[♛ FreemeGB] Amutorch TC500 (upgraded) 2200lm* 21700/18650 Flashlight Group Buy - (ACTIVE)

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It’s pretty obvious it’s using a Luxeon V.

It’s the only other Lumileds emitter that could do this on DD without being a Luxeon MZ.

Still, I’m quite interested in the light. Please send in the code freeme.

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I am interested x 2

What are differences in tints below. Please advise.

Luminus SST40 CW
Philips Luxeon NW
XP-L HI CW
XP-L HI NW

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If not DD, I am interested in the SST40 version.

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freeme wrote:

There are total of 4 emitter options to choose from.

  1. Luminus SST40 CW
  2. Philips Luxeon NW
  3. XP-L HI CW
  4. XP-L HI NW

Interested, can you give a description of how is the lumens and throw for each LED type?

I know XPL-Hi is throwy, and should be something like 1000-1300 lumens (basing from other flashlights using XPL-Hi)
Luminus SST40 is a mixed flood/throw LED (probably similar to XHP50.2), with around 2000-2200 lumens (basing from other flashlights with this LED).

I’m not familiar with the Philips Luxeon LED — how is the lumens and the throw compared to the XPL-Hi and SST40?

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d_t_a wrote:
freeme wrote:

There are total of 4 emitter options to choose from.

  1. Luminus SST40 CW
  2. Philips Luxeon NW
  3. XP-L HI CW
  4. XP-L HI NW

Interested, can you give a description of how is the lumens and throw for each LED type?

I know XPL-Hi is throwy, and should be something like 1000-1300 lumens (basing from other flashlights using XPL-Hi)
Luminus SST40 is a mixed flood/throw LED (probably similar to XHP50.2), with around 2000-2200 lumens (basing from other flashlights with this LED).

I’m not familiar with the Philips Luxeon LED — how is the lumens and the throw compared to the XPL-Hi and SST40?

Shouldn’t SST-40 be the same as XML2 die-size-wise?

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The Amutorch Ali store indicates these specs:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Amutorch-2019-Newest-TC500-2200...LED-Flashlight-doulbe-switch-1-21700-and/3008024_32972236730.html

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Specification:
Material: T6 Aluminum alloy
Battery: Not included, powered by one 21700 li-ion battery
LED: Luminus SST40 2200lm / Philips LumiLEDs LUXEON 2200lm / CREE XP-L HI 1200lm
Light color: Cool white & Nature white
Lens: Highly transparent tempered coated glass
Switch Location & Type: Side and tail of the flashlight
Impact Resistant: 1m
Max Output: 2200Lumens
Waterproof: IPX-8 Waterproof,under water 2m
Color: Military Grey
Weight: 280g

UI Mode: Fully Press the tail switch to turn on/off the flashlight, press slightly the switch at the side of the torch to adjust the light, which are successively Low, Med, High, Turbo (double-click quickly), Strobe (quickly triple-click quickly). The strobe function can be activated by double-click quickly at any luminance level.

Features:
Material: Adopt quality T6 aviation aluminum Alloy manufactured through CNC during the whole process. the surface is processed with hardened and wear-resistant 3rd level hard oxidation. Scratch proof and wear-resistent.

Low voltage warning & Reverse polarity protection: Practical and durable with high quality constant current drive circuit! It has reverse polarity protection function and low voltage prompt function.

Super white tempered double-sided anti-reflection AR-Coating lens..

Integrated lamp head, solid aluminum, Unique encrypted radiating fins, Faster cooling performance.

Unique solid and integral heat dissipation structure at lamp head, discarding independent circuitry cabin that conducting heat through medium. Removing the heat conducting oxide layer after oxidation through CNC in order to achieve a quicker heat and energy conduction and dissipation generated by LED, thus extending the lifetime of LED and slowing down light wane!

Pure purple base plate with thermal and electrical separation process is used for LED base plate. thus extending the lifetime of LED.

The inner electric conducting PCB and the anti-chatter spring.

Cool white and Nature white are available:
Cool White: color temperature 6500K, white light, bright strengthening, maximum luminance can reach 1200 lumens!
Nature White: color temperature (4800K), strong penetrability, good color rendering property, excellent performance in rain and fog weathers. Protect eyes from feeling tired with long lightening up. Not as bright as the white color, the white light is recommended for customers who prefers it to be bright.

