[Review] Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - Testing Output, Regulation & PWM for AA and 14500

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On tailstanding; I’ve found that my T10 and Archer will tailstand (but yes, wobbly) when “on” but not when “off”. The switch button seems to be a bit lower in the “on” position..

With the 2AA Archer, I took one of those thin black plastic protectors that go on the bottom of cheap tubing chair legs (a few cents for a pack of 4), cut out 90% of the closed end to barely cover the existing protrusions and slipped it onto the tailcap. It’s a perfect friction fit, not too tight or too loose. Now it tailstands like a champ, with unrestricted access to the switch.

I think the Tool AA is a great light too, but does it come apart easily enough to readily change that cool emitter? Somehow I just can’t understand a major manufacturer not striving for good neutral emitters (and a sub lumen moonlite) right out of the gate.


Yeah, I’ve heard about that, but the boots on mine protrude no matter what, just worse when they’re off, because they seem to be bulged in the middle. Not the case with the Tool, the boot on it is perfectly flat.

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My Tool AA V2.0 tailstands just fine as is.

If they had made the ‘ring around the tail switch’ solid, then some people would be griping & whining about that; saying it was to hard to access the tail switch. Facepalm

It is a no win situation for a manufacturer, either way they go some people are not going to be happy. Soooo, they have to do the best they can to try and please everyone with one design.

I think with the Tool AA V2.0 they have accomplished this.


Has anyone seriously whinged about that? I don’t remember anything being said about it in the older Convoy models’ threads and reviews.

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My Tool AA V2.0 tailstands just fine as is.

If they had made the ‘ring around the tail switch’ solid, then some people would be griping & whining about that; saying it was to hard to access the tail switch. Facepalm

It is a no win situation for a manufacturer, either way they go some people are not going to be happy. Soooo, they have to do the best they can to try and please everyone with one design.

I think with the Tool AA V2.0 they have accomplished this.

Has anyone seriously whinged about that? I don’t remember anything being said about it in the older Convoy models’ threads and reviews.
Oh yeah, that has been a complaint before by some. I don’t remember any exact references to give links to because I paid it little attention. But I have read it several times in the past three years about various different lights.

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
On tailstanding; I’ve found that my T10 and Archer will tailstand (but yes, wobbly) when “on” but not when “off”. The switch button seems to be a bit lower in the “on” position..

With the 2AA Archer, I took one of those thin black plastic protectors that go on the bottom of cheap tubing chair legs (a few cents for a pack of 4), cut out 90% of the closed end to barely cover the existing protrusions and slipped it onto the tailcap. It’s a perfect friction fit, not too tight or too loose. Now it tailstands like a champ, with unrestricted access to the switch.

I think the Tool AA is a great light too, but does it come apart easily enough to readily change that cool emitter? Somehow I just can’t understand a major manufacturer not striving for good neutral emitters (and a sub lumen moonlite) right out of the gate.

Regarding the mod-ability of the Tool AA 2.0, I belive that the head assembly would come loose pretty easily with a good pair of thin snap ring pliers.

Unfortunately my own pliers have quite thick endpoints so they won’t fit into the driverboard’s holes.

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Perhaps my button isn’t as recessed as yours. But even then I won’t be good because ring isn’t a full circle.

EagTac D25A shows how to do it. Still no full circle, but almost. Along with a low profile switch this is the perfect solution to tail clicky candles. Anything less isn’t really working very well; They could as well have omitted the ring completely, having an all around accessible switch (like Armytek). I dislike compromises that doesn’t work well in either way.
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@ Bilakos: Grind the plier ends into a point with a metal hand file. Worked for me Thumbs Up

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Obviously right. Probably will do that after making sure regular AA would still fit.

It will. If it’s too long, just add a circle of paperclip or metal wire in the tailcap end. The threads are quite long and it takes virtually any cell from factory.

