It's been two years since I've had the Stanley 1,365 lumen spotlight and even though the battery wasn't even good for a single charge, I kept it and never bothered to take it back. Just plugged it in directly to the cig lighter, as I've always done for use and....DAMN!!!!!! (my reaction to just firing it up). Lights up the whole street.
Ever since I got it, lighting this thing up has never failed to put a smile on my face--and I don't say that about my other lights. It kills my Qbeam 3 Mil, and aside from its weight, has been the subject of my admiration. If only it were pocketable!
Everything else looks so dim. My question: What LED super-contender can match or beat this thing? If not in terms of throw, how about in straight-up output?
As far as brightness, multiple emitter lights like 5 x XM-L would give brightness meeting yours. HID probably would also, but nothing I know beats a good spotlight like that Stanley. The reflector is so much larger than a regular flashlight and that has a lot to do with the beam quality, size and apparent brightness.
Output of 3-5 XM-L emitters (if pushed to max) would have higher output. SST-90 pushed to max would too. Others will know better than I do.
Well i guess the DBS aspheric EZ900 pill can hang around with this for throw. A DRY triple XM-L would be more in output (the triple XM-L lumens output is something like a 100W halogen). But really different lights, just FYI. Really don't know, i purchased one of these big halogens before just for fun long time ago (still not into the hobby yet).... never measured it.
Ok did a cursory search. Thor 10 Million CP Halogen: 183,000 CP100w, 7" reflector (measured by mtbkndad & calculated by RA)
I guess if yours is a 50W halogen, the DBS aspheric would have no issue hanging around with it. Do note this has a huge 7" reflector.
I have heard that that THOR is only like 1500 lumens in real life (that may be BS though). I remember seeing an Amazon comment to that affect.
Thing is, I have such respect for this incan because it just reveals so much. I'm just not finding that to be the case with the LEDs yet. I try not to point lights in people's eyes, but when holding this thing, I'd find it a moral imperative not to because it would actually hurt a person to get shot with it.
And keep in mind, my knowledge of the super-performer LEDs is as of yet limited, but I'm thinking the TK 70, SR90, DRY, and Sky Ray would kill it, no? I don't expect pocketable spotlight throw, but I get happy with the powerhouse LEDs and then see this thing and start wanting again! I'm told the Stanley HID is about twice as bright. wowy!
Bro, well for halogen it is pretty easy to calculate efficiency. There is no driver, and the bulbs are driven in-spec (if you over overdrive it, efficiency goes signficantly up). It's about 30 lumens per watt and so with 50W it is 1500 bulb lumens, so they are correct. The DRY triple is 3000 emitter lumens, but it is not a thrower though you can get a decent 29-30k cd from it meaning it does outthrow a Fenix TK35. Do not mix lumens output with candlepower/lux@1m/candela.
Well with big HIDs and short-arcs, you get this effect. This is 3 million plus candlepower (that's a 11.5" actual diameter reflector and 100W ballast probably underdriven a bit with about 70W output power to the 55W bulb because i need the shorter arc gap of that even though output suffers about 15% if i were to use the big 75/100W bulbs)
About "safety", that is an issue with this particular HID. UV levels are not that bad actually, the transition lens does not darken that much. Compared to the 1200h sun of about 120k cd here, the intensity of this light goes above the intensity of the sun when you are below 6 metres so you need to take extra care. Actually below 10meters it is already very difficult to even expose your eyes to it for more than 0.5 seconds and you are already very close to risking eye damage should you "force it". Lasers need a lot of care and eye protection in some cases.
There are a lot of fun info/beamshots/pictures on those lights you mentioned, both here and CPF. Enjoy! :)
OK, well, as I've been noticing, I have a lot to learn! As is evidenced by your posts all over the net, you know the things about which you speak. Mine won't bat in THAT league!
Haha...it's not blue tint. That's actually a 4300k bulb but the camera WB is set to 2500k. As you see the buildings are also blue, but that can't be right because high pressure sodium is very orangey. HID bulbs you can do 3000k, 4300k, 5000, 6000, 8000, 10000, 20000k. Blue, purple, green, pink and golden yellow (prob around 2300k). I have blue and pink special bulbs (costed me 16 bucks a pair), pretty happening.
Unless you have a real good reason for needing that flashlight format, it's better not to get those as it's not value for money for throw. Output as in lumens Out-The-Front/OTF is good. But if you need something that is light and have a lot of punch, can put into a backpack and still is not that bulky or heavy, then yeah that is good. I have 2 of those and we run a couple of those in an Indonesian plantation/birds nest cave. Runs about 80 minutes continuously without issues and i have tested a lot of times (LED absolutely can't do this), gives about 4000 lumens OTF *measured* for the 75W and about 250k cd throw as measured.
Pls note the word *measured*, so it's somewhat comparable to other LED lights which are measured. LED/HID paper specs are quite often not to be believed, figures from LED manufacturers like Fenix/JB/Olight are pretty ok. (but stuff like SR90 OTF lumens and TK70 throw are way out)
Well I guess when you are going all out performance, it depends on what are you after because different lights have different applications. These 4000 lumen HID lights are useful for lighting up large swarths while at the same time providing some decent throw. The beam profile of the Ebay HID is probably less useful as it is very specific in its use. It has a small and very bright center hotspot, a very big corona, and very large amts of spill. It can be somewhat defocused so it is the prime candidate if you wanna light up something like a big building that is 100m away from you, or the whole of the inside of a 20m by 40m tall cave.
I'll give you a visual comparison. First is the Fenix TK70 while the second is that Ebay/Aliexpress 65W with 6600mAh battery.
