Novatac 120 Tactical, reprogrammed to 120P

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Novatac 120 Tactical, reprogrammed to 120P

I purchased a Novatac SpaDefense SPL-120 Tactical and spent several hours learning how to reprogram it to a Civilian configuration, equivalent to a Novatac 120P model.

here are the baselines, and what settings change

stock 120 T configuration:
click = 120 (maximum) lumens
double click = 10 lumens
tripple click = .33
from ON, press = Strobe
from OFF, press = maximum lumens (press uses the Primary mode and momentary)
from OFF, click press = Momentary Strobe
from ON, click press release = Strobe
Momentary, mode 7, ON
Ramping, Mode9, OFF

stock 120 P modes
click = 11 lumens (set by using double click hold, to ramp up, cycles through strobe and SOS and minimum)
double click = 30 lumens (set by using double click hold, to ramp up, cycles through strobe and SOS and minimum)
tripple click = .33 (set by using double click hold, to ramp up, cycles through strobe and SOS and minimum)
from ON, press = 120 maximum (this is set from click press from on, then double clic hold rising ramp until maximum, indicated by double flash. release at desired level, click turn off.. press level is saved)
from OFF, press = 11 lumens (this is set by Primary mode)
click press = maximum (set by using double click hold, to ramp up, cycles through strobe and SOS and minimum)
Momentary, mode 7, OFF (triple click hold to get to the 9 step option menu, release, click 6 times, hold till light turns off to toggle setting)
Ramping, Mode9, ON (triple click hold to get to the 9 step option menu, release, click 6 times, hold till light turns off to toggle setting)

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If anyone has a Novatac that is not already programmable, and wants help cracking it, Im willing to help

UV light excites a 219b 4500k 9080:

Ive been reading about the HDS Rotary for a while now. I have never touched an HDS before this Novatac.
Instead of diving in to an HDS Titanium Rotary, I decided to start with this less expensive older version. I wanted to experiment with the mode ramping feature.

I think I would prefer a Rotary, so, if anybody wants this Clicky, PM me for a price quote.

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“If anyone has a Novatac that is not already programmable, and wants help cracking it, Im willing to help”

OR, you could just direct them here! and let them figure it out. This isn’t CPF so you won’t get the ban hammer by posting a link to the other forum.

Anywho, you need to drop a modern emitter in that thing to get the most out of it. Yes, the lows won’t be as low, but you’ll get more light for your milliamps and that’s GREEN!

PS, is that the one that shows up on amazon for cheap where the reviews sometimes say they got anime porn delivered instead? I was always afraid to take the chance.

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Modding this light is not on my radar…

that Novatac Programming link is good, Im the last poster in that thread too.. its a little more than “just” reading the thread though, it takes persistence and too much free time

no this light is not the one that is miscatalogued on Amazon as a Novatac Storm. I did buy that one, and then cancelled and got a refund, when the seller said he sells Adult Videos, and Amazons database has the ASIN number for his product incorrectly listed as a Flashlight.

That one is this link:
https://www.amazon.ca/NovaTac-Storm-LED-Flashlight-Gold/dp/B003DWBSW6
the seller is still selling the video Night Shift Nurses, and as the reviews correctly state, it is not a Flashlight.

Amazon has not fixed the ASIN database error, so the guy sells pornos, with a photo of a flashlight.. apparently its working cause, neither he nor Amazon have decided to pull the link…

IF anybody wants a Locked, Stock, SpaDefense Novatac SPL-120 Tactical, there are some on Ebay atm

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Persistence is right! Miss a beat and start all over. Sad

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some version differences
the SPA I have, with matching body color anodyzed bezel has a weapon mount made in USA


It is slightly different than the model that had a black bezel, that came with the Made in Israel weapons mount, by TDi Arms, which is a California company that also has a site called Israel Defense.

Both have tailcaps with the same USA markings.

3 versions of SPA Novatacs

southernstar wrote:
The Novatac SPL-120 AWLK was made for the US Army. At their request, Novatac removed the 0.3l (3 clicks) setting, and did not make it programmable. It can be hacked using the 250 click back door.

There are also 3 generations Novatac made for the US Army, each with a subtle change at the client’s request.

