OSRAM CSLNM1.TG 1mm, CSLPM1.TG 2mm, CULNM1.TG 1mm

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Good luck with getting your L2 even better! Smile

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Wow, thanks for the album, impressive!
Really need to find someone with a 3d printer or lathe

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I finally took my Z1 to the local reservoir… I took my MF02 and modded L6 for comparison, among others.
I know the MF02 should be over 400kcd, but to my eye the Z1 with CULNM1 threw better. Of course it was a pencil beam in comparison, but it is quite impressive. One interesting thing I noticed with my Z1 was that I had to “zoom it out” a little to correct the focus on the CULNM1. At night, the visible beam made it quite apparent that the focus was wrong with the head fully unscrewed.

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I thought this might be interesting!
The light on the left is the Convoy S2 that I showed before with SMO reflector + Osram KW CSLMN1.TG + Led4Power driver.
The light on the right is the Acebeam TK16 (AL) with 3 x Osram KW CSLMN1.TG + Carclo 10507.

The farthest tree is at 115m:

Farthest trees are at about 190m:

The house is at 213m:

Conclusion: even below optics, this LED is awesome!
Sorry, the photos show different weather conditions as they were taken in different nights. The distances remain, though Silly

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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These pictures dont look like the same exposure settings.

Look how much brighter the street is lit in all of the Acebeam shots. Camera is out smarting you Smile

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contactcr wrote:
These pictures dont look like the same exposure settings.

Look how much brighter the street is lit in all of the Acebeam shots. Camera is out smarting you Smile

Hum, I can’t remember that, actually Oops The photos were taken in different days (S2 in June, TK16 in August).

If I recall correctly, the light temperature was set differently, maybe 5200 or 5500K on the S2, and 4900K on the TK16. I guess the exposure (ISO and shutter) were in automatic, as I normally only use them indoor for beamshot comparison!

That difference in K may have led to the “orangish” photo (those are still orange bulb lights, LED hasn’t arrive there yet Sick )

It doesn’t take the throw in the TK16 though Wink

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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The farthest tree is at 115m:

This isn’t accurate as you see it right? Is the TIR appears to be more intense and larger hot spot. Instead it should be larger hot spot and less intense but the camera is cranking up the brightness to compensate, yes?

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contactcr wrote:
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The farthest tree is at 115m:

This isn’t accurate as you see it right? Is the TIR appears to be more intense and larger hot spot. Instead it should be larger hot spot and less intense but the camera is cranking up the brightness to compensate, yes?

The beam with the TIR is indeed intense Wink
As I mentioned, the beam with these Osram and Carclo 10507 is intense, not floody. There is “only” hotspot and it is very narrow.
I put the beams below in my review and compared it with other TIR lenses. There is no pair to this one Wink
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1538909#comment-1538909
These are all from the TK16 with Osram!

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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MascaratumB wrote:
As I mentioned, the beam with these Osram and Carclo 10507 is intense, not floody. There is “only” hotspot and it is very narrow.

Wow! I never knew a TIR could make such a nice, tight beam! Love

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likevvii wrote:

L2 album

Nice work, nice beam !

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DavidEF wrote:
MascaratumB wrote:
As I mentioned, the beam with these Osram and Carclo 10507 is intense, not floody. There is “only” hotspot and it is very narrow.

Wow! I never knew a TIR could make such a nice, tight beam! Love


It has rings when shining it to a white wall, but towards the air outdoor, no spill and no rings, just this narrow beam!

And I just had a golden opportunity to compare them! Fog came down to town so I went out to enjoy it!
TK16 on the left, S2 on the right!

And a little disclosure, the TK16 was on ECO mode on this photo, not in POWER mode. Meaning, the turbo was around 780 lumens and not 1300 lumens Silly

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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likevvii wrote:
For those who messaged me about mounting the lens, I have the link to the album below. I used 3D printed parts to seat the lens perfectly focused. After screwing on the head, the lens would be very secured and unable to move. I was able to adjust the RLT collar easily because the lens comes off very easily. However, it took about 14 iterations of 3D prints before I got the right fitment and focus.

L2 album

I really want to reach 1Mcd with the convoy L2 host. The best thing about the L2 is that it is very compact and the cooling is great because the entire head is the pill. The convoy L2 allows for a max ~58mm diameter lens. I am in the process of talking to multiple suppliers in China to produce a precision grounded thin double aspherical lens so the convex bulge wouldn’t stick out of the L2 head.

