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Ryzbor wrote:
Dear Skilhunt,

If you want to give the buyer choices, the best would be to offer your models in both 4000K (Neutral-Warm) and 5000K (Neutral-White). In this way you’d cover roughly 80% of most people preferences.

Unfortunately the leds you use are not really pretty since they are binned above the BBL = they are greenish = ugly. 4000K 5D/5A and 5000K 3A tint binned Cree leds are famous here for for producing beautiful neutral-rosy light. They are easy to obtain.

*Being known for using nice leds = more profit. *

Keep your flashlights mod friendly, this will allow people who want either true warm, true cool or high-cri light achieve it using one of your models and not by switching to a different brand.

A great example it the H03 which is a popular light for modifications in the flashlight community, mostly because beside it’s good quality it’s relatively easy to open, beside that the head is glued to the body. So please don’t glue shut your flashlights.

Doing this will result in extra people buying your lights just for modding = more profit.

It’s easy to overengineer a flashlight by implementing fanservice solutions like onboard charging which can short-circout, indicator leds which consume lots energy and switching to super-fancy UI’s.

Last but not least: keep the price decent. The H03 costed ~30$ on your Aliexpress store, now it’s 43$. Why?
I’d much prefer to order it directly from you instead of Gearbest but when GB can offer a ~29$ price for it it becomes a easy choice.

Thank you for your feedback. Smile

By the way, our Aliexpress store H03’s price is $35.15 if follow us, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33035837458.html?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.27.1eaf90db8GKkAW

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varbos wrote:
Ryzbor wrote:
Dear Skilhunt,
If you want to give the buyer choices, the best would be to offer your models in both 4000K (Neutral-Warm) and 5000K (Neutral-White). In this way you’d cover roughly 80% of most people preferences.

Unfortunately the leds you use are not really pretty since they are binned above the BBL = they are greenish = ugly. 4000K 5D/5A and 5000K 3A tint binned Cree leds are famous here for for producing beautiful neutral-rosy light. They are easy to obtain.

*Being known for using nice leds = more profit. *

Keep your flashlights mod friendly, this will allow people who want either true warm, true cool or high-cri light achieve it using one of your models and not by switching to a different brand.

A great example it the H03 which is a popular light for modifications in the flashlight community, mostly because beside it’s good quality it’s relatively easy to open, beside that the head is glued to the body. So please don’t glue shut your flashlights.

Doing this will result in extra people buying your lights just for modding = more profit.

It’s easy to overengineer a flashlight by implementing fanservice solutions like onboard charging which can short-circout, indicator leds which consume lots energy and switching to super-fancy UI’s.

Last but not least: keep the price decent. The H03 costed ~30$ on your Aliexpress store, now it’s 43$. Why?
I’d much prefer to order it directly from you instead of Gearbest but when GB can offer a ~29$ price for it it becomes a easy choice.


I disagree.

-Tint is fine on my Skilhunt flashlights
-A glued head is better – it will not accidentally unscrew when flashlight is on headband and user twists head to change angle.
-In-built charging is very useful. Especially when it is very compact like H03RC
-Indicator LEDs are very useful.
-Sometimes making things ‘mod friendly’ results in big and bulky flashlight. I don’t want this. H03 is very compact.

Skilhunt makes finished products for consumers who just want flashlight, not DIY kits for modders. From your suggestions it seems you want the company to change to DIY stuff like Convoy. Why? If you want a Convoy, buy a Convoy. Don’t ry to ruin Skilhunt for everyone else.

Thank you very much for share this information to us. Your feedback really encourage us. Big Smile

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It’s always like this, there will always be contrary preferences, that’s what statistics can be used for.
I bet most of BLFers prefer easy access to flashlights parts and a variety of tints, leds, UIs, etc. But the BLFers are probably not the majority of customers so on the other hand I can understand Skilhunt adjusts its products to the market expectations.
So… can we compromise somehow? Maybe a special BLF edition? I find M150 very seductive but no way I could accept things that Ryzbor has mentioned.

Skilhunt: more flexibility means more customers. Please give it a try if possible.

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varbos wrote:
-Tint is fine on my Skilhunt flashlights

Depending on the results of the infamous tint lottery it can vary from acceptable to bad. It’s nowhere near the quality and consistency of Cree’s A and D tint bins.

varbos wrote:
-A glued head is better – it will not accidentally unscrew when flashlight is on headband and user twists head to change angle.

This is extremely unlikely to happen. Plus it creates the possibility for Skilhunt to make and sell a dedicated 18350 tube. A good compromise would be that Skilhunt started using glue for the head of the H03 that’s easily removable after light heating.

varbos wrote:
-In-built charging is very useful. Especially when it is very compact like H03RC -Indicator LEDs are very useful.

