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@Fireflies: could you tell us how to unscrew the glued driver retaining ring without damage, please?!
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It was very difficult to open. The thread has been damaged and is no longer correct. It helped me to drill the holes deeper. As far as possible no pressure should be exerted from above to avoid damaging the thread.I used needle nose pliers, spanner and vise.
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ToyKeeper wrote:
A strap wrench won’t work on the driver retaining ring.

That part probably doesn’t need glue at all. Usually the point of a retaining ring is to avoid the need for glue.

Exactly!
One problem are the conical holes in the retaining ring which I cannot grip well with a mounting tool. Therefore I’m not able to apply much force.
This is my most expensive stock light up to now and I don’t like to damage it. If Fireflies doesn’t help I finally will drill additional holes for better grip and use the heatgun but I’m still hoping for their response. Fireflies should know a method for disassembling defective lights – or do they put them in the wastebasket?
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deus1ex wrote:
Flashy Mike wrote:
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@Fireflies: could you tell us how to unscrew the glued driver retaining ring without damage, please?!
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It was very difficult to open. The thread has been damaged and is no longer correct. It helped me to drill the holes deeper. As far as possible no pressure should be exerted from above to avoid damaging the thread.I used needle nose pliers, spanner and vise.
Thanks! Bad news though. I consider this a bad design, the conical holes require pressure from above!

What do you think, Fireflies?

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Flashy Mike wrote:
deus1ex wrote:
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Flashy Mike wrote:
@Fireflies: could you tell us how to unscrew the glued driver retaining ring without damage, please?!
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It was very difficult to open. The thread has been damaged and is no longer correct. It helped me to drill the holes deeper. As far as possible no pressure should be exerted from above to avoid damaging the thread.I used needle nose pliers, spanner and vise.
Thanks! Bad news though. I consider this a bad design, the conical holes require pressure from above!

What do you think, Fireflies?

A hot air gun might have helped. I was not sure if the heat destroyed anything.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
A strap wrench won’t work on the driver retaining ring.

That part probably doesn’t need glue at all. Usually the point of a retaining ring is to avoid the need for glue.

D’oh! I should have read more carefully. I was thinking of the bezel.

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We have a few stock ROT66 with minor machining flaws or scratches available, those lights perform perfectly in function. If anyone have interested, please send me private message or email to ff-light@hotmail.com

Special low price!!

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I noticed on Facebook the other day the ROT66 is now “officially” shipping with Anduril, and the Fireflies site reflects that. Since the firmware status has been up in the air for a little while, can we can a definite confirmation all models (including XP-L) now have Anduril?

I was happy to see there is now a “no glue” ordering option. Does that apply to the driver as well?

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I just got mine a few days ago. How do I check?

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I just got mine a few days ago. How do I check?

Check what?

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Firmware, Anduril or narsilm.

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Has anyone with an order number earlier than #243 received Anduril or a no-glue light? (I ordered a 219b, and asked for those options in the comments before they became standard)

Edit: I got a response; mine will have anduril but be glued. So if anyone wants to know whether theirs will be whatever, compare the order number.

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pooptoast wrote:
Firmware, Anduril or narsilm.

Here is Anduril.

Just try something that is different from NarsilM. If click click hold goes to a blinky mode, it’s Anduril. If 6 fast clicks go to muggle mode, it’s Anduril. Try 3 fast clicks to go to battery check, then 2 fast clicks should be “sunset”. If so it’s Anduril. If it blinks 1.2 or 1.3, then it’s NarsilM. Try cycling through the blinky modes. NarsilM us strobe, alternating strobe, bike light, 2 second beacon then 8 second beacon.

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No, low mode is way too low for the aux LED board to work. It turns off when it senses low voltage, and the “low” mode is far below its “off” threshold.

Anyway, I did some quick measurements. My light box is not calibrated with anything resembling a reputable reference light, so these numbers should not be taken very seriously, but here is what I got at some key levels:

219B version:

  • 115/150: 780 lm (highest regulated mode)
  • 125/150: 1353 lm
  • 130/150: 1822 lm

SST20 4000K:

  • 115/150: 923 lm
  • 125/150: 1485 lm (highest regulated mode)
  • 130/150: 1911 lm

Levels 115 and 125 are the top of the Nx7135 regulated modes, depending on which driver is used (7 or 14 chips).

I included level 130 because it is the “panic” threshold. Above this level, any overheat condition will cause the light to quickly ramp down to level 130. Below this level, it does normal PID regulation to search for a stable level.

Thanks for the info. So these two versions of Anduril are both configured as 3-channel (7135×1, 7135×6 or 13, FET), right? Then may I know the exact level of 7135×1 100% on the two versions? I suppose that level should be also PWM-free and can be pretty useful in some situations…


It will be even better if you are able to upload the ROT66 specific header files to your firmware trunk so I can figure it out myself Wink

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toobadorz wrote:
It will be even better if you are able to upload the ROT66 specific header files to your firmware trunk so I can figure it out myself Wink

I uploaded that a while ago, but it’s in the fsm branch, not yet merged into trunk.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
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It will be even better if you are able to upload the ROT66 specific header files to your firmware trunk so I can figure it out myself Wink

I uploaded that a while ago, but it’s in the fsm branch, not yet merged into trunk.

