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Looks really good.

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I really hope turbo mode can be memorized and is in the mode sequence.
Because this is a light I would purchase….

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blueb8llz wrote:
I really hope turbo mode can be memorized and is in the mode sequence. Because this is a light I would purchase….

yes, it is memorized

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blueb8llz wrote:
I really hope turbo mode can be memorized and is in the mode sequence.
Because this is a light I would purchase….

Description of the UI, from their website:
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How to operate the light? (NarsilM Version 1.2)

By Default Ramping:

Single click switches lamp ON ; Single click switches lamp OFF. Click followed by long hold =starts from moon and ramps up Long Hold the switch = ramps up or ramps down 2x clicks =full max brightness level 3x clicks = battery check 4x clicks= lock out on/off (4x short blinks) 5x clicks= momentary

Reset to factory in Ramping

The lamp can be OFF or ON:

3x , 2x , 2x, press&hold (for 1.2sec) till 4 blinks

If you use ramping UI only , do not hold the button for over 8 sec, it will enter configuration setting. If you enter the configuration setting by mistake, do not do any clicks, long holding the button will quit the setting.

To Enter further configuration setting , please read the paper manual carefully.

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Thanks for the test results. This is the first time I see this test from a flashlight manufacturer Thumbs Up
I plugged in the X & Y values for the 219B 4500k and got a DUV of -0.0106 and the for the XPLHI version and got 0.0023.
https://www.waveformlighting.com/tech/calculate-duv-from-cie-1931-xy-coo...

The 219B 4500k will be very rosy magenta, which is what the 219B 4500k is known for so seems legit!

BTW, I thought I saw a picture showing an all silver version but I don’t see it any more. Not sure if my memory is playing tricks on me. But I’m going to get the gold one with the 219B 4500k.

Those lumen ratings puts this one even above the legendary Noctigon Meteor M43, which is pretty incredible considering it is run on 3-cells vs 4-cells on the M43. We just need some runtime graphs from someone like Maukka Wink

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1.5meter integrate sphere Testing Reports: (powered by 3 pieces of Sony VTC6 18650)

ROT66 Nichia 219B Measure Report
Peak brightness: 5235.68 lumens
Color temperature CCT:4423K
CIR Ra=96.08

ROT66 CREE XPL HI V3 CW Measure Report
Peak brightness: 9660.45 lumens
Color temperature CCT: 6068K
CIR Ra=70.89
!http://www.ff-light.com/image/data/ROT66%20XPL%20CW.jpg!

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Boy, that really looks nice but sorry, not for $98.00.

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Nice light fireflies!

With great emitters of course (but I can do emitters myself), but the form factor, build and looks are great too!

Very desirable Love

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Gebe wrote:
Boy, that really looks nice but sorry, not for $98.00.

The super popular Noctigon Meteor came out at $128 for the XPG2 emitters and doesn’t even make as much lumens as this one. Their XP-L Hi version cost $180 for people who wanted to squeeze more lumens out of the M43. $98 is not a bad price at all considering how well it performs (on paper at least). This is the brightest 3 cell flashlight I’ve seen, has Narsil UI, and very attractive premium look. High quality, well designed products cost more money than run of the mill bargain products. That’s why iphones cost more than other phones because of heavy R&D cost and premium materials.

People always want highest quality and the best of everything yet don’t want to pay for it. High quality products are more expensive to produce and manufacturers develop products to sell for profit not for charity.

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Gebe wrote:
Boy, that really looks nice but sorry, not for $98.00.

$98 is well out of my budget for a single flashlight (for now Silly ) but assuming it is as promised, it seems like good value when compared against similar lights.

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i am very interested

find all available items in this list

i launched my new blog - all deals for members without MAP B$ Wink

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I def want a Nichia version! I placed an order for one.

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SKV89 wrote:
Thanks for the test results. This is the first time I see this test from a flashlight manufacturer Thumbs Up
I plugged in the X & Y values for the 219B 4500k and got a DUV of -0.0106 and the for the XPLHI version and got 0.0023.
https://www.waveformlighting.com/tech/calculate-duv-from-cie-1931-xy-coo...

The 219B 4500k will be very rosy magenta, which is what the 219B 4500k is known for so seems legit!

219Bs are normally a little rosy, but this is the sw45k tint bin, which is very rosy, plus R9080 CRI bin, which is better than the usual R9050.

This is a very rare emitter. I’m surprised and pleased to see it offered on the first product from a new manufacturer, especially along with Narsil firmware. I’m really curious as to who’s behind this company and what their ties are to the flashlight community. One does not come out of nowhere and design a light like this.