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@ Bilakos: Grind the plier ends into a point with a metal hand file. Worked for me Thumbs Up

My snap ring pliers seem to be coated / hardened, so a metal file will do minimal damage.
I would preferably use an angle grinder than start filing for 2 hours Silly

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I added some wall beamshots and I also realized that the light diffuse glows in the dark Silly

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Just received my Lumintop Tool AA V2.0 from Amazon. First of all the tint is pure white. Second it is bright. Very bright just using an eneloop battery. It makes the V1.0 seem to have only moon modes. Very pleased with my purchase. Recommended.

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/\… Glad it worked out 264. Thumbs Up

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264 wrote:
Just received my Lumintop Tool AA V2.0 from Amazon. First of all the tint is pure white. Second it is bright. Very bright just using an eneloop battery. It makes the V1.0 seem to have only moon modes. Very pleased with my purchase. Recommended.

Glad it worked out nicely for you Smile Definitely a great EDC!

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teacher wrote:
Thumbs Up/\

I do like Lumintop brand. I just do not know what to think when I read some reviews on Amazon. Sure the people that give one star reviews sometimes sound like nutjobs. But sometimes I think they hold some truth.
Some people give one star because they think the price is too high.
Some give one star because delivery took too long.
Point being, many people don’t review the product itself.

264][quote=teacher wrote:
I will be a happy camper when I get my new Tool AA Wednesday.
You knew when you know what you bought.
That sounds bad so let me explain.
The light itself is good. Everything promised is in the package. The output and runtime are as advertised. It’s also really waterproof (I tested that in my bathtub). Build quality is good.

But yeah that doesn’t mean you will like it. You could for example hate the tint. Some people on Amazon rate the light because the light has exactly the tint they ordered, but simply don’t like the tint.

The AAA and AA version were my fist small and tiny lights. I like them and as for me that means a new search starts for a better replacement. Aspheric lens and high CRI for example.

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Based on the good feedback, I just ordered one to add to my growing collection of 14500 lights. The smaller lights are impressive and just plain cool to me. Perfect for my use inside the house, in the garage, and will even do for the backyard, though I prefer my C8s for outside. With the new Vapcell 1000 mAh battery, run times should be good.

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Just be aware that it doesn’t have LVP , I always use protected cells in the tool AA , I once ran down a 14500 to under 2 volts.

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264 wrote:
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Thumbs Up/\

I do like Lumintop brand. I just do not know what to think when I read some reviews on Amazon. Sure the people that give one star reviews sometimes sound like nutjobs. But sometimes I think they hold some truth. I will be a happy camper when I get my new Tool AA Wednesday. Have a great week Teacher.


In my experience most of the 1 and some 2 star ratings are either don’t know how to use, or unrealistic expectations. There are a few outright failures, and if there are too many of those I move on.

You don't really need a parachute to skydive. But you DO need one if you want to skydive twice!

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ZoomieFan wrote:
The AAA and AA version were my fist small and tiny lights. I like them and as for me that means a new search starts for a better replacement. Aspheric lens and high CRI for example.

Check out the Sofirn C01 in their Aliexpress store. AAA, Yugi high CRI, 60° beam angle for nice even beam, choice of 3400K/5200K emitters. And a sub $10 price.

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teacher wrote:
Thumbs Up/\

I do like Lumintop brand. I just do not know what to think when I read some reviews on Amazon. Sure the people that give one star reviews sometimes sound like nutjobs. But sometimes I think they hold some truth. I will be a happy camper when I get my new Tool AA Wednesday. Have a great week Teacher.


In my experience most of the 1 and some 2 star ratings are either don’t know how to use, or unrealistic expectations. There are a few outright failures, and if there are too many of those I move on.

Here is a link: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/01/where-amazon-retu...

It is what Amazon does with returns. Some people buy the returns and resell them on Ebay and Amazon.

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Based on the good feedback, I just ordered one to add to my growing collection of 14500 lights. The smaller lights are impressive and just plain cool to me. Perfect for my use inside the house, in the garage, and will even do for the backyard, though I prefer my C8s for outside. With the new Vapcell 1000 mAh battery, run times should be good.

That’s correct.
The Vapecell 14500 is one of the best in its category.
It’s highly likely that you will even get a better turn-on lumen performance Smile

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Just be aware that it doesn’t have LVP , I always use protected cells in the tool AA , I once ran down a 14500 to under 2 volts.

