GB Clone Offically "SOLD OUT" 10/21/18 XPL HI 1300LM Focusing AKA Cometa 2016

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I’ve just been told they can’t ship the gift (2× 18650) to the UK, so offered $10 refund. I’m happy with that.

I didn’t need the Cometa, but I’m glad I bought it and it adds to the collection. If my X50 or X65 had better pills I’d prefer them. They also needed blacking out internally, for which I used Stuart Semple Black 2.0, because I couldn’t get any Vantablack paint. I’ve also got a UF-1504, but when zooming I end up undoing the tail cap. The zoom also takes too many turns from flood to throw.

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djozz wrote:
I had a better look inside and out of the Cometa’s from this deal.

One of my Cometa’s drops out of turbo to moon after exactly 10 seconds every time, was that on the Cometa problem list? Party

It is in fact a Banggood bistro-driver that needs “the fix” : adding a 5 Ohm resistor between led+ and both C1 and D1, this flaw was found out after the Cometa group buy. A bit unfortunate that they chose this problem driver on top of all other problems.

But from a modder’s point of view these are hosts from heaven. All problems have easy fixes, the build quality is great, everything easily accessable, with all the standard parts that you like for modding. And those lenses are gorgeous!

Only real flaw is the lettering, “Cometa” and “CPF-Italia” is fine, but why the huge “2016” ?


My two Cometa driver don’t have this problem, is it something that will develop over time?
The 2016 is nice disguise, both my wife and daughter thought they’re are not newly bought. Success!!!

cool i'll see you when you get there

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My first Cometa just arrived. So far everything looks fine except for the LED which is far off center. Will it be easy to realign it to a correctly centered position?


Yes and no. Easy to open and align the led pcb, but not really easy to judge is it center enough.

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I’ve just been told they can’t ship the gift (2× 18650) to the UK, so offered $10 refund. I’m happy with that.

I didn’t need the Cometa, but I’m glad I bought it and it adds to the collection. If my X50 or X65 had better pills I’d prefer them. They also needed blacking out internally, for which I used Stuart Semple Black 2.0, because I couldn’t get any Vantablack paint. I’ve also got a UF-1504, but when zooming I end up undoing the tail cap. The zoom also takes too many turns from flood to throw.


Wow! You got Cometa for USD5.99. Thumbs Up
Can you post how you improve it with internal blacking?

cool i'll see you when you get there

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@ecotack
I have the paint in my cart for more than a year. But i could not get anyone that could say if its worth the 20€.

New LuckySun D80 looking good so far http://budgetlightforum.com/node/66255

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djozz wrote:
I had a better look inside and out of the Cometa’s from this deal.

One of my Cometa’s drops out of turbo to moon after exactly 10 seconds every time, was that on the Cometa problem list? Party

It is in fact a Banggood bistro-driver that needs “the fix” : adding a 5 Ohm resistor between led+ and both C1 and D1, this flaw was found out after the Cometa group buy. A bit unfortunate that they chose this problem driver on top of all other problems.

But from a modder’s point of view these are hosts from heaven. All problems have easy fixes, the build quality is great, everything easily accessable, with all the standard parts that you like for modding. And those lenses are gorgeous!

Only real flaw is the lettering, “Cometa” and “CPF-Italia” is fine, but why the huge “2016” ?

Are you going to mod yours id be intetested to see what numbers you get with XPG2? mine does close to my B158 in throw. My numbers are always low when testing candela.

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Wow… 350+ replied in this post. Big Smile
Too bad. Mine is still “back order” without any progress at all. May have to cancel soon.

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I received mine today, it was missing that vappower 26650 and those freebie 2×18650. I doublecheked my order and it clearly was with 26650. Guess i have to contact BG customer services..

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The 2016 is nice disguise, both my wife and daughter thought they’re are not newly bought. Success!!![/quote]

too funny! Wink

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DENGOH wrote:
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I’ve just been told they can’t ship the gift (2× 18650) to the UK, so offered $10 refund. I’m happy with that.