It might be easier to make your 3D printed piece run parallel and then flare out just past the bezel for the time being, no? Could even have it rest of the crenelations or something.

For this advice, please send one set of your lens adapters. PM me for address I have an L2 host sitting at home right now.

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I built L21A with the CULNM1.TG led and had some interesting results in a somewhat bad way.

So far in my limited experience with small die leds most of them if not all (black flat being the worst) required the reflector to sit like crazy low, even sometimes it was required to file the reflector in order to focus the leds properly. Today when i finished the L21A build i took one of the normal xp Convoy gasket and reamed it to 5.5mm to fit the CULNM1.TG led and on my surprise after few different gaskets and heights i somehow think that even the stock height of the gasket seems too low for this led.

Has anyone built L2/L21A with this led and can help me figure out how to focus this led properly, the beam is horrible, small bright hotspot with huge fairly bright corona and some rings of course.

Measured intensity was 385.000cd, i think this is a bit low.

Gasket height about 0.5mm

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BobbyMK, maybe try this method: Flashlight collimation

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Focusing required me a lot of trial and error, but finally in my C8 it is (almost) perfect and now i have a clean thin beam doing over 200 kCd in a C8 on 2,8 A.
I think it should be able to do more, but then i have to file down my reflector and bezel, something which i don’t feel like doing it. Maybe later

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DavidEF wrote:
BobbyMK, maybe try this method: Flashlight collimation

Might try this when ill find time to test and actually read everything there.

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Focusing required me a lot of trial and error, but finally in my C8 it is (almost) perfect and now i have a clean thin beam doing over 200 kCd in a C8 on 2,8 A. I think it should be able to do more, but then i have to file down my reflector and bezel, something which i don’t feel like doing it. Maybe later

I also have C8 with the 1mm², highest ive seen was 214kcd and i am almost 100% sure that it does not need any modifications on the host in order to be properly focused, this flashlight has one of the cleanest beams ive ever had in a modified thrower. With that said i do not know how you all get these numbers, 200kcd @ 2.8A is insanely good, throw some more amps at that led… it begs you lol Big Smile

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After this and this post, I put the 2 flashlights (Convoy S2 and Acbeam TK16) under the same conditions (same night, same specs on the camera). Here are the comparative beamshots (TK16 left, S2 right):

198m (Farthest trees)

208m (House)

310m (white factory)

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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Those who are struggling whith centering and focusing may like this:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000086998352.html

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Dlux wrote:

Those who are struggling whith centering and focusing may like this:


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000086998352.html


If you have a link for 4040 my second CULNM1 and my Luxeon Vs will thank you kindly. And my fingertips. Reaming 3535 a centering ring hurt my fingertips.

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I found that using a 5.5mm drill bit works perfectly fine and no fingers will be hurt during the process. It usually takes me 2-3 min by hand to drill the normal xp convoy gaskets.

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Sorry, i have not seen any 4040 gasket.

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MascaratumB wrote:
After this and this post, I put the 2 flashlights (Convoy S2 and Acbeam TK16) under the same conditions (same night, same specs on the camera). Here are the comparative beamshots (TK16 left, S2 right):

Wait, so TIR optics have larger spill compared to reflector on s2 ? is it because optics are tiny 10mm or something else ?
because i’ve ordered 20mm optics (10199) to use with this osram led and i want almost 0 spill to decrease glare. did i made a wrong choice ?

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slopegatri70 wrote:
MascaratumB wrote:
After this and this post, I put the 2 flashlights (Convoy S2 and Acbeam TK16) under the same conditions (same night, same specs on the camera). Here are the comparative beamshots (TK16 left, S2 right):

Wait, so TIR optics have larger spill compared to reflector on s2 ? is it because optics are tiny 10mm or something else ?
because i’ve ordered 20mm optics (10199) to use with this osram led and i want almost 0 spill to decrease glare. did i made a wrong choice ?

Please note that this is a TRIPLE TIR (carclo 10507) not a single led TIR! It has 3 White Flat leds below it so the beam will be wider than the S2 (1 White Flat + Smooth reflector)!
About your choice, I am not sure because I don’t know that optic. Also, once it is a TIR (Total Internal Reflection) I am not sure if you will be able to get 0 spill on it! But please report when you have it!

