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Mocarny wrote:
I'm wondering what people think about this "last memorized brightness for max level", it's what I found very useful at least, covers "children use" and "friend use".

 

I don't think it's a good idea: IMHO Muggle mode should - by definition - be a "safe" mode under all circumstances, i.e. the light should neither get too bright nor too hot to injure or even scare a complete Muggle of a user. 

Personally I would vote for something along the lines ToyKeeper suggested .. simplified click for on/off and hold for a (circular, ZebraLight-style L-M-H) 3-mode stepped ramp with 3-30-300ish lumens and no other features because that's about the maximum complexity I would trust a Muggle to handle.  wink

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ToyKeeper wrote:
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Maybe it would be a good idea to just branch the fw in a couple of versions...
There are already two official forks of Anduril -- RampingIOS V3 and Fireflies UI. They don't get updated much, since it's kind of a pain merging changes back and forth between related forks, and because I often don't really think about the other forks when making changes. Also, RampingIOS V3 has been abandoned by its sole stakeholder, so I haven't bothered keeping it updated.

 

Maybe it's a good thing tho.. ? Like in.. "trial by fire" ? Basically leaving the main branch mostly as is and if say.. "Anduril Alt" or another alternate fork isn't doing too well, just abandon ship.

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So maybe something like: the last memorized level is the max, but no more than 800lm? Or other value, 600? So when giving it a child, set it to 100lm, because 300 could be sometimes too high, but when giving it a friend just set it to 600 and tell: It is bright. Be careful.
As long as you are setting brightness level before giving it, it is safe.

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3-mode stepped ramp with 3-30-300ish lumens

If my idea is in fact bad, please TK make it something more than just on off, 3 modes as mentioned are ok. But 100lm max is just…meh.

And after all very intensive thinking I decided it would be better to have 6H both for enter and exit from Muggle mode, as mentioned. Smile

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Mocarny wrote:
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Remove muggle mode entirely? It’s kind of bad and wastes a lot of space which could be used for other things. Or at least refactor it to make it more robust.

Maybe making it so there is only smooth ramping and strobes, all config options are locked and max brightness is the last memorized brightness used before entering this mode.

I don’t really want to add features to muggle mode… if anything, I’d like to reduce it back to its original form — on/off only at ~100 lumens.


I mean…if people want it, but in my opinion this way it’d be less used – only 100lm is quite low. When I think about use of Muggle mode, it’s like:
*camping *
“Hey, could you borrow me your flashlight for a while?” “* set to Muggle mode * Sure, take it”
With 100lm on off only there’d be not much use of that flashlight. I’m wondering what people think about this “last memorized brightness for max level”, it’s what I found very useful at least, covers “children use” and “friend use”.

When I think about use of Muggle mode, it’s like:
*camping *
“Hey, could you borrow me your flashlight for a while?” “* set to Muggle mode * Sure, take it – click to turn it on and click and hold to change the brightness”

Having said that, Muggle mode would be better IMHO if it used single clicks to cycle through a few brightness levels, just like most ordinary lights work. Click for on, click for low, click for medium, click for high, click for off. No push and hold to do anything. If it worked like that you could put it in Muggle mode and hand it to anyone and they would understand it without any instruction.

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The reason why it uses a simplified smooth ramp is because a vote was held to determine muggle mode’s UI style. Here are the results:

  12345
1. Smooth ramp   -70 76 78 85
2. 3-mode Baton   40 -68 62 61
3. 1-mode   36 35 -63 51
4. None   37 43 41 -56
5. 3-mode clicky   25 37 47 51 -

So basically smooth ramp was the most popular, then stepped ramp, then on/off at a single level. Then the option of removing muggle mode entirely. Coming up last was the style where people click to change the level, including “off” as one of the levels in rotation.

My personal preference is:

  1. None
  2. 1-mode
  3. Smooth ramp
  4. Stepped ramp (3-mode Baton)
  5. 3-mode clicky

But that’s mostly because I’d rather use that space for other things. Smile

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Quick idea.. Not sure if it's the right place, but here goes..

