Test of prismatic 6060100 5000mAh li-polymer cells

Bought here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32796569829.html

I've soldered wire extensions to them with neodymium magnets, allowing me easy attachment to my Lii-500's rails:

1A/0.5A NOR testing right now, tomorrow evening will have the ≈0.1C down to 2.8V capacity figures.

Their internal resistance seems to be typical of high capacity batteries. Will DC IR them if someone gives me a hand to operate my precision power supply while monitoring my voltmeter.

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Cheers ^:)

I’m sweating looking at those batteries with magnets :smiley:

Don't ;-) worry maukka. I'm an experienced mains jolt :-D jig dancer, this is child's play to me.

I once showed a photo of a Lii-100 with a 6-pack of 18650 cells charging underneath in an E-CigaretteForum thread. There was at least some weird comment(s) speaking about fire extinguisers :-D or something:

Cheers

^ why not just insert one cell into the charger and lay it sideways?

Discharge capacity test results:

While not a problem for cells which are going to be set in parallel consistency is bad. Average capacity down to 2.8V at ≈0.1C: 4535.5mAh, 90.71% of rated one.

Not really bad, but not impressed.

Cheers ^:)

For the first discharge, ~4500mAh is not bad.
You should discharge and charge them again.

They could maybe be 4.3 Volts top off voltage?
My Samsung phone battery is full @ 4.4 Volts.
(yes i was surprised too)

The bays were not designed to hold prismatic cells, let alone allow for proper contact on their wire terminals. Since I can low temperature solder and had small neodymium magnets, I chose that way.

May look precarious, but it really isn't. O:)

Heard something about new li-ion batteries gaining capacity over the first cycles, but never investigated it besides noticing a slight gain after one cycle on a few low capacity Heter laptop pulls.

Do you have any information on how much gain is to be expected? Over how many cycles?

I doubt they are higher voltage cells. They would claim it somewhere, doesn't it? Nominal voltage is 3.7V, higher voltage cells are specced above that figure.

Yes, I know smartphones raise their battery voltages up high. I've always had a battery monitoring application installed.

Cheers ^:)

Looks like it’s time to buy a hobby charger :stuck_out_tongue: instead of using your cylindrical cell chargers for everything.

Giving 'em another 1A/½A NOR test cycle, let's see what happens.

Edit:

Rail #1 cell is leading the way this round, does this makes sense? Weird.

Cheers :-)

Sun, 01/06/2019 - 03:42

I didn’t see any hint of the termination voltage in the AE listing.
Also, LiIon batteries used to be rated 3.6 Volts a few years ago, 3.7 being the exception.
2S packs are usually rated 7.2 Volts, 3S packs are 11.8 Volts, and 14.4 Volts for 4S packs.
So who knows?
And how can you find out for sure?

None the less, judging by the NOR test capacity, it seems they’re 4.2 Volts termination voltage.
As said, they may reach the promised 5000 mAh after a few cycles.

≈+4.81356% for cell #1 and ≈+3.9604% for cell #2 after a second discharge cycle.

Cheers ^:)

Did DC internal resistance measurements by injecting ≈3A of current into their short wire leads while monitoring voltage over them with my ZT102 multimeter. At a maximum loaded voltage current was suddenly cut off and unloaded cell voltages were recorded 1, 2 and 3 minutes after cut off (all values in millivolts):

  1. Cell 1: Vmax = 4160, Vcut1 = 3950, Vcut2 = 3945, Vcut3 = 3943.
  2. Cell 2: Vmax = 4160, Vcut1 = 3946, Vcut2 = 3940, Vcut3 = 3938.

Using Vcut1 in both cases we get DCIR#1 = 70mΩ and DCIR#2 = 71,3͡mΩ.

Good enough for a power bank I guess.

Cheers ^:)