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Yep I wonder the same thing. It is like a flashlight lover’s dream light come true but coming from an unheard of brand. I also wonder where they get the ultra rare 9080 219B nichias that is not available anywhere besides from Clemence in limited quantities.

I ordered the 219B version with gold. This will render my Astrolux MF01 and Noctigon M43 obsolete.

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Tint looks very nice Big SmileBig Smile

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The flashlight is beautiful. When the group buy at a better price, i buy the flashlight.

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SKV89 wrote:
Yep I wonder the same thing. It is like a flashlight lover’s dream light come true but coming from an unheard of brand. I also wonder where they get the ultra rare 9080 219B nichias that is not available anywhere besides from Clemence in limited quantities.

I ordered the 219B version with gold. This will render my Astrolux MF01 and Noctigon M43 obsolete.

The M43 is at least constant current with its boost driver so there is something unique there.

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I did not hear anyone mention this,,,unless I missed it.

I went on the website and noticed.

$98 for Nichia 219B-V1

+ $20 for XPL HI CW

+ $25 for XPL HI NW

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charles lin wrote:
Tint looks very nice Big SmileBig Smile !https://i.imgur.com/Xln9KXS.jpg!

How did you get it so soon or is this from another flashlight?

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SKV89 wrote:
charles lin wrote:
Tint looks very nice Big SmileBig Smile !https://i.imgur.com/Xln9KXS.jpg!

How did you get it so soon or is this from another flashlight?


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Neal has gotten his today and he likes it Wink

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to you who ordered, did it indicate how long the shipping would take?

Also, do people really like ‘VERY ROSY’??? Doesn’t work for me, guess I prefer the cheap emitters Sad

this thread should grow…..

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Oh no, another Chinese company with the word “Fire” in it. Big Smile

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The owner of Fireflies is the same as Enogear. The paypal payment went to the same person as the two Enogear purchases I made. For those that never heard of it, here’s a thread regarding the Enogear Stainless Steel AA/14500 flashlight that is well loved here. I bought one too but unfortunately mine along with a few others reported their Enogear AA/14500 got fried by using 14500. Jackie hopefully has my replacement in transit right now, which he promised me. Otherwise, the Enogear Stainless Steel was much better than expected for the price (nice rosy tint also).
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57964

If shipping is the same as Enogear, then it is slow like a turtle. Expect 1.5 to 2 months for it to arrive.

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nice looking light, can’t wait until someone from BLF make a review of it

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saypat wrote:
Also, do people really like ‘VERY ROSY’??? Doesn’t work for me, guess I prefer the cheap emitters Sad

Some people do like that, yes. I have a couple of these emitters, and while I don’t want every flashlight to be that way, I enjoy it.

I’d like to see another high-CRI option for those who don’t enjoy that. The Samsung LH351D would be a good choice.

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The driver design is from me, also was heavily involved to get NarsilM running on it, a lot of practical problems for fireflies to get it done in mass production
I did not even count the hours communicating over Skype explain things, troubleshoot ect.

There has been a lot of work getting it done, lots of problems like with a big loacal distributor for Microchips delivered fake ATTiny85s
To keep problems like this not happening again all parts for driver were ordered from Arrow in the USA

Final product looks promising

the best MOSFET I could find going through specs of different manufactories is used
the same Infineon MOSFET for best performane I use on all my drivers after the SIR404
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Basically the MOSFET is like none existent even down to low battery voltages the resistance keeps extremly low, 1.2mOhms at 3.5V

Lower modes are current controlled with AMC7135s the good claw type

I tried everything I could do over Skype to get the flashing issue fixed, on a picture the markings on the Attiny made me suspicious,

to get the problem dealt quicker Fireflies sent me a prototype driver and LED board with DHL Express, flashing did not work so I cut it off and made makros of it,
definately does not look original

As I was sure an original Attiny85 worked great, so I build a few and send them back with Express for the first prototypes

Production

Some product pictures with first prototype

They went for SS Bezel and Tail even if the production costs are higher, pretty unique as far as I know
The center 2mm rod of the carrier got removed even if its in the design there, has no real practical advantage

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So it’s current controlled for the lower modes with 7135 chips, meaning the 9 emitters are parallel? And do you know what the max current controlled output is for the 219B? Awesome you’re working on this project! Cool

Edit: Ugh, of course it’s 9 x parallel; it’s FET with 3 cells parallel. And max current controlled output is something like ~1500 lumens I think.

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Knowing the driver was designed by Lexel, I’ll probably buy more later! Can’t wait to receive mine!

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Any chance of a clear anodized version?

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Nice work Lexel!!!

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