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Newlumen you should scan your computer for malware or something. Strange links are being inserted into your posts.

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DB Custom wrote:
The black panel locates the optics, it has a rim on the underside that the optics seat into so they stay in place. At the bottom of the optics holder are two pegs that seat into the emitter shelf to keep the base in position around the LED, the holder keeps the TIR at the right elevation above the LED for proper focus, so the black holder around the TIR and the black cover plate both serve the purpose of holding all 18 TIR’s in position.

Bummer

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beastlykings wrote:
Hank Wang wrote:
We now offer the floody version for the D18, the floody optics offer very smooth beam without any hotspot, which is good for close-up inspection, or used as a fill light !https://intl-outdoor.com/images/floody.png!

Hank! Thank you for this awesome light! Can we order the optics separately anywhere? Either throwy or floody? I may have scratched a couple of mine Facepalm

Conversely, I’d love to order the floody option and swap the center 6 for spot optics to get a hybrid beam.

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Firelight2 wrote:
I’d love a shorty 18350 tube for this light! Love

I’d love a 26350 tube for the D4S!

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ToyKeeper wrote:
I have a few soda-can lights. For most purposes I find them too large and too heavy, but I still find them useful for photography and lantern purposes. They’re good at providing fill light, when bounced off large surfaces. Also handy on a tripod. Or for lantern purposes, I’ll often put one on candle mode for several hours at a time. I keep a Q8 next to my bed and use the candle mode timer so I can see for a while but it turns itself off shortly after I go to sleep. Candle mode works well during a bath, too.

I recently bought a Q8, but wasn’t aware of a timed candle mode. Is this a modification you’ve done?

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funkychateau wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:
I have a few soda-can lights. For most purposes I find them too large and too heavy, but I still find them useful for photography and lantern purposes. They’re good at providing fill light, when bounced off large surfaces. Also handy on a tripod. Or for lantern purposes, I’ll often put one on candle mode for several hours at a time. I keep a Q8 next to my bed and use the candle mode timer so I can see for a while but it turns itself off shortly after I go to sleep. Candle mode works well during a bath, too.

I recently bought a Q8, but wasn’t aware of a timed candle mode. Is this a modification you’ve done?


Toykeeper reflashed her Q8 with Anduril.
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The Q8 is one of the easiest Anduril flashes you can do, next to the D4S. I recommend looking it up and getting the <$10 worth of AliExpress parts to do the job. Super rewarding.

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contactcr wrote:
Newlumen you should scan your computer for malware or something. Strange links are being inserted into your posts.

And I am still laughing. Big Smile

 

 

 

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Any new information on the 18350 shorty tube? I neeeed it haha.

Also replacement optics for sale anywhere? Do we know what are in this thing?

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Can I request to add individual floody optics with my order? Are they easily swapped?

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I got my TK style D18 last night. I was worried that it wouldn’t be floody enough to replace my M43 but the beam pattern is pretty similar. The amount of light this thing puts out is impressive.

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Got mine yesterday as well, it is smaller than I thought it was based on the photos, another great Emisar!

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Can a cr123 shorty tube be made? I want it!

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Recieved my D18vn today, I can barely get it to work I have to screw the head on so tight! I’m using button top HG2’s. Iv’e also tried button top 30q’s with the same problem.

Also looks like it has a spring bypass… don’t know if that is factory? if its not so you think its keeping the springs from compressing enough?

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

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BeardedRaleigh wrote:
Recieved my D18vn today, I can barely get it to work I have to screw the head on so tight! I’m using button top HG2’s. Iv’e also tried button top 30q’s with the same problem.

Also looks like it has a spring bypass… don’t know if that is factory? if its not so you think its keeping the springs from compressing enough?

Have you talked to vinh? He normally does that to support the higher power demands that a spring simply cannot do. He’s done this to a few of my vn lights.

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I was able to spend a couple minutes and check things out. Looks like too much solder on springs and they cannot compress. Bummer. Emailing him now. Hopefully we figure something out.

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

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I stopped doing spring bypasses on my lights after I got my shipment of low-resistance Be-Cu springs.

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I just realize one of the batteries was a Sofirn 2200mah and not the VTC5D. I remeasured using 3x VTC5D and got 12,400 lumens at 1s. Better but still less than what I expected.

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I measured my XP-L HI 4000k at 10,600 lumens at 1s with my TA lumen sphere calibrated with Maukka lights using VTC5D fresh off the charger. A bit disappointed with the output since the 7-emitter E07 makes 7,000 lumens at 1s, but the tint is very nice. The top of ramp is set the same as turbo so double click from off takes it directly to turbo. Typical Anduril lights sets the top of ramp at about 50% or so of turbo.

Does anyone else have the XP-L Hi version? I’m curious is the XP-L HI version dimmer than the SST-20 version. My M43 with XP-L HI 5D was 1,000 lumens lower than the XP-G2 5D version.

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SKV89 wrote:
I just realize one of the batteries was a Sofirn 2200mah and not the VTC5D. I remeasured using 3x VTC5D and got 12,400 lumens at 1s. Better but still less than what I expected.

