Electro Lumens Search and Rescue ST90 upgrade. Completed post 31, 17.2.19

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Electro Lumens Search and Rescue ST90 upgrade. Completed post 31, 17.2.19

For a little history on this torch below is a couple of links.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/11960

http://elektrolumens.com/Search-Rescue/Search-And-Rescue-Extreme.html

I was asked by a member here to bring this torch up to date. Not knowing anything about the Electro Lumens Search and Rescue ST90 I only to gladly accepted the challenge as long as he was in no hurry to receive the torch back. Needless to say I have had the torch since July and only now have had time to start the mod.

My initial impressions of the torch was that its built like a Battleship and certainly deserves a second life. Being the sentimentalist (silly old fart) I am, there is no way I’d modify any of the standard parts on this torch so it could not be returned back into a stock light.

Firstly a picture to show the size of the torch compared to the BLF GT and a C8 for good measure. Back in its day it must have been huge as Its still large now.

The driver being used is one of Lexels with the BLF GT firmware which will push an XHP70 2 led at 8 amps constant output on high.

Power will be supplied by eight 18650’s held in place with two BLF GT battery holders.

With these items in hand a mud map was drawn up to get the party started.

A search of the aluminium off cut/scrap bin turned up nothing useful for the pill.

The poor old power hacksaw was dragged out from its neglected home under the bench and a piece of 75mm diameter bar was cut to 70mm in length. The length is a guess so hopefully it will be long enough.

The thread for the head was then machined into the pill (probably not the right term here as the battery tube will thread into this part as well). I was surprised with the thread as it was metric. Wayne was ahead of his time. Smile
The standard oring will be used in the machined groove.

Yes, the bar in the chuck is 75mm, 3’‘ in diameter.

And for the last picture today is the C8 back held up against the pill to give an idea on the size this beast of a light was originally built like.

Update post 7.
Update post 11.
Update post 12.
Update post 28.
Update post 31.

 

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For Ron.

 

djozz quotes, "it came with chinese lettering that is chinese to me".

                      "My man mousehole needs one too"

old4570 said "I'm not an expert , so don't suffer from any such technical restrictions".

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Well if this works out, I might get me one Wink Beer

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Nice work on a classic!

You may let Wayne know of this project, I think he may like it, last year at least he chimed in on BLF once more so he may still read his PM’s.

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Super kewl project Glasses

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Just on a side note I think the reflector is the same as I used in the Old Lumens tribute torch which has an XHP70 led in it.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/47557

I’ll try and track Wayne down.djozz. Beer

If you dont get one Glenn I’ll have to leave town. Facepalm

Thanks pp. Yep I’m enjoying this one, so far. Smile

 

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The driver retainer ring was made next. This ring is broad as it will also be the earth contact from the battery carrier to the driver.

The battery tube material ideally would be 2’‘ diameter. Unfortunately we dont have this size in Australia, 50mm being the closest. The other option was to machine the tube from solid which I did not want to do.
I’m a total novice when it comes to welding aluminium so this should give a few out there a good chuckle. I decided to build up one end (which is now both ends, not shown here) with weld and machine this down to about a mm more than required at this stage. The end welded here will be threaded for the standard tailcap.
I have no idea if I can make this work yet but will persevere until it doesn’t or does work.

The battery tube was then machined to length. A fixed steady rest was used to stop the battery tube from getting ripped out of the chuck from the side load the cutting tool applies to the metal as it is cut.

Back to the driver retainer.
I wanted to use a Convoy S2+ metal switch button. The pill was set up in the mill and a hole drilled so this could be set up square in the lathe for threading.

Unfortunately the setting up of the pill in the four jaw chuck did not go well and damage to the battery tube thread resulted. As the length on this part was critical a lot of messing around fixing it was required.

The decision was made to purchase a small angle plate and bolt this to the lathe face plate. Its the large angle at the bottom.
The pill was then set up square and clamped to the angle plate with angles used as a clamp.

The hole for the thread was machined to the correct diameter and a recess machined for clearance around the switch. The thread for the metal switch is 12.4mm in diameter. Just less than half an inch.

The thread was cut by turning the face plate by hand instead of running the lathe powered up.

And we end up with this. Looking from the inside. I love using items designed by members here on the forum. and this is the switch mount.

https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/jlidNxF6

It can be found in Rufusbducks thread.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/29562

And the switch button from the outside.

One last picture showing the switch, switch pad and S2+ metal switch button ass.

 

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Welding aluminium I understand is difficult, well done, it looks like the plan worked!

Nice progress Smile

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How fast did you spin the face plate set up? And how far out of balance was it?

Nice work btw. I hardly ever weld and it always turns out like cocky s#1t so your aluminium looks fine to me.

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djozz wrote:
Welding aluminium I understand is difficult, well done, it looks like the plan worked!

Nice progress Smile


I’ll find out if the plan worked when l knurl the tube. At the moment I need to make a boring bar to bore the tube as mine are to small and the one at work flexed the tube to much.
A mandrel to hold the tube when it gets knurled will have to be made to hold it rigid. Hopefully all that will work. If not there will be a lot more work. Sad
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How fast did you spin the face plate set up? And how far out of balance was it?

It was way out of balance. I’d guess I could only get about a 100 RPM before the whole lathe shook to much for comfort.