Compromise: when making a model make a variant with charging and one without. Stopping the production of the H03 in favour of the H03 RC would be a moronic decision to make. Besides, onboard charging and indicator leds have numerous disadvantages. The biggest one: the price difference between a regular model and a RC model is higher then the cost of a decent single bay charger.

varbos wrote:
-Sometimes making things ‘mod friendly’ results in big and bulky flashlight. I don’t want this. H03 is very compact.

Sometimes yes, but obviously not in the case of the H03. If you would have modded it you would know this.

varbos wrote:
From your suggestions it seems you want the company to change to DIY stuff like Convoy. Why? If you want a Convoy, buy a Convoy.

You clearly don’t understand what I’m talking about. The whole point I’m trying to make is that with almost zero effort and without big changes they can make products that are both suitable for “regular” consumers, flashoholics and modders. EG: H03 with XM-L2 5D/3A and blue loclite glue for the head.

varbos wrote:
Don’t try to ruin Skilhunt for everyone else.

Only Facepalm reacts.
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By the way, our Aliexpress store H03’s price is $35.15 if follow us, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33035837458.html?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.27.1eaf90db8GKkAW

Just make the regular price 30$ without fancy gimmicks people have no time for.

You’ve got the biggest sales in Poland and Russia if I’m right, keep in mind that are weak currency countries. Skilhunt H03 is/used to be extremely popular in Poland because it had a decent stable price of ~25-30$ and if offers (very) good quality and dependability. Now the price fluctuates like crazy and people are moving to Armytek.

good tint: Nichia E21A 2000K-7500K except d240 bin, Nichia 219B sw40/sw45, 219C sw303, Cree XPL-HI A/D bins, XHP70.2 5A, Samsung shaved LH351D's, SST-20 FD2, FA3, HA3, .

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Ryzbor wrote:

Only Facepalm reacts.

LOL your post is the one which deserves facepalm. Read it again – you ask to remove charging, remove advanced UI, remove indicator light.
What else do you want to remove? Maybe the button? Big Smile Maybe remove the LED to make it simpler to mod. Big Smile Maybe remove the knurling so user can do his own pattern…

Like I said, I think you want different product. You want kit or DIY product. That’s fine, everybody has his preferences. Buy that. Don’t ask that Skilhunt change from consumer product to DIY product.

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I suggested there are other ways of making a good light. And came up with a compromise. If one doesn’t want indicator leds he or she can remove them – I did so. If someone wants a model without charging, there is the H03 model and if someone want charging there is the H03 RC model.

The UI of the H03 if more fine – very muggle friendly, actually almost ideal. With “advanced” UI i meant Anduril. A lot of people here would suggest it here and some more “regular” companies slowly start using it, like Sofirn. It’s terribly unfriendly for non-flashohilics.

No, I don’t want a different product or a DIY kit. Or does switching from red locklite to the easier removable blue locklite make it a new product? Please read my posts carefully.

The whole point I’m trying to make is that Skilhunt can make their products, with minimal (zero?) extra costs in such a way they can satisfy both regular consumers (priority), flashlight enthusiast and modders alike, thus creating a bigger target group, thus making more profit.

good tint: Nichia E21A 2000K-7500K except d240 bin, Nichia 219B sw40/sw45, 219C sw303, Cree XPL-HI A/D bins, XHP70.2 5A, Samsung shaved LH351D's, SST-20 FD2, FA3, HA3, .

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Thank you very much for all your comments. Blushing

We always hope that we can combine more different needs, easy-to-use products to meet the needs of regular consumers and some of individuated needs, this is not an easy thing. Also we have to consider some of the difficulties in mass production.

We glued the head and tube, because some of consumers not really good at DIY or repair work. If not glued them, the driver board may be damaged if it is not careful. That will bring very bad feeling to consumer.

The Anduril UI is very interesting, but in some regular consumers, it is too complicated, that is why we trying to make A & B groups mode to meet different needs.

We really appreciated more discuss to know more about your needs and try to find a better solution.

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M200 Flashlight 58% Off Sale!

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Hi, SKILHUNT! Any info about M300 release?

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Sorry, not sure yet.

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SKILHUNT wrote:
*Auction! *

https://www.skilhunt.com/product/auction-s3-pro-hd-nw-usb-rechargeable-t...

Woow, a real action. Is it charity initiative? Do you donate your profit to somebody?

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Big Smile Yes, it is real auction.
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Hi Skilhunt, any chance of a good discount on the H03R or H03R RC on your AliExpress store?

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