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passive101 wrote:

Do you have a link? Does it have the brightest LED option?

I'm not sure that posting such an external links is fine according to rules of this forum. OK, as Simon does that, assuming it's allowed:

Red:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Convoy-S2-Red-Cree-XML2-U2-1A-EDC-LED-Flashlight-torch-lantern-self-defense-camping-light/330416_32252638688.html

Orange (two pages):
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Convoy-S2-Orange-Cree-XML2-U2-1A-EDC-LED-Flashlight-torch-lantern-self-defense-camping-light/330416_32886884532.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/orange-S2-flashlight-with-XPL-HI-led-inside-and-ar-coated-glass-biscotti-firmware/330416_32887352316.html
Metal button on the photo looks exactly like mine.

As for LEDs, I took Biscotti *8 option — is it the case? It should be also possible to order it with SST40, I think. Anyway, you may just ask Simon a question about an absent combination, this option is very cool feature of the brand Smile
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andr3w wrote:

passive101 wrote:

Do you have a link? Does it have the brightest LED option?

I’m not sure that posting such an external links is fine according to rules of this forum. OK, as Simon does that, assuming it’s allowed:

Red:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Convoy-S2-Red-Cree-XML2-U2-1A-EDC-LED-Flashlight-torch-lantern-self-defense-camping-light/330416_32252638688.html

Orange (two pages):
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Convoy-S2-Orange-Cree-XML2-U2-1A-EDC-LED-Flashlight-torch-lantern-self-defense-camping-light/330416_32886884532.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/orange-S2-flashlight-with-XPL-HI-led-inside-and-ar-coated-glass-biscotti-firmware/330416_32887352316.html
Metal button on the photo looks exactly like mine.

As for LEDs, I took Biscotti *8 option — is it the case? It should be also possible to order it with SST40, I think. Anyway, you may just ask Simon a question about an absent combination, this option is very cool feature of the brand Smile

Thanks!

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andr3w wrote:

passive101 wrote:

Do you have a link? Does it have the brightest LED option?

I'm not sure that posting such an external links is fine according to rules of this forum. OK, as Simon does that, assuming it's allowed:
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There's no restrictions on links as long as it's good intent, just follow the rules: http://budgetlightforum.com/forum/misc/siterules.

Frequently I see posts where links are avoided and wonder why? When it's a helpful link on info, deal or to just buy something, it's all good for everyone.

 

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If you get the driver with Biscotti and an SST40, it won’t be the brightest – there’s a 5A drivers that’ll run it far harder than the Biscotti driver but without a nice UI.

That said, you’re gonna find your hand awfully warm running 5A in the S2+ at 100% Silly

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passive101 wrote:

Thanks!
You are welcome.
Just in case: that orange color is not an “acid orange” like orange fruit or carrot inside. It is darker a bit, still nice for me, but harder to describe. Red might be the same, I think – not the brightest and most shiny tone.

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Frequently I see posts where links are avoided and wonder why? When it’s a helpful link on info, deal or to just buy something, it’s all good for everyone.
Thanks for the link.
As for reasons, I agree, just saw forums which prohibit (any?) links because of advertisement, fraud or malware reasons. Sometimes there are intents like blocking other platforms for communication to keep audience at themselves. Even saw forums which add account restrictions after sending links in private messages.
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Simon, do you have the M3 with SSt-20 or 40 in cool white?

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Simon, do you have the M3 with SSt-20 or 40 in cool white?
Sorry ,no corresponding driver.
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Does anyone have a good review of the S21A yet?

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passive101 wrote:
Does anyone have a review of the S21A yet?

 

Shipping started May 27th.  I doubt anyone has had one long enough for a review.  I ordered mine May 28th - and it just arrived in the states (Denver Colorado) per tracking.  Should get to where I live (Oregon) by Thursday/Friday. 

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Just wondering, since I notice that the regular S2+ and C8+ also have SST40 LED variants.

So the S2+ with SST40 is basically the same as the S21A (with SST40), except the S21A has access to more power (due to more powerful 21700 battery), and they use the same 4-mode driver.

Same goes with the C8+ with SST40 (which now has 2 variants: “ramping” and “4-mode” driver), the M21A (C8 that uses 21700 battery) would be the same as the C8+ with SST40 (4-mode driver), but with access to more powerful 21700 battery.

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I’m guessing the Convoy L21A with SST40 be more throwy (throws farther) than the Convoy L2 with XHP50.2, but less throwy than Convoy L2 with XPL-Hi, right?

