Massive post on where to get lithium-ion batteries everywhere in the world! Look at Post 2-5 for info, And Canada Post 123

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That’s not too good of a deal of 10x NCR18650GAs.

Here’s one at 4,99$US/cell:
https://www.illumn.com/18650-sanyo-ncr18650ga-3500mah-high-discharge-fla...

Slightly cheaper MJ1 at Liion Wholesale:
https://liionwholesale.com/collections/batteries/products/lg-mj1-18650-b...

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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Thanks for that !.. I had a cart at Liion for about the same as the ebay guy , with shipping..
At Ilumn, I can get two more for that price !
Thanks!

Erg
Forgot I wanted to toss a 21700 in there ..Hope they can do it after the fact

anyone in NE ILLinois into get togethers?

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Very helpful post. Thanks much!

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In case someone is interested, 192led is featuring a 20% OFF code right now, and some of their battery offers are very good. Like NCR18650BMs, INR18650-29Es, US18650VTC6s maybe, INR18650-30Qs, Shockli 21700 4000mAh and 26650 5500mAh even cheaper than in their AE store after coupon, even the UltraFire BRC 18350 1100mAh protected cell (God knows what cell are they using right now under the wrap).

At your own risk of course. 

 

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192led is very shady. They never reply to e-mails, provided inexistent tracking number. I filed a complaint to paypal.
Maybe is best not to advertise them anymore.

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US:

RTD Vapor
https://www.rtdvapor.com/

I have ordered from them before. They have reasonable shipping prices and a pretty big selection of higher end batteries.

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In Europe I find myself very well with Nkon; lately I bought 20×18650 Samsung INR18650-29E 2900mAh to 3 euros each, including the tracked shipping.

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korkfoto wrote:
192led is very shady. They never reply to e-mails, provided inexistent tracking number. I filed a complaint to paypal.
Maybe is best not to advertise them anymore.

The actual problem here is PayPal's mandatory shipment tracking number policy. Tracked shipping is more expensive than untracked, and when margins are super tight that can be the difference between sales profits or not.

Your complaint is thus not due. I mean, you should revoke it and at the very least wait a couple months before submitting the first moaning gestures. Of course this is just my point of view.

Years ago this was no issue. Now if you shop on eBay it becomes clear super quick, or do you expect tracked shipments for less than $1 items? LoL!

 

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Has anyone verified the cells from 192led as genuine? Prices seem a little too good to be true.

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Thanks for the thread BSM. Big Smile

Liionwholsale is my hometown dealer. 0.9 miles away! Jon, the owner lives across the street from me.Their customer service can not be beat, prices are great and it is SO convenient for me,,,plus NO SHIPPING!

My choices in order

1.Liionwholsale.com
2.Illumns. great place also. Craig is a great guy,,,,,,been buying from them the longest
3.mAh batteries

Possible new editions for your list?

http://goinggear.com/

https://mahbattery.com/

mAh battery had some super, super low prices for about 10 months[when they first opened]. Now most batteries are a bit higher than Liionwholesale, Still a reputable place

Your thread made me realize how Lucky I am to live in USA for my hobby.

CAPO[means BOSS in Italian] wanted to thank you also!

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US:

RTD Vapor
https://www.rtdvapor.com/

I have ordered from them before. They have reasonable shipping prices and a pretty big selection of higher end batteries.

Thanks,,,,,,,,,,I forgot about them. Another good place about 75 minutes from me.I purchased from them 3X and have always been satisfied.

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wolfdog1226 wrote:
Thanks for the thread BSM. Big Smile

Liionwholsale is my hometown dealer. 0.9 miles away! Jon, the owner lives across the street from me. Their customer service can not be beat, prices are great and it is SO convenient for me,,,plus NO SHIPPING!

Seriously? I’ve messaged Lionwholesale and they never emailed back regarding if they ship to New Zealand for a bulk order :/

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Barkuti wrote:

korkfoto wrote:
192led is very shady. They never reply to e-mails, provided inexistent tracking number. I filed a complaint to paypal.
Maybe is best not to advertise them anymore.

The actual problem here is PayPal’s mandatory shipment tracking number policy. Tracked shipping is more expensive than untracked, and when margins are super tight that can be the difference between sales profits or not.


Your complaint is thus not due. I mean, you should revoke it and at the very least wait a couple months before submitting the first moaning gestures. Of course this is just my point of view.


Years ago this was no issue. Now if you shop on eBay it becomes clear super quick, or do you expect tracked shipments for less than $1 items? LoL!


 


Cheers Party 

I expect them to answer to e-mails/messages. You know, at least the usual bullshit messages delivered by the unscrupulous Chinese sellers trying to convince you to drop the dispute.
And they don’t have a support/ticketing system.