Also, please note that the Acebeam has a very that hotspot but then it has “rings” around it! So the spill is still there but it is not so much delineated.
See them here:
Convoy S2 (Left) vs Acebeam TK16 (Right)

[REVIEWS] ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 // AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 // BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 // BRINYTE: T28 // DQG: AA Slim Ti // FIREFLIES: ROT66 GEN II // HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA // KLARUS: XT1C // LIVARNOLUX: 314791 // LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 // NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 // ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 // OLIGHT: M2R Warrior // ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro // ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 // SKILHUNT: M150 / M200 // SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B // WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 / TO50R / E19 // XTAR: PB2 Charger // Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 // TIR: 1 / 2 // Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 /// My Collection /// My Review's Blog (PT) /// OL Contest 2019 /// GIVEAWAY: 1 / 2

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MascaratumB wrote:

Please note that this is a TRIPLE TIR (carclo 10507) not a single led TIR! It has 3 White Flat leds below it so the beam will be wider than the S2 (1 White Flat + Smooth reflector)!
About your choice, I am not sure because I don’t know that optic. Also, once it is a TIR (Total Internal Reflection) I am not sure if you will be able to get 0 spill on it! But please report when you have it!

Also, please note that the Acebeam has a very that hotspot but then it has “rings” around it! So the spill is still there but it is not so much delineated.
See them here:
Convoy S2 (Left) vs Acebeam TK16 (Right)
!{width:98%}https://i.imgur.com/tWHmCIX.jpg!

Yes, that’s what i thought after posting that as well, since it’s 3×10mm optics beam will be wider than single 20mm optic such as carclo 10199.
since you own both lights, maybe you can answer this – s2 vs tk16, which one has more glare if it’s switched on towards year direction but not pointed at your eyes straight ? i believe s2 should have more glare because reflector.

thing is i’m trying to modify my motorcycle auxiliary spot lights, to reduce glare for incoming traffic. so far i have tried replacing stock xml2s to CSLNM1, it did increase throw and reduced glare tiny bit, but leds got burned within 2-3 hrs because low clearance between reflector and led mcpcb short the wires. so now i’m trying to replace reflector with 20mm tir optics. with CSLNM1. hopefully it will work better.

thanks

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Here is a comparison for the TK16 Osram edition (L) vs a Jaxman E2L with triple nichia 219c 4000K ® (both lights use the same Carclo 10507 optics)

And here is a comparison for the TK16 (L) vs a Convoy S2+ XPL-HI with SMO reflector and 4B tint ®

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Which is left and which is right? With such overexposure on the left beam it is difficult to judge the beam shape.

Edit: I think I get it, I was distracted by the direct reflections by the shiny garage door.

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Yokiamy wrote:
Focusing required me a lot of trial and error, but finally in my C8 it is (almost) perfect and now i have a clean thin beam doing over 200 kCd in a C8 on 2,8 A. I think it should be able to do more, but then i have to file down my reflector and bezel, something which i don’t feel like doing it. Maybe later

And maybe a bit of luck. I put a white flat in a C8 and the results were almost perfect. Almost
Though I did make some mistakes along the way and a lot of thing could have been done better.
So I bought a set of identical or better parts, treated those with utmost care, and tried to build a perfect one.
To make a long story short: despite my efforts, whatever I tried, it did not even come close to the first light.

Lights are like dogs, treat them well and with respect, because you might never find another one like the first.

You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.

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can we reflow CSLNM1.TG on a mcpcb which is designed for black flat ? is there any issues with thermal pad being cathode, since white flat has isolated thermal pad ?

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I need to report that i’ve placed CSLPM1.TG 2mm in GT mini using L4P 20mm 3030MCPCB.
I had protected 18650 nearby so i throw it in and ran the sucker. After few reflector adjustments beam was ok.
And now cute part, finally found IMR 18650 and replaced the protected cell but now ramping to HI is much much brighter. And then double click for Turbo showed angry blue!
Was a bit surprised cause some modders are running it hard in GT mini and i have to use protected cell 8/

Didn’t meassure amps on the tail cause of lack of time but i was curious did anyone else also got the same results and at which amps?

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