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Simon, can the S21A be special ordered with Biscottie?

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Any news about the AA titanium flashlight? Innocent

i will get a sample these days

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Terry Oregon wrote:

Simon, can the S21A be special ordered with Biscottie?

7135*10 with biscotti?

by the way ,i asked manufacturer to make a driver sample with crescendo

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Simon Mao wrote:
MascaratumB wrote:
Any news about the AA titanium flashlight? Innocent

i will get a sample these days

Great news, thank you very much for the feedback Simon Blushing

[REVIEWS] AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// XTAR: PB2 Charger /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// SKILHUNT: M150

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Simon Mao wrote:
Terry Oregon wrote:

Simon, can the S21A be special ordered with Biscottie?

7135*10 with biscotti?

by the way ,i asked manufacturer to make a driver sample with crescendo

man….. i want crecendo UI Smile

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Do those 6A drivers use an ATtiny chip?

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by the way ,i asked manufacturer to make a driver sample with crescendo

Uch, I dont think I’d like it. Maybe I should try…
But in my opinion most people get used to non ramping UI, just 4-5 modes

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Agreed. I personally prefer more common modes, something like 0.1, 1, 3, 10, 50, 100, etc.

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Simon Mao wrote:
Terry Oregon wrote:

Simon, can the S21A be special ordered with Biscottie?

7135*10 with biscotti?

by the way ,i asked manufacturer to make a driver sample with crescendo

Sounds great, love crescendo, looking forward to that option.

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Simon, can you already estimate by when L21A with XHP35 HI (2.3A current @ LED) will be available to order? I'm about to submit a substantial order but I'm a bit reluctant as L21A XHP35HI would probably be more interesting to me than L21A SST40 6.500K. Thank you! Cheers, Thomas

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Simon,
I am sure you are pretty busy but I wanted to know if
you were able to fix the driver?

I have tried a lot, but it has not been solved yet.

I want to introduce other firmware, such as bistro, crescendo

Thank you for getting back, Love
I guess this looks like a really expensive fix.

Are the S2+ Colors going to be discontinued
or updated with new firmware? Crying

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Lux-Perpetua wrote:

Simon, can you already estimate by when L21A with XHP35 HI (2.3A current @ LED) will be available to order? I’m about to submit a substantial order but I’m a bit reluctant as L21A XHP35HI would probably be more interesting to me than L21A SST40 6.500K. Thank you! Cheers, Thomas

production time of driver is about 10-15days

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sochi111 wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
sochi111 wrote:
Simon,
I am sure you are pretty busy but I wanted to know if
you were able to fix the driver?

I have tried a lot, but it has not been solved yet.

I want to introduce other firmware, such as bistro, crescendo

Thank you for getting back, Love
I guess this looks like a really expensive fix.

Are the S2+ Colors going to be discontinued
or updated with new firmware? Crying

do you colors for other model ?

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Simon Mao wrote:
do you colors for other model ?

I’d love to see an orange C8+, or maybe the L2 or L21. Something very “search and rescue” about an orange thrower.

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Hello Simon, I am very happy to see you added quality 18650 cells. Can these cells be added to any order

Give me thrower or give me pizza.

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d_t_a wrote:
Just wondering, since I notice that the regular S2+ and C8+ also have SST40 LED variants.

So the S2+ with SST40 is basically the same as the S21A (with SST40), except the S21A has access to more power (due to more powerful 21700 battery), and they use the same 4-mode driver.

Same goes with the C8+ with SST40 (which now has 2 variants: “ramping” and “4-mode” driver), the M21A (C8 that uses 21700 battery) would be the same as the C8+ with SST40 (4-mode driver), but with access to more powerful 21700 battery.

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I’m guessing the Convoy L21A with SST40 be more throwy (throws farther) than the Convoy L2 with XHP50.2, but less throwy than Convoy L2 with XPL-Hi, right?

S2+ and S21A are not the same, size of reflector is different, heat sinking (S2+ will be the hottest, so to run 3A+ better get something else), not tested L21A and L2, but everything with XPL-HI has more throw, as it is dedomed LED

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LarryLumens wrote:
Hello Simon, I am very happy to see you added quality 18650 cells. Can these cells be added to any order

If I put the battery into the flashlight, I can mail it to most countries via Neatherlands post air mail. In addition, a small number of countries can use epacket, of course, the shipping cost is also expensive.
I can mail the battery(only battery) to a small number of countries.

I can use epacket to mail the battery directly to US

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bin of XHP35 HI is D4-40E

4000K Cool

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