a thrower to many, but being that the spill and hot spot are so wide, it does a lot more than throw.

I recall the debates over the L6 being a thrower or not, while this light throws better with more total output, wider spot and spill. Well, it sure ain't a flooder.

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