I didn’t need the Cometa, but I’m glad I bought it and it adds to the collection. If my X50 or X65 had better pills I’d prefer them. They also needed blacking out internally, for which I used Stuart Semple Black 2.0, because I couldn’t get any Vantablack paint. I’ve also got a UF-1504, but when zooming I end up undoing the tail cap. The zoom also takes too many turns from flood to throw.


Wow! You got Cometa for USD5.99. Thumbs Up
Can you post how you improve it with internal blacking?

It was the Warsun X65 (right) I had to black out, the Cometa (left) is nicely done from new:

Just out of interest, left to right, Warsun X50 XML, Warsun X65 de-domed XPG2, Cometa XPL HI and UF-1504 de-domed XPG2. Apologies for the bad photo, take on my phone and they are not all at the same brightness.

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@ecotack I have the paint in my cart for more than a year. But i could not get anyone that could say if its worth the 20€.

Not sure how well it will cope with the heat yet. Someone on eBay UK sells 10ml bottles for £2.25 plus shipping, so I thought I’d try it.

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I have a noob question. What happens if I paint the inside of the head white or chrome instead of black? I want to mod one to use 4xE21A to be used mainly in flood mode for picture taking.

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SKV89 wrote:
I have a noob question. What happens if I paint the inside of the head white or chrome instead of black? I want to mod one to use 4xE21A to be used mainly in flood mode for picture taking.

Painting the inside white will add a bit to the flood, and it will make the spot setting really ugly (but just as bright of course)
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I have a noob question. What happens if I paint the inside of the head white or chrome instead of black? I want to mod one to use 4xE21A to be used mainly in flood mode for picture taking.

Artifacts.
Even glossy black makes weird artifacts in zoomies.
This one is flat black to avoid this, and get a clean beam Smile

I get mine today, my first light with Bistro UI.
Really nice host (except for the sketchy markings), but I’m surprise that the lens is smaller than on my B158B.

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Get today with 26650 cell
Head threads are loose and not resistance during rotation,maybe miss O-ring need to check.
Package is marked 2016-07 I hope also the battery (3.6V) will not 2 year old.

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Get today with 26650 cell
Head threads are loose and not resistance during rotation,maybe miss O-ring need to check.
Package is marked 2016-07 I hope also the battery (3.6V) will not 2 year old.

There is no o-ring under the sliding part of the head, which would have been nice in the design to stabilise the head and provide some extra waterproofing. But they did not do that.
A two-year old li-ion battery, if stored at 3.6V, should be perfectly fine.
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djozz wrote:
Alen wrote:
Get today with 26650 cell Head threads are loose and not resistance during rotation,maybe miss O-ring need to check. Package is marked 2016-07 I hope also the battery (3.6V) will not 2 year old.
There is no o-ring under the sliding part of the head, which would have been nice in the design to stabilise the head and provide some extra waterproofing. But they did not do that. A two-year old li-ion battery, if stored at 3.6V, should be perfectly fine.

What you think about this Cell and how much Volt was at the first?
About the Lens usefull Area looks smaller than expect.

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My cells were 3.45V if I remember well, fine voltage for storing. The cells seem fine, I measured both around 5500 mAh, which is a great capacity. They can draw quite some current but are not the highest current cells around, they say.

The size of the lens compared to the head size is not maximal, but that is a design choice: for every zoomie you need to extend the bezel to protect the lens, and that bezel in principle blocks sideways light in flood modus. Jaxman (=original design of Cometta) chose a wider bezel/narrower lens to aid the beam angle in flood, other manufacturers choose a maximal diameter lens (for their given bezel diameter) for highest brightness in spot modus but the flood is pretty narrow.

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My cells were 3.45V if I remember well, fine voltage for storing. The cells seem fine, I measured both around 5500 mAh, which is a great capacity. They can draw quite some current but are not the highest current cells around, they say.

The size of the lens compared to the head size is not maximal, but that is a design choice: for every zoomie you need to extend the bezel to protect the lens, and that bezel in principle blocks sideways light in flood modus. Jaxman (=original design of Cometta) chose a wider bezel/narrower lens to aid the beam angle in flood, other manufacturers choose a maximal diameter lens (for their given bezel diameter) for highest brightness in spot modus but the flood is pretty narrow.

