PREDICTING the biggest flash developments that'll hit in 2019.....

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PREDICTING the biggest flash developments that'll hit in 2019.....

1). I predict the Osram HX Boost led will shake up this place pretty good. Cool

2). The LEP market will go basically nowhere except for narrow niche applications as its high relative cost vs HX Boost led low cost performance will overshadow its initial impact. The other Osram offerings will get overshadowed too. I mean why be called the new “throw king” when your own HX Boost will kick everyone else’s azz?

3). Enderman will break the HANDHELD led flash throw record. Grad

Watt are your predictions BLFers?

Let’s see if there’s a Flashstradamus amoung us. Hey that’s almost catchy. Shocked

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  • Zebralight will realize that people like lights with good emitters, and start using more HIs and LH351Ds.
  • Sofirn will continue listening to reviewer/community feedback and make some excellent budget lights.
  • CRX will continue making magical, shiny pieces of functional art.
  • US flashaholics will get screwed over by tarrifs.
  • Wowtac will release an AA/14500 light.
  • Imalent will make a light that hits 80,000 lumens.
  • Olight’s engineers will stop messing around with white LEDs and go straight to blue emitters.

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California will ban flashlights with strobe. Millions of flashlights will have to be turned over authorities or owners could be sentenced to 12months imprisonment and a $2,500.00 fine.

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California will ban flashlights with strobe. Millions of flashlights will have to be turned over authorities or owners could be sentenced to 12months imprisonment and a $2,500.00 fine.

U could end up right. Or any flash with a batt capacity greater than 2 X 18650 will be banned. A high capacity flash ban. LOLShocked

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The FW3A will be finished.

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  1. FW3A and the Ultimate Lantern will both be done in time for Christmas. Wink
  2. Just a month (or less) after HX Boost is the standard in every thrower, some LED manufacturer will make a new emitter that blows it out of the water. Facepalm
  3. Dale will finish a new scratch made light that reaches 100,000 lumens from a single 21700 cell. Crazy
  4. Lumintop will round out the GT line of throwers with a 10440 size and 26650 size and will switch to using “White Flat” emitters in all of them. Cash
  5. raccoon city will welcome someone to BLF who actually doesn’t like Milla, so he will bring the “Licker” out of retirement for that guy/gal. Silly

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Young people in Generation “?” will figure out that cheap postal rates and cheap lights might be good for them personally but bad for rest of the collective free world and their grandchildren.

The High CRI COB LED announcement from CREE earlier this year will become significant.

Protective cells will make a comeback due to the obvious in many applications.

Prices will necessarily double or more for most of what has been dumped here previously for good reason.

Let the outrage begin.

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TK will finally introduce her version of WOP (wireless optical programming) for the multitudes.

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Wowtac will release an AA/14500 light.

I don’t think so. Thrunite already sells the T10v2 for $20, and it’s cheaper to make a low-end 18650 light than a low-end AA/14500 light because a simple linear driver will work.

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chadvone wrote:
The FW3A will be finished.

I’m am hopeful but quite doubtful. If it’s ever done it will end up being the FW3.14159265358979323846264338A.

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Haha thanks Silly
I like your enthusiasm!

Currently Polar Li is making his 100+Mcd searchlight handheld (albeit a bit big and heavy) so I’m looking forward to seeing the lux numbers from him, because that will definitely break the current 52Mcd record.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?449698-1-Mcd-Xenon-Fl...
So yeah, it will definitely be hard to beat that, but we will have to see, 2019 will be an interesting year Smile

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Yuji LED will come out with an actual flashlight ( 18650 )

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On November 30th 2019, California will begin to register ALL flashlight sales. Flashlights produced after 2019 will be required to carry an engraved serial number, no more than a total of 1200 lumens allowed to be purchased by one individual per month, all flashlight sales will be limited to those over 21 years of age. No flashlight will be allowed to contain or produce a “Strobe” mode. Lanyards can be no larger than 6” and must be firmly attached to flashlight. All flashlight owners must pass a proficiency course every other year, the test will be written and will cost $37.00. Failure to comply with these new laws could result in incarceration, fine and or confiscation of your Flashlights. California again leads the nation in new “Tactical Flashlight” era.
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California will require a Prop 65 cancer warning on all flashlights, batteries and LED’s.
Texas will banish the night.

Anyone feel if electricity and running water was just invented California would never approve it as safe for house hold use.