Gen1 has a steel black-oxide bezel. Programming is 120L@1 click, 10L@2 clicks, Disorienting strobe@ 2click/press-hold

Gen2 has an aluminum bezel anodized to match the body. The Army also requested the head be locked to the battery tube to cut down on “movable parts”. program remains the same.

Gen3 is the same as Gen2, but the bezel was elongated to accommodate a bezel up pocket clip, although no clip was requested or provided in the kit.

Apparently Novatac and their SPA Defense line, was a US company selling the US Govt lights made in China :

Hogokansatsukan wrote:
All of the SPA Defense lights were made in China.

The same happens with the Maratac lights, a California company has them made in China, and sells them to the US Defense Dept.

There is also a Novatac version that looks like a SPA but is labeled 120M and came with a pocket clip:

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One of my favorite lights of all time.

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chadvone wrote:
One of my favorite lights of all time.

which model are you referring to?

here is a bit more Novatac 120M promotional info :

Product Info for Novatac Military Ops High Performance Flashlights

With Novatac 120M-DT Military High Performance Flashlights you’ll be armed and ready with whatever comes at you.

Novatac 120M Flashlight It is one of the lightest, brightest and most rugged flashlights on Earth. Specifically designed for the U.S. Military to meet the demanding conditions encountered during wartime, this powerful and rugged flashlight performs flawlessly even under the toughest and most unforgiving conditions.

Go from map-reading to illuminating potential threats with the press of a button. Momentary maximum mode allows you to produce a quick burst of blinding light, or disorienting strobe light, that can momentarily confuse an attacker.

Just 3.3 in. long and weighing only 3oz., it has a weatherproof body machined from aerospace grade aluminum. Virtually indestructible, the NovaTac 120MDT will perform at peak levels in all situations.

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Store selling a used Storm on Amazon for $14.98 plus $3.99 shipping. If someone is interested, might be worth checking into.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000PHX4P6/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc?i...

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toddcshoe wrote:
Store selling a used Storm on Amazon for $14.98 plus $3.99 shipping. If someone is interested, might be worth checking into.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000PHX4P6/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc?i...


thanks
unfortunately, that one is a porn video listing, not a Novatac light, discussed in post #3 also.

I bought it, read the reviews, contacted the seller, and got a refund.
he claims its Amazon’s database error of the ASIN number that is causing the mistaken link to the Storm

but instead of pulling the listing, he keeps selling porn
and Amazon completely ignored all attempts I made to communicate the problem
Amazon also refused to post my review with the sellers explanation I just gave you

the least expensive Novatac SPA atm is $40 on the bay

here is another listing for a SPA , mislisted as a 120M

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toddcshoe wrote:
Store selling a used Storm on Amazon for $14.98 plus $3.99 shipping. If someone is interested, might be worth checking into.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000PHX4P6/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc?i...


thanks
unfortunately, that one is a porn video listing, not a Novatac light, discussed in post #3 also.

I bought it, read the reviews, contacted the seller, and got a refund.
he claims its Amazon’s database error of the ASIN number that is causing the mistaken link to the Storm

but instead of pulling the listing, he keeps selling porn
and Amazon completely ignored all attempts I made to communicate the problem
Amazon also refused to post my review with the sellers explanation I just gave you

the least expensive Novatac SPA atm is $40 on the bay

here is another listing for a SPA , mislisted as a 120M

My apologies, I wasn’t aware and must have missed that on post 3. Figured it was too good to be true.

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all good,
helps keep everybody on their toes

your link is actually a little different than the one in post 3, and the price is lower
the same seller is still using the Novatac ASIN number..

the tipoff is the reviews from people complaining about receiving porn instead of a flashlight

the seller could pull his ad, but intentionally keeps using it instead..

