New WildTrail (former LuckSun) BLF-D80v2 Sale is open.

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@ Lexel It is the same reason why Lumintop is not using the LH351D. They can not source the leds in China. And ordering parts from the US is more expensive and a bit more complicated than it looks if you are living in China. If it were so easy and cheap Lumintop would have done it for the FW3A. We do not know the whole situation. I will ask about the SST-40. But if i remember right, the SST-40 is not available in high CRI. Or have i missed a new high CRI SST-40?

Fireflies had no problem sourcing parts from Arrow, they just need to pay more than sourcing from China
So if they will they can have the LEDs withing 2 days with Express paying about 14-20% taxes

still cheaper than Cree

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Well DUH! Of course the SST-40 is Luminus, geesh, musta had Samsung on the brain after slicing 18 of em….

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One question about the SST-40.
In the Datasheet i can find CCTs down to 4500K. But i can not find a shop with something warmer than 6500K.

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TheOnlyDocc wrote:
One question about the SST-40.
In the Datasheet i can find CCTs down to 4500K. But i can not find a shop with something warmer than 6500K.

The lower CCT’s of the SST40 are only just on the market and are not to be found yet. I expect KD to come up with some these days
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And only to confirm it. The SST-40 can be driven save with a fet driver? They bought a 7000K SST-40 to test it.

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7000K Facepalm

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Yeah. That’s not too good.

If they don’t even want to import an LH351D, just let them use XP-L HIs.

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They want to test with the led. For production they try to get a 6500K SST-40. The warmer ones are not available now.

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I got a nice message. LuckySun is able to get 5700K SST-40 for the D80. They also will sell a XP-L-HI version.
And for modders they will put a centering gasket for the SST-40 and one for XP size leds in the package (because the SST-40 is bigger they have to adjust the reflector led hole).
The plan was to go with 7mm (the original had a not so common 9,5mm hole). Now they will go with the more common size 9mm.

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Very nice. Of those two, will the SST-40 be much brighter?

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cabfrank wrote:
Very nice. Of those two, will the SST-40 be much brighter?

yes

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That is what I like to hear. Music to my ears, as they say.

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I am also very happy about the 5700K SST-40 (not a fan of the 6500K+ CCTs). I clearly would prefer the LH351D but they did the next best thing possible. They contacted almost every supplier they have and were able to get us the 5700K SST-40.
I think with all the other changes we are on a very good way to a nice powerfull light.
And with the additional centering gasket a led change is as easy as it can be.

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The lexel designed test driver is in and they are doing some testing. They are not used to bisto. So it is a bit of a struggle for them. I think without the previous successful BLF builds in mind they would have choosen a simple available driver. But now they invest the time, seeing so many people using these drivers.
Hope it all went well. If so, they should be not to far away from production.

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Do we have any idea how much it will cost?

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I asked for a ~price. But because they are using some new tooling in production it could be difficulte to set the price now. Possible they have to wait and see how much they have to scrap.
When i get a price i will put it in the first post.

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I think there is an important upgrade for the new D80. Taking mine apart I noticed there is a oring between the bezel and the glass, but no oring between the bezel and the head.

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@will34
There should be no o-ring between the bezel and the glass.
I checked one of my old D80. The o-ring should be between the glass the head and the reflector.
To see how it will look on the new D80 please check the first post (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/66255).
They also shorten the front a tiny bit so the o-ring gets compressed right. This way it should seal real nice.

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LS is almost ready with testing.
The driver is a sample driver (they told me the final driver will have a better quality PCB).
They get 7,2A @4V (with a Chinese 13Amp continious discharge cell) with the SST-40.
This means we are getting closer to production.

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Wow, these springs look dope.

Really nice. 7,2A is close to threshold though.

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If i understand it right, the tail spring will have a thicker wire. And the smaller driver spring will have the ledwire soldert at the battery contact point (so not much current will go through the driver spring).
But we can see that they really do their best to give us a way better D80 than the old one.

If we could choose a color for the new D80, what would you like to see? They will most likely not offer different colors. But maybe we can influence them a bit if there is a clear preference.

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Damn. Nice.

Perhaps a black and deanodized light would be great.

Ask them if they could do copper plated lights.

Would cost quite a bit more, but still less than a pure copper light.

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Are we worried about killing SST40s with FET drivers?

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This should be great. I would vote for any color other than black, if we have a choice.

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If the FT03 isn’t killing LEDs this probably wont either.

As for the material/color LuckySun actually does Stainless, Titanium, Colored Anno, etc so we should shoot for the moon here if someone has some good ideas. They might be more willing to try stuff than some other boring brands.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/all-wholesale-products/4498067.html?spm...

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I would prefer just a different color anno, not a more expensive material. That can be saved for a second production run, if, and when, it sells well.

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Scallywag wrote:

Are we worried about killing SST40s with FET drivers?


Only the weak ones will die….as it should be…. Wink

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Does anybody have an estimate of how many lumens we are looking at with the SST-40 at 7.2 amps? This thing should be really bright for a single emitter, right?

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I really liked the original color scheme.

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@cabfrank
If i check the SSt-40 test from Djozz http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54947 we can expect something arround 2200 lumen 7A.
I can not say what the final numbers are. When they tested they eliminated some resistance in comparison to a assembled light (no switch, no springs and no electrical contact points like tube to tailcap. . . .)
Also i have no idea about flux bin of the 5700K SST-40. They are relativly new. Until now you only could get the colder 6500K and above.

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