Sofirn SP36, impressions of a sample

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hank wrote:
DBSAR, that’s really helpful. Thank you.

Would you mention what you learn in the thread I started for info on USB charging?
I copied that bit over to that thread.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/63926

maybe i could to a full test of the lights that i have and charging sources i have. now you have sparked my thoughts in doing a full light charging & charger test comparison review. Big Smile

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!{width:80%}https://i.imgur.com/0vfiXQp.jpg!

It will surely look nicer with SS bezel and/or tail cap all black is too plain Wink

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Hey, Sofirn, are you going to sell this light through USA Amazon?

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Just got my SP36 the paper manual is very hard to read due to small font is it possible to download PDF version ?

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Satan@103TFS wrote:
Just got my SP36 the paper manual is very hard to read due to small font is it possible to download PDF version ?

Sure Winkclick here ◄ (just make sure you choose the "EN" version on my sharepoint for English language)

To be honest, it's "only" the NarsilM manual, so the first page where Sofirn states some information about it, where you can find more resources about NarsilM and the BLF Q8 etc. is missing. I asked Sofirn if they allow me to publish the entire manual but so far they did not want me to because it's not being sold on Amazon yet.

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Thanks Lux-Perpetua I will try google translate ,any English version.

Edit:I got it Thanks again.

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So you are the first to receive this pretty cool new flashlight and all we hear is a question about the pdf? Big Smile

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Mine is still en route to me (stuck in Shenzhen since 11/29/2018) but I will be happy to tell about the SP36 as soon as it arrives. Smile

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I’ve been using this light for one day. I like it but I think it could be improved a lot with just 3 changes.

My Sphere shows 5400lm stock with 30Q

I just don’t like three things:

-No lanyard attachment. The light is heavy and easy to drop, they should try to put an attachment for a lanyard wherever they can. Or just a thread for a tripod mount like the Q8
-Usb cover protrudes a lot, it should be recessed and harder to open by accident
-Leds choice. I don’t like the xpl2, ugly tint and lots of tint shift. This light should use the same xpl hi as the Sofirn Q8

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I was wondering about the lack of lanyard attachment and think that I might try this one again if I can find the directions again. I used a knot around my Zebralight headlamp that works well. Unfortunately I completely forgot the name of this knot, but someone might know the name if they take a peek at the picture below,

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Anthon wrote:
I’ve been using this light for one day. I like it but I think it could be improved a lot with just 3 changes.

My Sphere shows 5400lm stock with 30Q

I just don’t like three things:

-No lanyard attachment. The light is heavy and easy to drop, they should try to put an attachment for a lanyard wherever they can. Or just a thread for a tripod mount like the Q8
-Usb cover protrudes a lot, it should be recessed and harder to open by accident
-Leds choice. I don’t like the xpl2, ugly tint and lots of tint shift. This light should use the same xpl hi as the Sofirn Q8


I agree with the lanyard attachment, it is one of the things that I reported back to Sofirn about the prototype. You can see that in the current design is would not be easy to find a good spot for one so I understand why they left it out, but they may had better tried a bit harder.

I have not used my SP36 in a camping situation outside, but I can see that the USB-cover could suffer from real use (I did rip the USB-cover off my EagleEye X2R recently).

The XP-L2 is the only current led that will get them over 5000 lumen in this flashlight so that will sell, simple as that. And I must say that in the SP36 this led has a better beam than in some other lights that I tried it in.

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How can I say in short SP36 is a small version of Q8 with type C port with small different as

!20181206-221223!

-SP36 is more comfortable to hold

-SP36 is the brightest of 3 (from ceiling bounce app 0s / 30s)

+SP36 stock with Sofirn battery = 590/528lx +Sofirn Q8 stock with HG2 = 524/494lx +BLF Q8 bypass spring with 30Q = 542/501lx

-Tint and spot size

From left to right BLF Q8 ,Sofirn Q8 ,SP36

!20181206-221029!

Some thing missing in SP36

-No lanyard hold

-Look too plain black need SS bezel/tail cap

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Satan@103TFS wrote:
Just got my SP36 the paper manual is very hard to read due to small font is it possible to download PDF version ?

Is your bezel glued, or can it be removed to change emitters?

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TexasToasted wrote:
Satan@103TFS wrote:
Just got my SP36 the paper manual is very hard to read due to small font is it possible to download PDF version ?

Is your bezel glued, or can it be removed to change emitters?

Yes seem it glued Facepalm

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Looking Good Sofirn!

Perhaps the Samsung LH351D would perform well? I’ve found them making big lumens in a D4S quad, so they should do well here too. Just a thought, lot nicer beam and tint anyway. Wink

Edit: Well rested my D4S just tested at 5961.6 lumens with Samsung emitters. Big Smile

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Satan@103TFS wrote:
TexasToasted wrote:
Satan@103TFS wrote:
Just got my SP36 the paper manual is very hard to read due to small font is it possible to download PDF version ?

Is your bezel glued, or can it be removed to change emitters?

Yes seem it glued Facepalm

Bezel is not glued, but driver is, and you need to remove it to swap the leds

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Anthon wrote:
Satan@103TFS wrote:
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Satan@103TFS wrote:
Just got my SP36 the paper manual is very hard to read due to small font is it possible to download PDF version ?

Is your bezel glued, or can it be removed to change emitters?