 

So one of the latest additions/changes in Anduril were the 5C & 5H to choose between Manual/Auto On Memory and also, the 2C from Off changed from a Turbo shortcut to a Ceil shortcut

That just made me think.. why not combining these into something as follows:

 - 1C - Revert to Auto Memory (basically whatever brightness state you've left your light Off, it should be memorized for the next Poer On by 1C - pretty much the old behavior)

 - Remove either 5C or 5H and leave only one of them as the Manual / Default On Memory - Say.. Ramp to whatever you want > and 5C would memorize that level..

 - Remap 2C from Off (Ceil Shortcut) to the memorized Manual / Default On Memory - also this way you are avoiding a duplicate 1C/2C (Turbo wasn't a Manual memorized level anyways)

So.. 1C - Standard Auto Memory / 2C - Manual / Default Memory - This way, you still have the Manual On Memory and a configurable pre-set level of brightness (Up to Ceil if needed)

The way Turbo was reached in the latest revisions was still 2C > 2C anyways, regardless if 2C was straight to Ceil or if by the above, it would be configurable to something else.

 

Thoughts.. ?

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80T wrote:
2C from Off changed from a Turbo shortcut to a Ceil shortcut

That didn’t change. It has had the same behavior since literally day 1.

80T wrote:
- 1C – Revert to Auto Memory (basically whatever brightness state you’ve left your light Off, it should be memorized for the next Poer On by 1C – pretty much the old behavior)

- Remap 2C from Off (Ceil Shortcut) to the memorized Manual / Default On Memory

It’s very unlikely to change, because it would eliminate one or more of the core UI requirements the design was built around. The idea was to provide, at minimum, the following:

From off:

  • A shortcut to the lowest level.
  • A shortcut to the highest level.
  • A shortcut to the memorized level.

While on:

  • 1 click to turn off.
  • An easy way to go up in brightness.
  • An easy way to go down in brightness.
  • A shortcut to/from turbo.

Those things aren’t going to change. The user can configure the meaning of “lowest”, “highest”, and “memorized”, though.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
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2C from Off changed from a Turbo shortcut to a Ceil shortcut
That didn't change. It has had the same behavior since literally day 1.

 

So, I don't really follow.. about the 2C from Off shortcut - that didn't changed since Day 1 as in it was always a shortcut to Ceil or always a shortcut to Turbo ?

In the anduril.txt I can see it was always a shortcut to Turbo.. ?

 

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From off it’s a shortcut to ceil, from on it jumps to turbo.

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I just got my Sofirm SP 36 BLF and was going through Anduril menu. I need a little help.I am trying to find steps to dim the locator light on the switch. Is it possible to do this? Just trying to save battery drain. Thanks

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teachtom wrote:
I just got my Sofirm SP 36 BLF and was going through Anduril menu. I need a little help.I am trying to find steps to dim the locator light on the switch. Is it possible to do this? Just trying to save battery drain. Thanks

From Off, 7C (7 quick clicks) cycles you to the next switch backlight mode.

The modes should be Low, High, Flash/Breath, and off.
(not necessarily in that exact order)

If 7C from Off doesn’t do anything, are you in Momentary or Muggle mode?

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My wife is a bit of a horror freak, Walking Dead is her fav series, curiously she also binge watches the Hallmark channel.
Anyway she has set up a graveyard scene on our front yard, 7 tombstones top off piles of leaves shaped as fresh dug graves, complete w/skeleton climbing out of one of them. She asked iffn I could light it for her. I showed her the lightning feature of Anduril…..

Now I’m waiting till dark to go out in the chill air and play roadie lightshow guy with a ROT66, E07 and D4V2 positioned in various trees around her macabre creation.

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I accidentally changed the smooth ramp config, now it goes up all the way to turbo. Please help me go back to default.
The procedure is to click 4 times while on the smooth ramp mode.
Then 1 click on First prompt(floor).

Now How many clicks on 2nd prompt(ceiling) to go back to its default from factory?

Thanks TK

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paojerokid wrote:
I accidentally changed the smooth ramp config, now it goes up all the way to turbo. Please help me go back to default. The procedure is to click 4 times while on the smooth ramp mode. Then 1 click on First prompt(floor). Now How many clicks on 2nd prompt(ceiling) to go back to its default from factory? Thanks TK

 

Iirc, default max ramp is 120 out of 150  thus, 30 clicks.

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Should be something like. turn it on then.
1. 4 clicks to enter Ramp config
2. 1st flare, do nothing
3. 2nd flare, click 1+Turbo – N. That is default ceiling 120/150, so click 30 times.

