GB Clone Offically "SOLD OUT" 10/21/18 XPL HI 1300LM Focusing AKA Cometa 2016

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As for being occupied with rules and behaviour, simply pointing out the forum rules if they are not being followed, like raccoon did, sounds like normal behaviour to me.

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Stop behaving like hypocritical commie virtue signalers to avoid urinating people off and trigger risqué conversations.

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djozz wrote:
As for being occupied with rules and behaviour, simply pointing out the forum rules if they are not being followed, like raccoon did, sounds like normal behaviour to me.

To be clear, flagging my post as rude because i quoted “sh(it)” is not normal behaviour.
If you want to police on a forum, become a moderator and chase everyone you don’t like out.

By the way, why do you have a political signature when you’re always against discussing politics (which is not allowed on BLF, and for good reason)?

…..aaaand that’s all for me for today in this topic…

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Jerommel wrote:
djozz wrote:
As for being occupied with rules and behaviour, simply pointing out the forum rules if they are not being followed, like raccoon did, sounds like normal behaviour to me.

To be clear, flagging my post as rude because i quoted “sh(it)” is not normal behaviour.
If you want to police on a forum, become a moderator and chase everyone you don’t like out.

…..aaaand that’s all for me for today in this topic…

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Before you go, would you please remove the posts that you filled with language that is considered rude, this is supposed to be a family-friendly forum and even apart from the rules for me that is part of why I like it here.
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I added a question to my post (since it was supposed to be the last post here… Facepalm ).

Yeah okay, i’ll remove those (wo)rds. Thumbs Up

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Lux-Perpetua wrote:

Well, of course you can put it this way. Still, I assume this flashlight can be a bargain for those who know what they are dealing with. The only worries I currently have are that I may be overlooking something I should take care of when disassembling the Cometa and doin’ some kind of “check and rectify”.


 


So far, I noted following potential hazardous areas that might cause shorts:



  • solder joints on LED aluminum board (potential for bad solder jobs)

  • sharp edges on the pill that might damage the insulation of wires

  • insulation disc on the rear side of the pill is crucial as the outer rim of the pill might cause shorts when in contact with the positive pole of the battery


Should there be anything else to be taken care of, I’ll be glad to hear about it.


Yes, there was a problem with the driver pocket also. The major I.D. of the driver shelf was oversize, say 19-19.5mm I think? The pass thru hole was like 17.8-18mm so you could actually move the 17mm driver over enough to short out on one of the SMD’s or positive lead… something like that… Also since the mcpcb board isn’t screwed or glued, (the Z1 mcpcb was screwed down) a couple members had the board rotate when they tightened the cover on, and sheared the leads. IIRC….

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That is a really nice clean mod, Great job, Thumbs Up

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Berrylium copper spring? Looks great!

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Wellp, my order without cells was ordered on the 24th, and is just being processed through Xiaoumen or somewhere.

My order with cells from the 25th is still “back-ordered”, expected shipping date 10-04.

Yah, right. Stiiiiill waiting…

Anyone know where to p&m about that without having anyone just cancel the order?

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I was hearing in my head the phrase "patience is a virtue" with an Asian accent (?) after reading your post. LoL! 

For my order, somewhere, a check mark in the 'signature required' field was filled in. Argh!

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DENGOH wrote:
djozz wrote:
I had a better look inside and out of the Cometa’s from this deal.

One of my Cometa’s drops out of turbo to moon after exactly 10 seconds every time, was that on the Cometa problem list? Party

It is in fact a Banggood bistro-driver that needs “the fix” : adding a 5 Ohm resistor between led+ and both C1 and D1, this flaw was found out after the Cometa group buy. A bit unfortunate that they chose this problem driver on top of all other problems.

But from a modder’s point of view these are hosts from heaven. All problems have easy fixes, the build quality is great, everything easily accessable, with all the standard parts that you like for modding. And those lenses are gorgeous!

Only real flaw is the lettering, “Cometa” and “CPF-Italia” is fine, but why the huge “2016” ?


My two Cometa driver don’t have this problem, is it something that will develop over time?
The 2016 is nice disguise, both my wife and daughter thought they’re are not newly bought. Success!!!

First I would like to thank T18 for posting this deal Thumbs Up

I bought the light with the Vap battery,
it was delivered in a bit less then 3 weeks

my light was also dropping out of turbo to moon after 10 seconds or less

but after reading I found that it was the temp setting
I turned the temp / heat setting off and it is working fine now

I also opened the light and the solder looked fine
but I insulated the blobs anyways as a precaution

I like the light so much that I went back tonight to buy another
but the price is now 47.99 Facepalm
hope they lower it again, I would definitely pick up another

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Iwon’ttellyourwife, your quit welcome, I sure didn’t expect this thread to become as long as it became.
I to saw how BG raised the price of some 20 more units and they are claiming it’s for sale at 50% off the original price of $95 something,
This light has never sold for that much, imagine what light you would buy for $95, not the Cometa I hope.. ha ha
The most they have ever tried to sell this light for was $65 and that was way to much for this clone, and $40+ is ridiculous as well.
All of us BLFers probably saved some poor soul from buying a potentially very dangerous surprise at $15.99,
I do think we all got one over on BG this time, especially if you got the free cells,

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Amen!