Yes seem it glued Facepalm

Bezel is not glued, but driver is, and you need to remove it to swap the leds

Right my mistake

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Load the battery tube with the best cells you can lay your hands on, run the light til you’re afraid the bezel is going to melt, the driver should pry out easily. Big Smile

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Mine has a 2 min stepdown to 1500lm. I guess this can be configured with narsil

A double click gets back to turbo for another two min. I measured the light at 72 degrees. How hot it needs to be to remove the driver? Smile

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DB Custom wrote:
Load the battery tube with the best cells you can lay your hands on, run the light til you’re afraid the bezel is going to melt, the driver should pry out easily. Big Smile

The last glued driver I had to remove was my Amutorch X9 and they just used plain old silicone RTV which was real easy to remove. I guess Sofirn isn’t that nice.
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I went back through the posts and now I understand why the driver has to be removed to swap emitters.
I was getting over the blah looks of this light; I have a need for a bright, mulitcell light with good run time, but not if I have to do this to get good emitters.

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TexasToasted wrote:
I went back through the posts and now I understand why the driver has to be removed to swap emitters.
I was getting over the blah looks of this light; I have a need for a bright, mulitcell light with good run time, but not if I have to do this to get good emitters.


The Emitters are good, I think. They are genuine Cree XP-L2

But for me, the problem will be, that they use CW LEDs. And for that, I will not buy it, because I can not change it easy.

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The Emitters are good, I think. They are genuine Cree XP-L2

But for me, the problem will be, that they use CW LEDs. And for that, I will not buy it, because I can not change it easy.

For me, those are opposing statements. To my eyes, a cool emitter cannot be a good emitter. I like soft white, warm emitters. 3000K to 4000K. I can live with a cool white emitter if it doesn’t have a noticeably bad tint shift, but every time I use a cool white light, I wish it was warmer. The only reason I leave cool white emitters in a light is because the light is too hard to mod (like this SP36) or because I don’t like the light enough to spend more money on it. I have spent too much money on lights that had features I really liked, but had emitters I don’t like, or drivers I don’t like. If the light is mod friendly, I will fix those problems. But this light is not mod friendly.

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I don't mind glued drivers, soft silicone style, when you can poke thru a LED wire hole and pop it out easy enough - done this many times, usually couple light taps of a hammer on a solder pick or something. But if we can't do that with this, plus the fact every time you open access to the batteries, the driver is loose - that's not good, unless you have to re-glue which I would not want to do.

I ordered one, shipped on the way. Guess we'll find out soon enough what everyone is doing to get access to the driver and LED's. Right now my favorite LED's are 351D 4000K 90 CRI's and XPL HI V2 5D's from Richard, so one or the other is my plan for this light. I always preferred the 5D tint goin way back to early XML2 days, and the XPL HI's in 5D are bout the most perfect tint I've seen - creamy white thru all areas of the beam  pattern.

All the small Sofirn e-switch lights I got have been so disappointing with right angle driver mounted switches frown. I also got an SP33 on order, so hoping it's an easier mod.

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To get the driver out the way I did, when I found how to do it, it was not difficult, it just needed some preparation and a very hot solder iron to attach the handle to the brass ring. I just can’t guarantee that it will be the glue that gives in first, you could be unlucky ripping the brass ring off.

But to be honest, this only a good host if you manage to get the driver out. I really tried to convince Sofirn to use a retaining ring or screws to fix the driver but that did not happen. Hopefully Sofirn instead of making this a good host brings it out in more emitter options. And give it a bit more bling perhaps.

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The flashlight is listed on gearbest in flashsale and on aliexpress.
I would order it, but not with the light color and the glued driver. I don’t want to remove the driver like djozz has shown it. And I don’t want to pay for extra LEDs, if I want to keep XP-L2 in it, but in other color.

Nice flashligh, but can not order due to these problems.

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Those are all valid points. Perhaps Sofirn will take you up on the change in color.

Mine should be in my hands on Saturday. I really love my Q8 lights and am grateful that this one will be just small enough to make it easier to carry. The performance of the sample is solid and I’m hopeful that the regular production lights will be just the same.

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PBWilson wrote:
I was wondering about the lack of lanyard attachment and think that I might try this one again if I can find the directions again. I used a knot around my Zebralight headlamp that works well. Unfortunately I completely forgot the name of this knot, but someone might know the name if they take a peek at the picture below,

!http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/PBWilson/IMG_1955_zps1do3wtlx.jpg!

I remembered the knot I used (and most likely would use on the SP36). It’s called a Constrictor Knot. There are variations such as the Double and the Strangle Knot.

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I got home to find that my SC36 was waiting for me in my mailbox. It arrived in a small, slightly padded plastic envelope like so many other items mailed from China. Inside was a plain box which was somewhat smushed.

All was well on the inside and the thin bubble wrap and single layer of foam kept the light in one piece.

It came with four backup o-rings, instructions, “Happy?/Not Happy?” card and the charging cord (in addition to the light itself).

Everything was put together well with no scratches or blemishes at all.




It has double springs in the tail which seem relatively firm. The driver is glued (as it was in the sample) and there’s barely a trace on the inside of the head. It could use some grease on the square threads, but after dropping in my freshly charged cells, it worked just like a slightly smaller Q8 that I know and love.




The rubber piece over the charging port sticks out a bit but the rubber seems reasonably sturdy. I’ll see how well it holds itself closed, but it’s quite a bit better than my Astrolux and Eagle Eye charging covers.


I couldn’t get a decent beam shot in my bedroom but it does have distinct petals on the edges. It’s a bit warmer than I expected. I’ll give it a test outside later on but overall I can expect it to be a nice around-the-house and in-the-car light. I’m really appreciating how quickly it ramps up and down. It’s still a bit large for jacket pocket carry but I’m happy with this first in-hand impression.

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Is it floody or throwy? How is it compared to the Sofirn Q8?

thanks!

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