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I wait for night and I try them.
Convoy L6 new vs SP70 Evil

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Coman wrote:
I wait for night and I try them. Convoy L6 new vs SP70 Evil

Make sure to post beam shots!

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I have nothing to take pictures of.
I have a phone (2016 flagship with android), but she does not see it very well. I would need someone with a tripod or take the pictures while I use the torch.
I’ll try if I find someone.

I finished testing:
-SP70 is, in my opinion, about 15-20% stronger in the distance and has more lumens than the Convoy L6 new (xhp70.2 + SMO). It’s a great flashlight for this price. I mean I can see it with her. I can not say how many meters, but a convoy building I could not see it well, just the roof shone a bit, while the SP70 lightens the whole building.

Excuse my bad English.

*As a small summary:
-Convoy L6 NEW wins the Thorfire S70s (I sold Thorfire)
-SP 70 wins the Convoy. :)*

Unfortunately, it did not come in perfect condition, it still has small defects, probably it was hit (but not during transport). She had a lot of dust on it. Packaging is not ok, the Astrolux lanterns are packed more nicely Smile
I’ll be back tomorrow if I have time with pictures.

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Also remember that the SP70 uses a FET driver so the batteries effect performance. High drain batteries will give the best output.

With L6 and S70S the type of battery makes very little difference.

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The SP70 has some bloody modes. I have to keep pushing to go to another level, or when I stop it many times I start my turbo. I’m not happy with this. Thorphire and Convoy have much better ways.
I like the moon mode Smile

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I would like to see the BLF SP70 with either Narsil or Anduril

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Coman wrote:
The SP70 has some bloody modes.

I’m not sure what this means. I always prefer ramping mode, have you tried that one yet?

You can’t please everyone with a single UI, so they made 2 different UI in one light. Hopefully it pleases the most people. Still not perfect, though. Narsil would be great, but if they use Anduril I hope they can tweak the code for instant off.

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I liked the K70 project because it was going to be a beefed up/heavy duty light with a great ergonomic form factor:

The XHP 70 produced a lot of lumens out the front.

The larger head allows for a very usable mix of flood and throw.

The 26650 battery tube just seems to fit well in my hand and gives good run times.

So let’s take these strengths to the next level:

3 x XHP 70.2 or 50.2 (like a larger C8F)

3 × 26650 battery tube, thick wall, heavy knurling, extended run times

Oversized heat sink, wide spacing between fins for better airflow/heat dissipation.

I think this would be a winner!

Yes, yes, yes and yes again!

3 × 26650 makes for a very nice, weighty “maglite” kind of feel. And with something this size you may as well then have lots of LED’s for a lot of lumens.

This would make for a great light!

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Oh wow, that’s large. My L6 is big enough to serve Maglite duty, especially with the tactical/cigar grip ring left on the bottom.

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I’m interested in a BLF edition of the SP70, hopefully with Anduril. After reading through some of this thread, it seems like people are having problems with flat top cells. If you order the kit does it come with flat tops? Sounds like it needs button tops.

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I’m interested in a BLF edition of the SP70, hopefully with Anduril. After reading through some of this thread, it seems like people are having problems with flat top cells. If you order the kit does it come with flat tops? Sounds like it needs button tops.

Since batteries touch end to end you have to make sure your cells can touch. Some flat top work and some don’t. The batteries packaged with the SP70 do touch. Their high drain cells have button tops added. Their normal cells have tall flat tops.

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I had a chance to compare a bunch of flashlights including the new Jetbeam TH20 that runs on a single 21700 and the Acebeam K65 CW. Out of the numerous flashlights I have tried out over the last 2 years, the Sofirn SP70 is my favorite. 2 × 26650 is way better than 1 × 21700. It’s easier to grasp and clasp than a 4 × 18650. I was so impressed, I have ordered a second SP70 Kit from Sofirn’s new website.

Fingers crossed!