Amazon is a cesspool of scammers now

btw, those links have been going since at least 2011
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/41479#comment-41479

E1320 wrote:

Wow I should tell you guys Amazon has these for $17 plus $5 shipping unless I buy the rest of them……………….hmmmmm.

http://www.amazon.com/NovaTac-120ST-Storm-LED-Flashlight/dp/B003GAEZL6

E1320 wrote:

They are still in stock for $23 plus $5 shipping through amazon at anime_castle.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000PHX4P6/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=...

here is a blf thread about the Novatac Storm on Amazon in 2013, where members ordered lights and got porn also

All Novatac Storm on Amazon are actually porn videos. The reviews are the tipoff

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Novatac 120P and 120T default programs, and a customized SPA 120

if you see any mistakes, please help me correct any inaccuracies

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I had many. The 120E was my favorite for some time. I did the 250 click hack.. My last one is a grey with black bezel 120E.
Think2X modded one of my 120’s and I carried it until I lost it. It was a sad day for me. Now I carry lights with deeper clips or no clips at all.

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Thanks for sharing your photo and the name of your modder.. I have plans to get a Nichia swap into my current favorite Novatac, a SPA Defense 120T model in grey with black bezel, and the old style flat knurling.

its the one on the left:

fwiw, the one on the left is 15% heavier than the SPA on the right, that has the anodized bezel.
It seems the newer metal was not as heavy.. not necessarily a bad thing.
the newer one, on the right, also has much more aggressive knurling, which some people prefer.. (I dont)

Im also interested in trying a flat button so I can tailstand, although the raised button is very convenient and easy to use.

really enjoying learning the HDS clicky UI through the Novatac line, since it is less expensive than an HDS clicky

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My teenage son just informed me that he has a gold one somewhere that I gave him. Lost in the move.

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Just found these photo on my phone. Some that I sold a while back. Wish I would of kept them now.

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Thanks for the visuals
including a serialized second run, plus a Triple, Wow!:-)

chadvone wrote:

a Goldie pic I found online

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@jon_slider:  I cannot see your pic in post #14.

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I seen it sunday, but I am not seeing it today.

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thanks to both of you for the heads up on the missing photo in post 14
it also disappeared on my screen today
I posted it again.. hope it stays
trying to figure out what happened to my Flickr, it wants to post fuzzy pics from the camera roll, so Im trying to link from the photostream page instead

test:
from camera roll: filename ends with _m.jpg. imo the M stands for mobile, and I dont like it, very low quality

note, Flickr updated the above image URL, here it is, now it works again:
note its filename ends with _c.jpg, where the C seems to stand for Camera Roll. The image quality, amount of detail, not fuzzy, is all good and normal again (Flickr fixed itself overnight and recoded the img urls)

next image, modified camera roll url (I deleted _m from filename):
note, this one is no longer needed.. Im only leaving it here because it has been mentioned in other posts

photostream URL
note this is still the highest quality.. its filename ends with _o.jpg Note the O stands for Original

I see 1 broken image, then 1 good detail photo, 1 Fuzzy Photo, and the last photo is the highest quality

It seems the bad links yesterday had to do with Flickr not having had time to process the images fully, so I was loading what was a temporary mobile url, before the server had renamed it for permanent storage. It seems Flickr stores an Original quality image, visible through the Photos page, and a lower resolution image, on the Camera Roll page. Depending which img url I post, changes the quality of the photo we see.

bottom line, The Flickr service is working for me again, and I learned how to post higher quality images from the photos page, instead of the camera roll page..

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Are there any Novatac available as new lights?

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bmwsancho wrote:
Are there any Novatac available as new lights?

Yes and no
There are New Old Stock Novatac SPA DEFENSE 120T versions available on Ebay, they are usually Silver, or Desert Tan, and tend to have bezels that match the color of the body. And the Knurling is very aggressive.

iow, they were made about 8-11 years ago, but some people still have unused ones for sale

keep in mind that 120T models arrive with a preset tactical program. You need to do a 250click process to unlock the programming features so you can set the light up to use levels you like, and to eliminate the strobe, if you dont want strobe.. etc

There is also a Novatac 120P available on ebay, the P models are programmable, they dont need the 250 click unlock.

Prices vary widely, from $40 all the way up to $200, depending on the seller.

There are several different versions of Novatac, 120P, 120E, 120T, 120M, Wichita, Storm,,, and among the 120P series there are some with serial numbers, and some with no serial numbers, and they came in black, or Peuter colors.

Then there is the subject of whether they were made in USA or not, or whether they were calibrated or not, and whether the ones with tailcaps that say Made in USA were really made in USA or if its just a USA labeled tailcap..