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Yesterday afternoon they had 148 of the 3Bs, priced at £20.90, in the UK warehouse

But mysteriously this morning (early) they only have twenty, at the bargain price of £37.14 (a massive reduction from the proper price of £72.79. Shocked

Be quick, buy buy buy, only 20 left, unrepeatable offer …

Do they take us for monkeys ? Sadly some gullible idiot might just take them up on their offer.

If they had any ethics or moral compass, or sense of shame, they would either scrap them, or unscrew the driver, cut the LED wires, and sell them as a “DIY host, includes free LED and BLF driver, no warranty, only experienced people need apply”

Because that is all that they are.

And will never be as good as the real thing, even after hours of “fixing-up” with your own un costed time and materials. And every time you look at it, you will know that it isn’t the best, was shamelessly ripped-off from the original designer, and perhaps you should have saved the money and put it towards something much better. And not been knowingly complicit in further continuing fraudulent and deceptive practices.

Edit: and cheap.

Meanwhile you can buy the real deal from Jaxman, for under $60, or about £45.

Who would be so stupid as to take up Banggoods’s offer now ?

I dare say they’ll be back on a better offer soon enough, I think they still have a big stockpile to shift.

Failure should be it’s own reward, not further rewarded. And I disapprove of rewarding failure by continuing to buy this dirty thing, no matter how appealing the price might be.

Cometa: the gift that keeps on giving…

Edit: here is a little word-cloud that might attract the search engines, because all mention of the “C” word seems to have vanished from BG:

XPL HI 1300Lumens 8Modes Dimming Brightness Long Rang Long Shots LED Flashlight 18650/26650

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donttellmywifeiambuyinganotherlight wrote:
DENGOH wrote:
My two Cometa driver don’t have this problem, is it something that will develop over time? The 2016 is nice disguise, both my wife and daughter thought they’re are not newly bought. Success!!!

First I would like to thank T18 for posting this deal Thumbs Up

I bought the light with the Vap battery,
it was delivered in a bit less then 3 weeks

my light was also dropping out of turbo to moon after 10 seconds or less

but after reading I found that it was the temp setting
I turned the temp / heat setting off and it is working fine now

I also opened the light and the solder looked fine
but I insulated the blobs anyways as a precaution

I like the light so much that I went back tonight to buy another
but the price is now 47.99 Facepalm
hope they lower it again, I would definitely pick up another


Thanks for confirming the issue to be firmware related. I disable the temperature thingy since I got the light.
This light is really nice. But I really hope it has a mode that is two levels of 50% and 100%. Its mode options below are really not suitable for me. Now I am using mode 1 which is 1300lm, it gets hot when battery is freshly charged, else it is fine to just let it on Turbo all the time.

1 — 1300 lm
2 — 5, 1300
3 — 5, 293, 1300
4 — 5, 135, 543, 1300
5 — 5, 79, 293, 688, 1300
6 — 5, 54, 178, 419, 813, 1300
7 — 5, 47, 135, 293, 543, 858, 1300
8 — 5, 35, 99, 213, 365, 613, 953, 1300

cool i'll see you when you get there

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Tom Tom wrote:
Yesterday afternoon they had 148 of the 3Bs, priced at £20.90, in the UK warehouse

But mysteriously this morning (early) they only have twenty, at the bargain price of £37.14 (a massive reduction from the proper price of £72.79. Shocked

Be quick, buy buy buy, only 20 left, unrepeatable offer …

Do they take us for monkeys ? Sadly some gullible idiot might just take them up on their offer.

I ordered two Cometas with free 26650 and 18650s. I have already received the free 18650s.

Yesterday I received an email from Banggood informing me that the Chinese warehouse was out of stock and that the product had been discontinued, but that I could have the torches posted from the UK warehouse without the 26650 cells.

Perhaps Banggood just put 128 aside for unfulfilled orders?

Edit: I’m not arguing with the rest of Tom Tom’s post, just pointing out that Banggood does seem to be trying to fulfill orders and might not be sitting on a huge stockpile.

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Got a mail from banggood today. Theybsaid the oedered item was out of stock..bla..bla..
I will ask for refund.

Take care of your flashlight and your flashlight will take care of you.

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I have already received a return for the Cometa from 26650. It’s a shame of course, when the seller places the goods, you pay for the goods, and then the seller realizing his losses goes to outright cheating ….