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the4ds9 wrote:
I had a chance to compare a bunch of flashlights including the new Jetbeam TH20 that runs on a single 21700 and the Acebeam K65 CW. Out of the numerous flashlights I have tried out over the last 2 years, the Sofirn SP70 is my favorite. 2 × 26650 is way better than 1 × 21700. It’s easier to grasp and clasp than a 4 × 18650. I was so impressed, I have ordered a second SP70 Kit from Sofirn’s new website.
Considering output and overall quality, looks like the SP70 is a good deal. I really like the beam profile, which looks superior to similar competitor models. The UI is a little strange, but not complicated. Short press + hold to enter moonlight is a little odd. Otherwise, I like the options. Is the rear switch a physical lockout? Or is there parasitic drain with it off?
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The UI is a little strange, but not complicated. Short press + hold to enter moonlight is a little odd. Otherwise, I like the options. Is the rear switch a physical lockout? Or is there parasitic drain with it off?

You can ramp down to moonlight if you want. Or you can keep your preset brightness level by using the press and hold. This allows you to switch between 3 different brightness levels and not loose your memorized level.

The tail switch is mechanical so no parasitic drain at all when used.

It memorizes your preset level when off and the tail switch can allow it to turn on at that level.

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The UI is a little strange, but not complicated. Short press + hold to enter moonlight is a little odd. Otherwise, I like the options. Is the rear switch a physical lockout? Or is there parasitic drain with it off?

You can ramp down to moonlight if you want. Or you can keep your preset brightness level by using the press and hold. This allows you to switch between 3 different brightness levels and not loose your memorized level.

The tail switch is mechanical so no parasitic drain at all when used.

It memorizes your preset level when off and the tail switch can allow it to turn on at that level.

Thanks, Jason. Good to hear the tail cap switch does provide a mechanical lockout. Looks like moonlight is 2 lumens, which isn’t very dim relative to what Anduril & NarsilM provide, but for a thrower like this I guess it’s to be expected. Overall, an impressive search light.

What do you think of it compared to the Convoy L6?

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xevious wrote:

Thanks, Jason. Good to hear the tail cap switch does provide a mechanical lockout. Looks like moonlight is 2 lumens, which isn’t very dim relative to what Anduril & NarsilM provide, but for a thrower like this I guess it’s to be expected. Overall, an impressive search light.

What do you think of it compared to the Convoy L6?


It is way better than a stock L6. Better UI, higher output, etc… It was basically designed to be an affordable version of a modded L6. I spent over $100 for my L6, Lexel driver, xhp70.2 on DTP mcpcb plus did the labor myself. So the SP70 is a bargain in that respect. Especially if you have to pay someone to mod an L6 for you.

I used my L6 everyday at work, but the led finally started showing problems due to all the Turbo runs. Sometimes only 2 dies light up. I havent fixed it yet. I started using the SP70 and it’s pretty much as good. I like that it keeps the memorized level even when power is removed. I tend to go to Turbo then ramp it down like 1 second. It looks slightly less bright, but the amperage is way lower. I get good runtimes from that. The SP70 always remembers my setting. I wish that feature could be put in NarsilM.

My only real criticism is it’s hard to find the switch by feel. I can feel the L6 switch easier for some reason. The SP70 does have a tiny turn on/off delay like Anduril. I really prefer instant on/off like NarsilM, but I got used to it. No biggie.

I may be a bit biased as I helped in the design, but I think it’s a great light that a lot of folks have not heard of.

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^ Good to know — thanks, Jason! Beer

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I’ve got an L6 and an SP70, both with the 70.2 LED.
The SP70 is way nicer. Noticeably more output.
The SP70 can be turned off using the side switch. The L6 can’t.
Far better, IMHO, for usefulness in the field.
Both have the Green Meanies to some degree. Would love better color with the same output.

The Sp70 is larger and heaver. Something to take into account.
Anything that size or larger needs a strap option for long term carry.

The SP70 has a strap attachment point on the head, just in front of the switch area.
If you use a ring in the attachment point, and the included strap.
The only place the attachment clip and strap to fold to is right over the switch.
Blocking it from being used.
That attachment point should be move way out onto the head area to prevent this from happening

I love to see a light using 4×21700s in a side by side arrangement. 2S -2P.
The double barrel shape would index well in the hand.
Several Fenix lights have used this shape over the years.

As much as I like the Q8, 4×18650 is too big to hold comfortably.
The SP36 with 3×1685 is much more hand friendly.

I wonder how slim a 3×21700 could be made.
Maybe scallop out the area between cells. Like the cylinder of a revolver.
A better grip, and you loose all that metal to make the light – lighter.