Got it, many thanks! So level 65 is the 7135×1 100% on both ROT66 versions.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
I uploaded that a while ago, but it’s in the fsm branch, not yet merged into trunk.

When going to the (stepped) ramp ceiling from off directly (two clicks), the light may regulate itself to an even brighter level (because target_level is set to MAX_LEVEL?), especially when the ceiling is set to a lower level and enough cooling is applied. However if you go to the ramp ceiling in the other ways (memorize that level and then recall or simply ramp to that level), then it won’t demonstrate this weird behavior.


Not sure if this is intended, just willing to let you know.

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toobadorz wrote:
When going to the (stepped) ramp ceiling from off directly (two clicks), the light may regulate itself to an even brighter level (because target_level is set to MAX_LEVEL?), especially when the ceiling is set to a lower level and enough cooling is applied. However if you go to the ramp ceiling in the other ways (memorize that level and then recall or simply ramp to that level), then it won’t demonstrate this weird behavior.

Good catch. Fixed.

Hadn’t noticed this during testing, since the ceiling was generally high enough that it would regulate down instead of up. The fix is a tiny patch though, and doesn’t change the code size at all.

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ToyKeeper wrote:

Good catch. Fixed.

Hadn’t noticed this during testing, since the ceiling was generally high enough that it would regulate down instead of up. The fix is a tiny patch though, and doesn’t change the code size at all.


Great!
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Just received my SST20 6500k head replacement for the faulty XPL version.

I measured it at 7000 lumens bang on. The XPL measured around 9000 with 1 LED not working.

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Flashaholics wrote:
Just received my SST20 6500k head replacement for the faulty XPL version.

I measured it at 7000 lumens bang on. The XPL measured around 9000 with 1 LED not working.

Wow, 7000 lumens, that’s high relative to the XP-L. How long can it last in Turbo before kickdown, is the lumens drop/sag quite a lot? eg at 30 sec, 60 secs.

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Got my ROT66 XPL hi today.  I thought, wow, not only nice looking but so light with three batteries.  Then I unscrewed the cap and no batteries lol.  

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klrman wrote:

Got my ROT66 XPL hi today.  I thought, wow, not only nice looking but so light with three batteries.  Then I unscrewed the cap and no batteries lol.  

You should contact fireflies.. they probably forgot . Lol.. I should get my rot66 sst20 today..

Almost take one month to get here..

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Yes I got my rot66 sst20 cw. Took almost one month, but it’s worth the wait.. the light is included with the aux led and narsil v1.2. I heard newer version are shipped with Anduril..

I measured the lumen with TA tube. I got 6800 lumen with samsung 30q, and 7000 lumen with sony vtc5.

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My XPL measures 2,000 lumens more than my SST20 CW and that’s with 1 LED not working, does the SST20 have any advantages over the XPL?

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Flashaholics wrote:
My XPL measures 2,000 lumens more than my SST20 CW and that’s with 1 LED not working, does the SST20 have any advantages over the XPL?

I don’t have a xpl version.. so I can’t answer it.. sst20 is cheap. I paid only $66 with the coupon code..

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Newlumen wrote:
Yes I got my rot66 sst20 cw. Took almost one month, but it’s worth the wait.. the light is included with the aux led and narsil v1.2. I heard newer version are shipped with Anduril..

I measured the lumen with TA tube. I got 6300 lumen..

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Nice. I didn’t get a lanyard or holster with mine. Are they supposed to come with them?

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RobertB wrote:
Newlumen wrote:
Yes I got my rot66 sst20 cw. Took almost one month, but it’s worth the wait.. the light is included with the aux led and narsil v1.2. I heard newer version are shipped with Anduril..

I measured the lumen with TA tube. I got 6300 lumen..

7089605_D-1_E7_B-41_A8-_A14_C-_C009_E041812_D

Nice. I didn’t get a lanyard or holster with mine. Are they supposed to come with them?

I ordered it around September 12th.. i guess it’s all included it, even the aluminum tailcap.

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Flashaholics wrote:
My XPL measures 2,000 lumens more than my SST20 CW and that’s with 1 LED not working, does the SST20 have any advantages over the XPL?

Supposedly the sst20 has a nicer tint with higher CRI, but sacrifices a bit of output compared to the xpl-hi.

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Flashaholics wrote:
My XPL measures 2,000 lumens more than my SST20 CW and that’s with 1 LED not working, does the SST20 have any advantages over the XPL?

The SST-20 throws farther than the XP-L HI
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?449829-Lumintop-GTvn...

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