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In 2019 with the passage of California’s new law regarding ownership of flashlights, which was quickly followed by all 50 States, with regards to the usage of the phrase “Tactical Flashlights” marketers quickly realize that the word Tactical for a flashlight is rather ridiculous and changes it to “ Utilitarian Flashlight” were it is then countered with a new clause in the law that states,
Each light must be designed to be useful or practical rather than attractive.
This will cause great confusion being subjective and eventually leads to the banning of flashlight sales outright,
Then import taxes will be imposed on China, if not a possible ban of all electronics coming from China and a ban on all exports of electronics to China, and the only people who will have beautiful tactical lights with be those who were already master craftsman at BLF before all this junk went into effect and those skilled craftsman will sell their lights for extremely high prices to the severely addicted.

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This California bashing is really getting tedious.

I hope to see 2000+ lumen regulated output flashlights come down in price to rival our linear driven 1000ish lumen wonders. May not happen but one can hope.

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Certainly didn’t occur to me that I was bashing CA., and therefore I am sorry if I offended a Ca. resident,
I could have just as easily said Washington State but it just wouldn’t be the same and besides I was only following a previously posted Flashstradamus prediction.
Sorry..
Edit: I did say quickly followed by all 50 states, my disclaimer as to singling out any one nutty state from another.

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Russia launches different satan2 (rs-28 sarmat) and we have..”.the biggest flash developments that’ll hit in 2019…..“a sea pure bright white light.

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raccoon city wrote:

California is a little crazy, but the weather here is so nice!  8^)


I want to make it to Cali someday, various places are on my bucket list.

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Enderman wrote:
Haha thanks Silly
I like your enthusiasm!

Currently Polar Li is making his 100+Mcd searchlight handheld (albeit a bit big and heavy) so I’m looking forward to seeing the lux numbers from him, because that will definitely break the current 52Mcd record.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?449698-1-Mcd-Xenon-Fl...
So yeah, it will definitely be hard to beat that, but we will have to see, 2019 will be an interesting year Smile

I’m talking about LED handheld. Polar Li is going xenon. Might as well do an HID on steroids or a mini ARC welder. Not truly impressed. Xenon is like comparing a blown dragster that uses nitromethane vs Pro Stock. Not to mean the engineering isn’t impressive. It is.

LED flash is watt separates the studs from the geldings. It’s what 99.9% mod on CPF and BLF these days.

IMO there should be a handheld weight limit in order to call anything “handheld” for purposes of breaking that class record.

If I were a gorilla I too could hoist a flash containing 75lbs of lithiums in one hand butt I would be BSing to really claim it is recognized as a typically plausible handheld unit. LOL

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nottawhackjob wrote:
Enderman wrote:
Haha thanks Silly
I like your enthusiasm!

Currently Polar Li is making his 100+Mcd searchlight handheld (albeit a bit big and heavy) so I’m looking forward to seeing the lux numbers from him, because that will definitely break the current 52Mcd record.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?449698-1-Mcd-Xenon-Fl...
So yeah, it will definitely be hard to beat that, but we will have to see, 2019 will be an interesting year Smile

I’m talking about LED handheld. Polar Li is going xenon. Might as well do an HID on steroids or a mini ARC welder. Not truly impressed. Xenon is like comparing a blown dragster that uses nitromethane vs Pro Stock. Not to mean the engineering isn’t impressive. It is.

LED flash is watt separates the studs from the geldings. It’s what 99.9% mod on CPF and BLF these days.

IMO there should be a handheld weight limit in order to call anything “handheld” for purposes of breaking that class record.

If I were a gorilla I too could hoist a flash containing 75lbs of lithiums in one hand butt I would be BSing to really claim it is recognized as a typically plausible handheld unit. LOL

What is the record for a single cell light? Regardless of the size of the cell but at least easily attainable by the general public, and hauling a marine or automobile battery in a wagon don’t count.

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I also gotta say that IMO the BLF GT format is just about pushing the semi-PRACTICAL “handheld” envelope to the max.

So if Endy were to take on this challenge a multi-cell LED host is IMO record-breaking acceptable. I assume to achieve that throw he would go with a single emitter. Wavien collared? If he can swing it heck ya butt unlikely if GT dimensioned. Soooooooo, aspheric or reflectored. Hmmmmmm. LEP class for now doesn’t count – yet I’m sure it will someday.

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I don’t think LED really has a future for super far throw, it is better suited to high CRIs and high efficiency.
It’s just not high enough intensity blue light behind the phosphor.