For S&R, you need both reach (to looking about) and a good wide spill to see what’s at your feet.
For this type of use, I prefer stepped output levels – as long as they are properly spaced.
Ramping in tense situations doesn’t work for me.

Just some thoughts.
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Jeff

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jeff51 wrote:

As much as I like the Q8, 4×18650 is too big to hold comfortably.
The SP36 with 3×18650 is much more hand friendly.

I wonder how slim a 3×21700 could be made.


Outer diameter of 4×18650 is 44mm
Outer diameter of 3×21700 is 46mm

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Hello as they are, it’s been a long time since I asked in the forum, every once in a while I go to see the news, for some reason I had not seen this light of sofirn, I had thorfire s70 and I gave it away I keep my convoy l6 with a standard modification of the controller and by pass in the springs, it remains solid as a rock, now the question is, this SP70 how much scope of factory does it have (candles), is there any basic mod on the controller? regards!!!
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Hello as they are, it’s been a long time since I asked in the forum, every once in a while I go to see the news, for some reason I had not seen this light of sofirn, I had thorfire s70 and I gave it away I keep my convoy l6 with a standard modification of the controller and by pass in the springs, it remains solid as a rock, now the question is, this SP70 how much scope of factory does it have (candles), is there any basic mod on the controller? regards!!!

I am not sure what your asking, but I’ll give you the basics. This has a xhp70.2 NW or CW and the driver is a FET design for very high output. Depending on battery it will draw 12 to 13 amp at 1 second and about 11 amp at 30 seconds. I measure about 5000 to 6000 lumen at turn on and 30 seconds. My lumens might be a bit low as others measure more. Throw distance of 860 meters (185Kcd). The user interface I prefer is smooth ramping. One click of side switch for on/off. It has another mode of preset levels if you prefer. So it should be brighter, throw further and have better UI than your L6 (I assume resistor modded factory driver).

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JasonWW wrote:
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Hello as they are, it’s been a long time since I asked in the forum, every once in a while I go to see the news, for some reason I had not seen this light of sofirn, I had thorfire s70 and I gave it away I keep my convoy l6 with a standard modification of the controller and by pass in the springs, it remains solid as a rock, now the question is, this SP70 how much scope of factory does it have (candles), is there any basic mod on the controller? regards!!!
I am not sure what your asking, but I’ll give you the basics. This has a xhp70.2 NW or CW and the driver is a FET design for very high output. Depending on battery it will draw 12 to 13 amp at 1 second and about 11 amp at 30 seconds. I measure about 5000 to 6000 lumen at turn on and 30 seconds. My lumens might be a bit low as others measure more. Throw distance of 860 meters (185Kcd). The user interface I prefer is smooth ramping. One click of side switch for on/off. It has another mode of preset levels if you prefer. So it should be brighter, throw further and have better UI than your L6 (I assume resistor modded factory driver).

Hello jackson, if it is what you wanted to know, 185.000cd is a good number for a flashlight of this type, is there any modification for your controller? thanks for answering!

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Hello as they are, it’s been a long time since I asked in the forum, every once in a while I go to see the news, for some reason I had not seen this light of sofirn, I had thorfire s70 and I gave it away I keep my convoy l6 with a standard modification of the controller and by pass in the springs, it remains solid as a rock, now the question is, this SP70 how much scope of factory does it have (candles), is there any basic mod on the controller? regards!!!
I am not sure what your asking, but I’ll give you the basics. This has a xhp70.2 NW or CW and the driver is a FET design for very high output. Depending on battery it will draw 12 to 13 amp at 1 second and about 11 amp at 30 seconds. I measure about 5000 to 6000 lumen at turn on and 30 seconds. My lumens might be a bit low as others measure more. Throw distance of 860 meters (185Kcd). The user interface I prefer is smooth ramping. One click of side switch for on/off. It has another mode of preset levels if you prefer. So it should be brighter, throw further and have better UI than your L6 (I assume resistor modded factory driver).

Hello jason, if it is what you wanted to know, 185.000cd is a good number for a flashlight of this type, is there any modification for your controller? thanks for answering!


Mine is all stock. It uses double springs on both ends. You might get more output if you add wire bypasses.

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