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Alright, thank you guys for your input. So far, I noted following issues that one should take a look at before actually using the Cometa:

 

Short circuit risks:

  • solder joints on LED aluminum board (potential for bad solder jobs)
  • sharp edges on the pill that might damage the insulation of wires
  • insulation disc on the rear side of the pill is crucial as the outer rim of the pill might cause shorts when in contact with the positive pole of the battery
  • driver pocket / driver shelf oversize (approx. 19-19.5mm) while pass thru hole is about 17.8-18mm => 17mm driver can be moved over enough to short out on one of the SMD’s or positive lead
  • MCPCB isn’t screwed or glued => risk of board-rotation and shearing-off of leads when tightening the cover

Operational malfunctions/ flaws:

  • Turbo drops out to moon after exactly 10 seconds => Fix: adding a 5 Ohm resistor between led+ and both C1 and D1 or set off the temp / heat setting

  • Rattling inside the head due to zoom mechanism => Fix: still in clarification / adding high-viscosity lubricant, o-rings or kapton tape might help

If there's anything more to consider or if something needs to be corrected in my above mentioned points, I'll be glad to collect any further input and summarize it here. Smile

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I’m sure they want rid of them, who wouldn’t.

But I suspect some automated algorithm is observing this, re-pricing based on recent past orders, and oscillating wildly, with no (sensible) human in the loop.

Interesting times. And pick up your “bargains” whilst you can.

But don’t forget it is still a sh(it) torch, meaning sh (dont talk about it) and (it) meaning a complex UI. Nothing more.

You could do much better, for just a few dollars more.

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MCPCB isn’t screwed or glued => risk of board-rotation and shearing-off of leads when tightening the cover

And what prevents to place two screws and get rid of a headache ? FacepalmHatSilly

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Tom Tom, I can understand that you feel frustrated about this flashlight and how things went south in the past between CPF Italia, Banggood, Manker and Jaxman. However, I would greatly appreciate it if we all could focus on the technical aspects of the Cometa, it's great benefits regarding the low price and how any potential flaws can be identified and rectified. In my humble opinion and without any offence, griping over and over again about the past, the price fluctuations on Banggood or why one should not buy this light distracts a bit from finding out how to get the best out of this light.

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johnkey68 wrote:
Lux-Perpetua wrote:

MCPCB isn’t screwed or glued => risk of board-rotation and shearing-off of leads when tightening the cover

And what prevents to place two screws and get rid of a headache ? FacepalmHatSilly

So, I take this as a solution for the problem, right? If so, I will be glad to include it into my list.

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For the Problem of Driver shelf oversize on Pill,with risk of short.
We can try to screw a P60 brass on the cometa pill instead the stock ring,
then put the driver
hope will fit.

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So far, I noted following issues that one should take a look at before actually using the Cometa:

 

Short circuit risks:

  • solder joints on LED aluminum board (potential for bad solder jobs)
  • sharp edges on the pill that might damage the insulation of wires
  • insulation disc on the rear side of the pill is crucial as the outer rim of the pill might cause shorts when in contact with the positive pole of the battery
  • driver pocket / driver shelf oversize (approx. 19-19.5mm) while pass thru hole is about 17.8-18mm => 17mm driver can be moved over enough to short out on one of the SMD’s or positive lead
  • MCPCB isn’t screwed or glued => risk of board-rotation and shearing-off of leads when tightening the cover => Fix: tighten the MCPCB by mounting two screws onto it

Operational malfunctions/ flaws:

  • Turbo drops out to moon after exactly 10 seconds => Fix: adding a 5 Ohm resistor between led+ and both C1 and D1 or set off the temp / heat setting

  • Rattling inside the head due to zoom mechanism => Fix: still in clarification / adding high-viscosity lubricant, o-rings or kapton tape might help

If there's anything more to consider or if something needs to be corrected in my above mentioned points, I'll be glad to collect any further input and summarize it here. Smile

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Lux-Perpetua wrote:

Tom Tom, I can understand that you feel ..;

No I don’t think that you do. It is quite visceral, and some behaviour just is not acceptable, even after a few years have gone by.

Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8 for a more eloquent expression.

The girl from Tiger Bay expresses it more clearly.

Well, what can I say ? its different.

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Tom Tom, enough already. You have made your points. Stop calling name on Cometa most people here enjoy having. The groupbuy was a mess, don’t blame the flashlight. I bet you don’t buy from Banggood anymore, but that’s your decision.

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Bottom line it appears is to treat the Cometa as if it were a host. Grad

Don’t forget to turn off the lights. Flashlights work better that way.

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I think on some drivers the turbo step down because the programed temp is to low?

Also i never heard about the LED rotating its common for zoomies to not have the MCPCB screwed down by actual screws. This system is what is used on most zoomies?

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