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wolfdog1226 wrote:
Thanks for the thread BSM. Big Smile

Liionwholsale is my hometown dealer. 0.9 miles away! Jon, the owner lives across the street from me. Their customer service can not be beat, prices are great and it is SO convenient for me,,,plus NO SHIPPING!

Seriously? I’ve messaged Lionwholesale and they never emailed back regarding if they ship to New Zealand for a bulk order :/

Almost certain they state on their website that they do NOT ship overseas.

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They do ship… if you can actually pay for it Big Smile

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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Soooo, UPDATE

I finally received my 18650s from the Aliya Battery Store: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1382210?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.7a5b23dbk...

And I can say that they are truly genuine, and arrived on time to Canada!

Proofs and pictures of legitimacy:

1. They all weigh the same, around 45,9g and 47,2g.

2. The NCR18650GAs have the protruding flat top, and the Samsung 30Qs have a 3 pole positive terminal. No problem there.

3. The voltage of all 30Qs is 3,41V, and 3,51V for the NCR18650GAs. So, conform to shipping regulations.

Capacities will be tested later this week, along with internal resistance.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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@BlueSwordM

I ordered a day after you did and also received my order today. Interesting that the sender’s address is in Greensboro, NC, USA. Not that it really matters but it seems that Aliya is using an intermediary (?) address in the US that later ships to Canada through USPS. No big deal as long as the cells are genuine, which seem to be the case.

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Ahhh, so that was why there was a DHL Packet sticker and a USPS note.

Thank you Smile

What cells did you order?

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BlueSwordM wrote:
Ahhh, so that was why there was a DHL Packet sticker and a USPS note.

Thank you Smile

What cells did you order?

6× 30Qs and 6x VTC6s. These are my first VTC6s so I cannot compare, but the 30Qs physically look the same as the others I got from BG in the past (haven’t done testing yet).

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I used these guys in the UK last week

EcoLux: http://www.ecoluxshopdirect.co.uk/

All good, no problems.

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So, now, some capacity tests!

I’m using my own battery holder with my own large Beryllium Copper spring, which allows accurate capacity testing up to 3A without a 4 wire method.

-I first started testing the NCR18650GA at 2A current, with a charge voltage of 4,185V and ending voltage of 2,6V.

Capacity at 2,6V, being 3308mAh.

Energy at 2,6V, being 11,56Wh.

Capacity at 2,8V to compare with HKJ.

Nothing checks out, so I can confidently say NCR18650GAs from the Aliya Battery Store are legit

-For the Samsung 30Q, it has been tested at 3A, with an ending voltage of 2,6V and charge voltage of 4,191V.

Capacity at 2,6V, being 2963mAh.

Energy at 2,6V, being 10,28Wh.

Capacity at 2,8V, being 2865mAh.

Energy at 2,8V, being 10,05Wh.

With the tests in mind, I can confidently say that the Samsung 30Q from Aliya Battery Store is legitimate

To end on a final note, my results are quite precise, with good accuracy, but on each of the tests, I did not account for the voltage drop of 0,05V during the tests because of the XT60 connectors and wiring, which may slightly have affected energy tests due to lower overall voltage on discharge.

Therefore, all batteries from the Aliya Battery Store, as of December 2018, are all considered legitimate, can be ordered from the link below:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1382210

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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BlueSwordM wrote:
The NCR18650GAs have the protruding flat top

Can these cells be used where button tops are specified?

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In most cases, yes.

But not all cases are positive. Still better than other flat tops though.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
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Too bad they don’t sell button tops.

@BlueSwordM, do you know if these raised flat tops would work in a Meteor M43 or the 26650 in a DQG Tiny 26650?

Thanks for all the info and testing.

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The raised flat tops NCR18650GAs work in my BLF Q8, so it would work in the Meteor M43.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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Awesome, thanks!

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Struggling to find any reliable store to ship to South Africa since Banggood stopped again.
I now have more flashlights/powerbanks than batteries, a sad state of affairs.
I have tried all the recommended international ones in this thread, no luck so far.
Anyone have any ideas?

Beam me up!

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INTERNAL RESISTANCE TESTING FOR THE SAMSUNG 30Q Evil

Here is a chart with some DC internal resistance values.

The 30Q has 21mOhms of internal resistance according to this graph.

And with my measurement, a minimum measured DC internal resistance of 21mOhm!

Right on spec! Actually, better than most 30Qs. Big Smile

I can therefore say again, that the 30Q from the Aliya Battery Store is a legit cell.

So, for Canadians all around the country, you can be assured to get legitimate cells from Aliya’s Battery Store. It does take about a month, so not too bad from China at all:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1382210

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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