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120 is right but it takes 31 clicks  (1st click = 150). 

I did that wrong a couple of times myself. innocent

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ToyKeeper wrote:
… okay.

Please tell me how to configure the strobe for Emisar D 1

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Does anyone know if the Astrolux EC01 firmware version is available anywhere ? I can't seem to find it in the repository.

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Can anyone who owns an FW1a tell me if it has the Manual Memory option? (5 clicks to memorize a user defined level)

thanks

Anduril is an Amazingly feature rich UI!

is there an easy way for a muggle to update an FW1a to the latest Anduril version?

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paojerokid wrote:
How many clicks on 2nd prompt(ceiling) to go back to its default from factory?

Depends on which model of light it is. Each model has different default ramp settings, because each model has different hardware and power levels.

If it’s a pretty recent item, the factory reset function should work. But that wasn’t available until a few months ago.

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Does anyone know if the Astrolux EC01 firmware version is available anywhere ? I can’t seem to find it in the repository.

I don’t have a version for that light, so it’s not in the repository. I’d have to look it up to even find out what the EC01 is.

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Can anyone who owns an FW1a tell me if it has the Manual Memory option?

Mine doesn’t. It has an older version. Sad

No clue if there are any newer ones with newer firmware though. Lumintop is kind of all over the place with the FW3A derivatives, and I haven’t been involved in any of them except the purple one. I asked recently why they’re still shipping with old firmware, and didn’t get a useful answer.

So… many probably need to be updated, and it’s kind of a pain to do. I haven’t even updated mine yet.

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Does anyone know if the Astrolux EC01 firmware version is available anywhere ? I can't seem to find it in the repository.
I don't have a version for that light, so it's not in the repository. I'd have to look it up to even find out what the EC01 is.

 

So the Astrolux EC01 is basically using their own edit version of Anduril I'll take it. I was just trying to get the AUX lights from my D4V2 driver to work in a different host with a bicolor indicator switch LED, pretty much exactly how the one on the EC01 is. So far I've got it working somewhat, but given my coding.. non skills I think I've kinda made a mess of an edit. I've got it to light up constantly and only in the Batt status mode, but haven't really got a way for the 7C/7H to basically toggle it On/Off at least. It's a bit of a mess and I hate having it like that LOL

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thank you for the info, and all your contributions

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Is there some better way of guessing which firmware version is installed (for earlier Anduril versions that didn’t have the version check function)?

I’ve jotted down some of my own “testing” notes (copied/paraphrased from the official Anduril changelog), to try to determine approximately (between) which date is the firmware version, by testing these (functions that can relatively easily be tested):

Anduril firmware revision changes:
2018-12-14: fancy aux-LED (button switch LED) blinking mode (like heartbeat breathing effect) on BLF Q8/SP36
2019-05-22: 2-level lockout (4-clicks); momentary strobe mode possible (go to strobe modes before going to momentary mode)
2019-06-02: manual memory option (5H) ; button-release time-out is a bit faster
2019-06-27: factory reset function (hold button while tightening the tailcap)
2019-09-24: version-check function (15C) ; safety ramp-down if button held too long ; Emisar D18 & Astrolux MF01-Mini doesn’t have Muggle mode anymore (not fit)
2019-09-29: after safety ramp-down, also lockout the light

(later Anduril versions will have the version check, so just do the version check to find out the revision)

So, by testing an unknown Anduril version flashlight, and let’s say it doesn’t have the heartbeat blinking mode, it must have Anduril firmware earlier than 2018-12-14 (eg. the Fireflies gen 1 flashlights).

So, if the Anduril-based flashlight has 2-level lockout but not the manual-memory option, then it must be firmware 2019-05-22 or later, but earlier than 2019-06-02.

For the other firmwares in between, there are more difficult to detect (eg. I think somewhere between firmware 2018-12-14 and 2019-05-22, there were listed changes in how candle mode works, and also I think the temperature control — but these may be harder to visually determine (unlike those changes that can be “tested” by doing some clicks to check if it has that ‘feature’).

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d_t_a wrote:
Is there some better way of guessing which firmware version is installed (for earlier Anduril versions that didn’t have the version check function)?

Unfortunately, no. There isn’t an easy way to do it. That’s why I finally added a version check.

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