SST40 LED only have Cool white light color now

Looks like the Philips Luxeon has similar stated lumens as the SST40 of 2200 lumens.

*“pure purple base plate” = I think it’s from Chinese-to-English translation inaccuracy and probabably means “pure copper base plate”

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d_t_a wrote:
freeme wrote:

There are total of 4 emitter options to choose from.

  1. Luminus SST40 CW
  2. Philips Luxeon NW
  3. XP-L HI CW
  4. XP-L HI NW

Interested, can you give a description of how is the lumens and throw for each LED type?

I know XPL-Hi is throwy, and should be something like 1000-1300 lumens (basing from other flashlights using XPL-Hi)
Luminus SST40 is a mixed flood/throw LED (probably similar to XHP50.2), with around 2000-2200 lumens (basing from other flashlights with this LED).

I’m not familiar with the Philips Luxeon LED — how is the lumens and the throw compared to the XPL-Hi and SST40?


Not really. As already stated, SST-40 has XM-L2-like die size so it’s much throwier than XHP50.2,
Luxeon V is floodier.
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Agro wrote:
SST-40 has XM-L2-like die size so it’s much throwier than XHP50.2, Luxeon V is floodier.

Are you sure the Luxeon V is floodier than the SST-40?

The Luxeon V has a smaller footprint (4040) .

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Johm wrote:
Agro wrote:
SST-40 has XM-L2-like die size so it’s much throwier than XHP50.2, Luxeon V is floodier.

Are you sure the Luxeon V is floodier than the SST-40?

The Luxeon V has a smaller footprint (4040) .

The Luxeon V is similar to an XP-L HD. The die size and the dome are more important in determining flood/throw than the ‘footprint’ or package size (3535, 4040, 5050)

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Johm wrote:
Agro wrote:
SST-40 has XM-L2-like die size so it’s much throwier than XHP50.2, Luxeon V is floodier.

Are you sure the Luxeon V is floodier than the SST-40?

The Luxeon V has a smaller footprint (4040) .


Luxeon is flip chip and flip chips are flooders usually.
But this time that’s not the case, I was wrong and stock they offer practically the same cd/lm.

Note that SST-40 can be dedomed with great throw improvements. With Luxeon V the improvements are marginal.

Source:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58842
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58900

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Agro wrote:
stock they offer practically the same cd/lm.

Note that SST-40 can be dedomed with great throw improvements. With Luxeon V the improvements are marginal.

Source:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58842
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/58900

Thanks Agro for looking into it.

So, we should expect similar basic characteristics with the sst-40 and luxeon V. (Lummens and throw)

And both leds are ‘rumored’ to have minimal tint shift.

So I’m guessing the biggest difference (apart of-course from the tint) will be Amperage draw in direct drive.

Do you know which led has a smaller Internal Resistance?

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Hard to tell. You may see in the Luxeon V thread that I linked to that 2 samples from different sources that Koef3 checked had very different Vf.

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Is there a code for the pre-order already? Interested to try the Philips Luxeon V model..

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Ordered Philips Luxeon model

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Any information about mode spacing?

Also, is anybody familiar with Amutorch drivers? What should we expect in terms of efficiency?

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vik267777 wrote:
Ordered Philips Luxeon model

Ordered one yesterday and it said “only one left in stock”. Showed to have shipped this morning. Of course we all know how Banggood is with inventory.

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Mine got shipped on the 9th, with expected delivery date on the 20th.

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Дайте пожалуйста код купона .

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interested 1 in SST40, could you please share the coupon freeme.
Thanks

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Interested. Haven’t gotten code yet. I’d like to try the Philips Luxeon V LED.

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Anyone got this wonder how it perform, UI, tint and beam of Luxeon V ?

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I just got mine today. UI is Low-Mid-High + strobe (double click). It does not come with Turbo mode. Luxeon hotspot is larger than XHP35 HI.

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Anyone got this wonder how it perform, UI, tint and beam of Luxeon V ?

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Can you measure the throw?

Edit: If you can’t, can you do a beamshot comparing other lights to it, or measure the inner diameter of the reflector?

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anybody have this light?
Beamshot comparison with Astro MT02 or BLF GT Mini?

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564m with LUXEON NW emitter.

BlueSwordM wrote:
Can you measure the throw? Edit: If you can't, can you do a beamshot comparing other lights to it, or measure the inner diameter of the reflector?

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