SKV89 wrote:
I measured my XP-L HI 4000k at 10,600 lumens at 1s with my TA lumen sphere calibrated with Maukka lights using VTC5D fresh off the charger. A bit disappointed with the output since the 7-emitter E07 makes 7,000 lumens at 1s, but the tint is very nice. The top of ramp is set the same as turbo so double click from off takes it directly to turbo. Typical Anduril lights sets the top of ramp at about 50% or so of turbo.

Does anyone else have the XP-L Hi version? I’m curious is the XP-L HI version dimmer than the SST-20 version. My M43 with XP-L HI 5D was 1,000 lumens lower than the XP-G2 5D version.

That’s pretty good. You are getting number close to ANSI.

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SKV89 wrote:
I just realize one of the batteries was a Sofirn 2200mah and not the VTC5D. I remeasured using 3x VTC5D and got 12,400 lumens at 1s. Better but still less than what I expected.

SKV89 wrote:
I measured my XP-L HI 4000k at 10,600 lumens at 1s with my TA lumen sphere calibrated with Maukka lights using VTC5D fresh off the charger. A bit disappointed with the output since the 7-emitter E07 makes 7,000 lumens at 1s, but the tint is very nice. The top of ramp is set the same as turbo so double click from off takes it directly to turbo. Typical Anduril lights sets the top of ramp at about 50% or so of turbo.

Does anyone else have the XP-L Hi version? I’m curious is the XP-L HI version dimmer than the SST-20 version. My M43 with XP-L HI 5D was 1,000 lumens lower than the XP-G2 5D version.


Lumens at 1s are Ahh! and all, but are not really relevant and no one uses that measurement. I think we’d all like to see something more realistic once the output settles a bit. Maybe 15 to 30 seconds or maybe Turn on and 20 seconds so we see how it drops.
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Firelight, even the Blue springs benefit from spring bypass. I chopped a D Maglite and used the Q8 reflector with it’s board and XP-L HI emitters, counting on just the springs the output seemed low, a single tail spring bypass gained 500 lumens, I removed the one on the driver and used a solid copper contact. Now the light can make the expected 5000+ lumens on a hot cell.

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The collection was joined by Emisar D18.
I will say briefly, I like it very much.
Turbo withstands 30 seconds. When setting the temperature threshold to max, after 6 minutes I was able to warm it up to the temperature of 75 degrees Celsius. Beam profile similar to M43, looks reminiscent of a bejspol stick Smile

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sleasys14 wrote:
Can I request to add individual floody optics with my order? Are they easily swapped?
Yes, customs optics/LED mixing is welcome, just email your request to contact@intl-outdoor.com

www.Intl-Outdoor.com, Noctigon, Emisar, flashlight components.

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Amazing that you got so much lumens out of the 95 cri sst20. Its just a little bit less than my xpl hi version.

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Amazing that you got so much lumens out of the 95 cri sst20. Its just a little bit less than my xpl hi version.

Maybe do him cleaning the contacts. I undressed the whole thing, cleaned the contacts, the tube, the brass ring, everything I could. Then I re-greased the threads, twisted and just started to play. The result did not surprise me because I was counting on those 10000. It surprises me a bit, how poorly XP-L HI is. Sky Lumen did not squeeze out too much. Maybe it’s a matter of optics and poor fitting to XP-L HI?

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I will be looking at my friends D18 later today, expect to find gains but where and how much remains to be seen. It’s on the mail truck , looking forward to it.

He’s so excited to see what I do to it he didn’t even measure it on his new light box! lol So I have to get readings with a few different cells first, then I can start looking for the improvements…

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komeko wrote:
SKV89 wrote:
Amazing that you got so much lumens out of the 95 cri sst20. Its just a little bit less than my xpl hi version.

Maybe do him cleaning the contacts. I undressed the whole thing, cleaned the contacts, the tube, the brass ring, everything I could. Then I re-greased the threads, twisted and just started to play. The result did not surprise me because I was counting on those 10000. It surprises me a bit, how poorly XP-L HI is. Sky Lumen did not squeeze out too much. Maybe it’s a matter of optics and poor fitting to XP-L HI?

I did clean the contacts with alcohol but saw no gains. Sad but at least the xpl hi 5d tint is beautiful as usual

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I wonder how it would be a direct comparison of D18 with SST-20 4000K vs XP-L HI 5D

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I have the impression Hank should’ve went with a dual spring design on this one.

Dual BeCu springs would be nice as we wouldn’t need spring bypasses anymore at that point.

Having only 3 cells power it is limiting it.

So we need to do these things to get as much power out of it:
1. Figure a way to bypass the springs/add a small inner BeCu spring for even higher output.
2. Use higher efficiency optics if possible.
3. Clean everything well.
4. Use very high drain cells like the 20S/24S/VTC5A.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/64047
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Dang it Komeko, you make that black one look SO appealing! I might just have to go ahead and pull the trigger on one of my own!

Wonder if I could squeeze 2A’s in there? 3V XHP-50.2 2a’s… Big Smile

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