That’s something I forgot to mention.
Indeed there is no LVP. To my knowledge, it quite a common practice on flashlights that use a boost/fet driver and accept both NiMH and LiION cells.

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OP, you haven't measured output with a NiMH battery, have you? I'm not planning on using 14500, so it would be helpful.

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What’s most disapointing, is that it’s very unstable standing upright as a candle with the diffuser.
Perhaps my button isn’t as recessed as yours. But even then I won’t be good because ring isn’t a full circle.

Not in this review, but the AAA version is a total failure in that respect. The button sticks out a lot


Mine tail stands just fine. I even tried a little nudge perpendicular to the open portion of the ring and it settled right back to upright.

And I don’t believe the Tool AAA ever claimed to be able to tail stand just for that reason. [You can always just stand it up in a shot glass. Not totally vertical but still ceiling bounces just fine.]

You don't really need a parachute to skydive. But you DO need one if you want to skydive twice!

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Does anyone know where I can find an electronic version of the user manual. I like to keep electronic versions when I can because my paper manuals all seem to disappear. I usually put them back in whatever container the light came in then store that somewhere, and promptly forget where that was.

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I loved the Tool AA so much I bought two. Just wanted to know are there any runtime graphs available for this light

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How can you tell if the Tool AA is the 1st of 2nd version?

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Lonelydad wrote:
ZoomieFan wrote:
What’s most disapointing, is that it’s very unstable standing upright as a candle with the diffuser.
Perhaps my button isn’t as recessed as yours. But even then I won’t be good because ring isn’t a full circle.

Not in this review, but the AAA version is a total failure in that respect. The button sticks out a lot


Mine tail stands just fine. I even tried a little nudge perpendicular to the open portion of the ring and it settled right back to upright.

And I don’t believe the Tool AAA ever claimed to be able to tail stand just for that reason. [You can always just stand it up in a shot glass. Not totally vertical but still ceiling bounces just fine.]


If you really want a Tool AAA to tail stand, just get the magnetic tail cap. You loose the push-button option so it becomes a twisty only, but the magnetic tail cap is flat, and allows the Tool AAA to stand just fine.

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How can you tell if the Tool AA is the 1st of 2nd version?

The more recent ones print 2.0 on the flashlight, like this.

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Thanks eyeballfryer

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Gonna debunk something I saw earlier – the Tool AAA does work with 10440, I gave it a shot and it works fine. Gets pretty hot, though Smile

But yes, lack of tail stand is a bit annoying – as is the force required for full click, it’s seriously meaty.

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Someone said it before but it needs repeating,
This AA Tool 2.0 has the best high def high CRI cool white emitter that I have ever seen.
The detail is just incredible in all the modes. This would be a handy detective/Cop investigative detail operation flashlight, nothing can hide.

Blown away, plus they got rid of the PWM and hid the strobe.
Add on the reversible clip, Alkaline, Ni-MH and 14500 capabilities and this thing is Pure EDC heaven for me at least.

Get the Vipon code and steal one for $9 while you can!
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Muto wrote:
Someone said it before but it needs repeating,
This AA Tool 2.0 has the best high def high CRI cool white emitter that I have ever seen.
The detail is just incredible in all the modes. This would be a handy detective/Cop investigative detail operation flashlight, nothing can hide.

I think I was the one that mentioned this, but in another review. The tint on this Tool’s XP-L is nothing short of a treat, easily the nicest cool white I have ever seen. You can tell for sure its CCT is high, but it doesn’t wash out reds and yellows like we’ve come to expect; it just looks nice.

Muto wrote:
Blown away, plus they got rid of the PWM and hid the strobe.
Add on the reversible clip, Alkaline, Ni-MH and 14500 capabilities and this thing is Pure EDC heaven for me at least.

Get the Vipon code and steal one for $9 while you can!
Later

Keith


Holy crap, you’re not kidding, that is a steal Shocked I’d nab another one if I wasn’t so short on dosh this month.

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