 

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The battery tube has been a source of frustration and a lot of learning has happening.
The original battery tube in the above pictures has been tossed in the bin. It needed enlarging slightly on the inside diameter to fit the battery carriers. I thought the easiest way to do this would be with a hone as I did not have a boring bar that would do this job.
I was wrong as the hone wore itself out without really doing a lot to the inside diameter.
I decided to then make a boring bar and grind a piece of tool steel to do the cutting. When machining the inside diameter with the new boring bar the tool steel would lose its edge without really doing any cutting. It took far to long for me to realise that the cutting edge was being dulled from the hone stone that must have embedded itself in the aluminium.
The trash can came beckoning.
A new battery tube was started from scratch. The below picture is of the home made boring bar made from a piece of 1’‘ round 1020 bar.

The length of the cut was about 165mm.

And at last we had success.

The weld was then machined down so the switch area of the head would screw on.

And at last.

 

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The pill section was placed in the chuck to hold the battery tube so the profile could be machined.

The thread for the tailcap was then machined and the tube surface turned flat. There was a slight mistake by me setting the levers for the thread pitch. Istead of the original 1.25mm pitch it is 1mm pitch which means the standard tailcap will not be used.

The tailcap is made from a piece of 63mm diameter brass bar.

The inside of the tailcap was machined ready for threading.

A neat thread is always welcome.

The power hacksaw was again put to use.

A mandrel was turned up to hold the tailcap to allow the end to be machined up.

 

djozz quotes, "it came with chinese lettering that is chinese to me".

                      "My man mousehole needs one too"

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Poor you, doing all that extra stuff! All for that classic ST90! Wayne will be proud though. Smile

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Wayne may have finished modding this light months ago. Facepalm

 

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Great work so far!!!

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Very cool! Beer Nice idea, save, comeback with the brass tail cap! Thumbs Up

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The extra weight of the brass may balance the torch a little better as the head really is built like a tank.

 

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MRsDNF wrote:
The extra weight of the brass may balance the torch a little better as the head really is built like a tank.

Yep it is a Beast! Is the aluminum going to be anodized?

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If I did not have a full time job and a spare shed I’d love to get into Anodising but at the moment unfortunately no. Acid here is also on the banned list of items we can purchase.

 

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Some Rare Elektro Lumen lights…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Elektro-Lumens-Fire-Sword-V-3000-Lumen-LED-Flashlight-with-Google-branding/142887826281?hash=item2144c73369:g:viEAAOSwPCtbXlTQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elektro-Lumens-Fire-Sword-3k-Lumens-LED-Flashlight-collector-security-rare/303022602348?hash=item468d8df86c:g:4t8AAOSw~D5cNAKK

Nobody anodizes down-under?

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I’ll leave it up to the owner of the torch if he wants to get it anodised by a third party.
I wont be doing anything to the stock components so the torch can be converted easily back to standard.
I’m a bit of an old sentimentalist at heart. Smile

 

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Lol, how much of the original light will be used in this?

The less the better for us, we like watching Glasses

Great job Beer

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Appreciate the comment. Beer
The head assembly is the only used item from the original torch.
Theres not a lot left to do. The tailcap to finish off and then assembly. Just need time.
There was a 12 hour race on idiot box yesterday that got in the way. Facepalm

 

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I missed this one awesome project!

The hacksaw looks like its steam powered Silly

I was at the Bathurst 12 hours yesterday i watched about 6 hours from half way. It was so damn hot. I went for a walk to see if i could find Mick Doohan but could find him.

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It was steam powered when l was using it as the shed was a sauna. Micky Doohan was in the 888 teams garage and the Mercedes area. Not sure he ventured much further than that. Was a good race on the tv. How was the noise from the different engines? The Bentleys were a rockets at one stage. Shame the driver stuffed up twice at the end of the pit lane.

 

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Yea most of the cars where not to loud compared to other events like V8 supercars or F1. Loudest car was the mustangs freaking deafening you could also hear the turbos spooling comming around the bend. Like the aston and merc must have been big bores they where just rumbling.
I think the Aston Martin is a V12. The Porsche GT3s didn’t sound that great but they got the job done.

The end was good safety car came out with a few laps left. I seen one of the Aston Martin retire with a few laps left i think. Also the KTM came back on car carrier with a few laps left. Bloody Nissan i didn’t see what happen but they hit some one and got disqualified.

I was at the start of the main straight where the start/finish is. I bought the mountain pass drove up but not much room by the time we got there so i headed back down.

Took my esky and fold up chair and decided to buy a beach umbrella from bunnings. Lucky we did it was a crazy hot day. I had a tarp and rope with me was hoping to set up under a tree lol.

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The Nissan got disqualified because they did not come in for a drive through penalty. Just kept on going around.
Talking about being hot. Someone had a temp gun and pit lane surface was 69 degrees.
Sounds like you had a good time. Thanks for the update. Beer

 

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Todays update brings us very close to the finish of the upgrade.

The tailcap was placed in the mill and 12 × 12mm grooves were machined into the side.

Holes for the wiring and hold down screws for the MCPCB were machined into the pill.

A comparison of the discarded battery tube with the final product showing why the tube was welded up.

A copper plug 2.1mm in length was soldered to the Lexel driver to allow the battery tube contact to slightly compress when assembled.

And finally a few bling shots.

Battery tube.

The pill and driver retainer. The retainer was machined slightly as the earth ring on the driver sits slightly below the driver surface.

The pill.

The driver uninstalled and installed. On initial testing the driver did not work which was traced to a faulty switch.

And finally the completed tailcap.

 

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Love sweeeet Thumbs Up Heavy Duty Search and Rescue Light!

. Love the Knurl Job! Beer

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Lots of shiny parts Love very nice

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After the switch failure yesterday which until diagnosed causes just a little anxiety we have light. Always a good sign when finishing a torch.

I’ll finish with a couple of pictures with the Old Lumens tribute torch. Both these torches have the same reflector.

Thanks all for reading and your comments. Smile

 

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