If anything can beat a short arc, it will have to be laser phosphor.
It’s essentially the same as an LED, but the blue light behind the phosphor is more directional (because it is a laser instead) and can therefore be concentrated into a small point.

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Enderman wrote:
I don’t think LED really has a future for super far throw, it is better suited to high CRIs and high efficiency.
It’s just not high enough intensity blue light behind the phosphor.

If anything can beat a short arc, it will have to be laser phosphor.
It’s essentially the same as an LED, but the blue light behind the phosphor is more directional (because it is a laser instead) and can therefore be concentrated into a small point.

Ok well heck LEP it is then. Short arc vs extreme led (LEP). From watt I’m seeing the size to output ratio for an LEP light cannon will beat the short arc platform if the Acebeam W10 performance is any indication. Can it be done right now by pushing an LEP?

I think so. At least I hope you think so. LOL

Anyway let’s get ready to lux rumble! Thumbs UpBeer

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nottawhackjob wrote:
Enderman wrote:
Haha thanks Silly
I like your enthusiasm!

Currently Polar Li is making his 100+Mcd searchlight handheld (albeit a bit big and heavy) so I’m looking forward to seeing the lux numbers from him, because that will definitely break the current 52Mcd record.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?449698-1-Mcd-Xenon-Fl...
So yeah, it will definitely be hard to beat that, but we will have to see, 2019 will be an interesting year Smile

I’m talking about LED handheld. Polar Li is going xenon. Might as well do an HID on steroids or a mini ARC welder. Not truly impressed. Xenon is like comparing a blown dragster that uses nitromethane vs Pro Stock. Not to mean the engineering isn’t impressive. It is.

LED flash is watt separates the studs from the geldings. It’s what 99.9% mod on CPF and BLF these days.

IMO there should be a handheld weight limit in order to call anything “handheld” for purposes of breaking that class record.

If I were a gorilla I too could hoist a flash containing 75lbs of lithiums in one hand butt I would be BSing to really claim it is recognized as a typically plausible handheld unit. LOL

Polar-Li’s light is extremely optimized for best performance. Much more so than many led throwers here on the forum. He is using an unbelieveably intense bulb (20x the luminance of the Osram Black Flat LED) and a large precision reflector with a better reflecitivity compared to standard aluminium reflectors. He also is able to precisely position bulb because if the 3D focussing mechanism.

Xenon Bulbs use the best possible materials in terms of how much heat they can tolerate – quartz glass and thick tungsten electrodes. They also create full pecturm light (almost 100CRI). I don’t think LEDs will ever get this intense, especially with such high light quality.

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I wonder if we will see a 100k flashlight next year? even if possible would that even be legal to produce such crazy lumens monster light?

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I personally doubt we will see any flashlight regulations from any state anytime soon. There are much more emotional issues that really have no bearing on anything that our legislators consider to be far more important, like the banning of immigration, higher tariffs on imported goods, banning drivers licenses to all immigrants regardless of legal status, closing the southern border, and most importantly, more tax cuts for the wealthiest. These are all far more important and wil have to be addressed first.

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Enderman wrote:
I don’t think LED really has a future for super far throw, it is better suited to high CRIs and high efficiency.
It’s just not high enough intensity blue light behind the phosphor.

If anything can beat a short arc, it will have to be laser phosphor.
It’s essentially the same as an LED, but the blue light behind the phosphor is more directional (because it is a laser instead) and can therefore be concentrated into a small point.

So does this mean someday you’re gonna challenge Polar-Li xenon to xenon? Becuz it looks like nothing right now except perhaps LEP even has a chance to remotely compete against an arc engine – unless you’re thinking of a recoil aspheric hyper LEP or something……IDK just throwing out crazy possibilities. LOLFacepalm

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mortuus wrote:
I wonder if we will see a 100k flashlight next year? even if possible would that even be legal to produce such crazy lumens monster light?

Vinh has made 100k lumens custom flashlights before, I think they cost like $2k or something.
Problem is that it can’t sustain that for more than a few seconds.

nottawhackjob wrote:

So does this mean someday you’re gonna challenge Polar-Li xenon to xenon? Becuz it looks like nothing right now except perhaps LEP even has a chance to remotely compete against an arc engine – unless you’re thinking of a recoil aspheric hyper LEP or something……IDK just throwing out crazy possibilities. LOLFacepalm

I just spent $500 on a laser if that’s any indication.
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