Then there are differences in the reflector design, and which LED is installed, and whether the light came with a pocket clip or not..

Ive been posting a lot of info in several threads, about my Novatac experiences.. I suggest you dive in and read all about them Smile

Oh, and there are details regarding when and whether they Flicker, which is also true for HDS versions that came before Novatac..

there are a lot of details, and also different bezels, the black ones are stainless, the anodized ones are aluminum..

enjoy the research

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I only see the 3rd.

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chadvone wrote:

I only see the 3rd.

+1

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thanks again for the photo feedback
post 14 how has a good visible highest quality pic
post 20 lost pic version 1 already, I can still see version #2 and #3
wait, I just reloaded, and now I can only see pic #3.. good to know

thanks for bearing with me as I learn to use the newly restricted Flickr
I guess I need to migrate to yet another “free” hosting site.. open to suggestions that do not include photobucket and flickr

I think its really cool to be able to see the differences in Knurling Smile
I like that kind of trivia.. LOL

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imgur Is what I use now. Someone here suggested it. Did some looking for the Gold Navatac today. No luck.

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Sorry to hear your Goldie is still AWOL
thanks for suggesting Imgur, the pics in this post are from that site

I just received a Black Novatac 120T, on the right,

and did the 250 click and reprogrammed it to 120P settings:
Preset A is Maximum
Preset B is 11 lumens
Preset C is 33 lumens
Preset D is 0.33 lumens

no strobe
no memory
no momentary mode
battery detection is set for 16340

In the process I discovered that it has a battery surround spring that was stretched too long, and was causing the switch to be unreliable. I fixed the problem by swapping in one of the springs from the other two Novatacs I have atm.

here are the 3 Novas, you can see the springs are not all the same

I also ordered a couple new springs from UniqueTitanium , which are also different than the others pictured

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Oh, that is nice one. Looks to be older version. Does it have numbers? Bezel down carry? Your scaring me.

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No serial numbers, here is the other side

and the clip would not stay in that position if it was for me. I take clips off. The light is promised to a friend overseas, and he likes clips.. I would put the clip under the tailcap, or under the Bezel, but what you see in the second pic in post 27 is just how the light arrived, with the clip between the head and body tube.. to me that is Wrong for pocket carry. The light would get flipped out and lost way too easily, with that much tail sticking up.

this setup would be less scary with a lanyard Wink

lumenzilla wrote:
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or in my pocket! without the regalia

or this would be more my style, I like HatClips

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About pocket clips
A very kind member sent me this Original Novatac Pocket clip,

as you can see it is a different style than the one on the red hat, in the above post.

not to look a gift horse in the teeth, just comparisons
the clip shown on the red hat is stiffer and does not flex when gripped, it also does not ride on the knurling, is not split on the ring, and is thicker

the clip shown in this post is lighter, springier, holds tighter to the body, is slightly smaller, does not stick out as far from the body, and weighs less than the clip on the red hat

I am fortunate to have choices, and also very grateful that both clips were gifts.

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About bezel mounted clips

Ive carried the Gold Novatac with the clips under the bezel for a while and have a couple pro and con reactions.

I like
the option to clip the light to my hat
that the light wont roll off a table
and the option carry clipped

I dont like
pushing on the crenelated bezel, when Im pocketing the light.
the extra bulk when gripping the light

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About Titanium Bezel options

A friend ordered these Titanium bezels from RPM and gave me a chance to check them out:

P/N TI-990-350-SP

P/N TI-990-350-SC6-060

I like the smooth one, it is gentler on my hand when pushing on the bezel, and I have less concern about it chewing a hole in my pocket.

I like the crenelated one too, it is not as sharp as the stock bezel, and I like the option to do this:

I checked if I could still fit a clip under the Titanium Bezel, the answer is yes. I note that the clip on the red hat has a much larger hole, and fits easily over the threads, but the ring also sticks out beyond the body of the light more.

The clip with the step on the blade has a tighter hole, and the fit of the ring is closer to flush with the body. the ring is split so it can be forced to thread onto the bezel (I chose not to do that with the Ti Bezel, but I know it works because the fit is the same as on the stock Gold Bezel).