Thanks for explain.
I don’t recognize if this Vappower it’s just a Rebranded Japan/Korean cell,
or it’s a full Chinese manufactured,

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I’ve dropped some differents LEDs in mine…
Tried a sliced SST20 but got too much artifacts (due to my crude method of slicing), an untoched SST20 and finally an LH351D with the dome.
I kept the latter for it gives a nearly round beam when zoomed in, with a great CRI so it shows more things.
Zoomed out it makes a really good fill light for video/photo Smile

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Received mine today, 18 days from china to france with standard shipping (without tracking)…not to shabby.
I don’t like zoomie generally but at this price with a 26650 included + a lighted tailcap, it would have been silly to not jump on this bargain !

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DENGOH wrote:

The 2016 is nice disguise, both my wife and daughter thought they’re are not newly bought. Success!!!

LOL Big Smile

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Zoomed out it makes a really good fill light for video/photo Smile
Why haven’t I thought about this ???!!! Thumbs Up
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Zoomed out it makes a really good fill light for video/photo Smile
Why haven’t I thought about this ???!!! Thumbs Up
Meh, it’s not ideal, with its sharp cut off at the edge and the tint shift you get with zoomed out aspherics (or with bare LEDs).
Good wide angle frosted TIR optics would be better.

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Oh, hey, yeah, i got mine today too !!
Battery inside.
Best BG deal ever?
Could well be. Thumbs Up

The light is made of nice parts. Thumbs Up

The head is not as loose as i expected. Pity they chose to not use an O-ring, it’s not even possible with that battery tube front end with those ‘fins’ (grooves) to do that yourself.
Maybe i’ll think of something eventually or just live with it.

The lens looks nice. But it seems only AR coated on the convex (front) side. But that’s where it is the most important.
It has a tiny dimple on the front in the centre though… Tired
> Anyone else have that too?

I don’t like the DD ‘driver’ and the XP-L HI though.

Not sure what LED to put in it…
I have 1 good old 2014 pinkish tinted XP-G2 left to dedome. The other one is in my B158.
I also have some later high Vf cool white ones.
Not sure about the driver choice yet either.

I haven’t even tested the light, it’s in pieces already..
Disassemble, reassemble, try. Big Smile

Yeah, there is too little space between the switch and the switch boot too. No big deal.

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Do they have the same lens size? Would be interesting to see the same emitter in both lights to see the difference between the lights itself.
Can someone give me the exact head diameter? Want to order a dust cap from KD (or comes the Cometa with cap like the Z1).
I should have bought a second one for this price. With the new powerfull UV leds it would have been fun to build a UV thrower.

New LuckySun D80 looking good so far http://budgetlightforum.com/node/66255

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Do they have the same lens size? Would be interesting to see the same emitter in both lights to see the difference between the lights itself.
Can someone give me the exact head diameter? Want to order a dust cap from KD (or comes the Cometa with cap like the Z1).
I should have bought a second one for this price. With the new powerfull UV leds it would have been fun to build a UV thrower.

Just tested with 365nm UV, the lens let it pass Smile
Also, just measured the head : 53mm in diameter.
I tried a sliced SST20 in my Cometa, the beam is less tight than with the larger headed B158B

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Two packages arrived today. The first was filled with two Shockli 26650 nicely protected and with extra heatshrink wrap (ordered directly from Shockli on Aliexpress).
Second one was the Cometa. Who the hell did the assembly? And have they ever heard of Quality Controll? I do not think that i ever bought a light with so badly assembled parts.
The scratched tread on the head is not nice but i can live with it. The head sounds like a rattlesnake, the led is reflowed crooket, switch tailcap with to much preload, Negative wire on driver was shorting against the pill + spring soldert out of center (next shorting point if the spring moves only a bit more to the side.
Its a nice host but i think it is really irresponsible to sell these light to people with no modding experience.

New LuckySun D80 looking good so far http://budgetlightforum.com/node/66255

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Wedged two small pieces, roughly 1”×1”, of 20lb paper. No more free wheeling head.

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