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Changed the emitters in my modded FW3A again tonight. Currently it’s sporting the following:

  • Two XPL HI 5D
  • One XPL HI 3D
  • Lee 279 minus-green filter.
  • Carclo 10507 optic.

I’ll give this a shot and see how I like it.

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I wonder if Manker quad lens would fit in it? Should require trimming the TIR less, so be more efficient.

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Amazing pictures and insight, thanks for uploading!
Great lights and mods, the only aspect that would irritate me personally is the rabbit Wink
+1 .. Except I think the rabbit looks cool. Thumbs Up

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I have nothing against rabbits, I just prefer cats or dogs Big Smile

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Fair enough. Still impressive skills though.

Thanks!

. Here is the Funky Square-ish Beam it produces… Big Smile !{width:80%}https://i.postimg.cc/hjmNQXg0/IMG-0433.jpg!

Quick and nice work still KB! Which 106xx optic did you use?


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cabfrank wrote:
Yeah. Are you going to change it back, or try other emitters?

Maybe just off it….. I’ll play with it all weekend then see?

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it is HERs now…the Sinner Triple Ti sits on the dresser …“the Lightning mode is amazing” should of never showed HER that…. Sad

You know what you have to do now, right?

Get her a matching diffuser cap, put the light in candle mode, and prepare her a nice hot bath. Innocent

Shocked We have a candle stand(s) in the bathroom. I put it in one of the tall ones that has a metal shade with cut outs of Stars in it, it sure does look great! Wink Thumbs Up

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KawiBoy1428 wrote:
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Quick and nice work still KB! Which 106xx optic did you use?


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Yeah. Are you going to change it back, or try other emitters?
Maybe just off it….. I’ll play with it all weekend then see?

You should at least try it with a 10622 before killing it off. The 10621 produces a significantly worse beam.

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Why yuck?
Alot is cut off/out at the bezel, the beam is kinda Funky, outside on Turbo not too bad for the few seconds you can use it…. and I mean seconds…. I prefer the triple….

After seeing the optic installed in the bezel I doubt I’ll be wasting any time with the quad. I really am not a fan of tiny triples/quads anyway TBH. In my experience, ‘real world efficacy’ would be better in the units of lux/W. 20MM Carclos don’t deliver that IMO.

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Agro wrote:
I wonder if Manker quad lens would fit in it? Should require trimming the TIR less, so be more efficient.

That is exactly what I was thinking, the Astrolux/ Manker optic is 22mm vs the Carclo 24mm.
I cannot find any MCPCBs for it though? The optic is still available through BG I think.
It could possibly be installed without modification depending on the head threads?
Where is my light dammit! Big Smile

I’m not going to make my FW3A into a quad as I have the SR4 where I used the smaller manker quad optics.
The SR4 is solid copper with a lot more mass and can barely manage the heat on full pelt.
I think a quad setup in the FW3A is pointless unless you use W1/ W2 emitters.
Optics comparison:

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CRX, what is the height difference?

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Manker:
Front flat to optic opening is 6.66mm, Front to legs end 8.34mm

Carclo:
Front flat to optic opening is 5.06mm, Front to legs end 7.54mm

So 0.8mm.

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Maybe it would be possible to get MCPCBs from Mateminco?
0.8 mm…doesn’t seem impossible to find for someone with the skills and inclination of CRX. Smile

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This is true Big Smile

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Jay wrote:
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Quick and nice work still KB! Which 106xx optic did you use?


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KawiBoy1428 wrote:
cabfrank wrote:
Yeah. Are you going to change it back, or try other emitters?
Maybe just off it….. I’ll play with it all weekend then see?

You should at least try it with a 10622 before killing it off. The 10621 produces a significantly worse beam.


Why? Its not the optic.

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Last night I tried a couple more LED setups in my FW3A

  • Triple LH351D 90 CRI 4000K – I was not impressed. As expected, due to the floody emitter the hotspot was much bigger, but with much less intensity than XPL HI. Ultimately I decided LH351D was simply too floody and quickly swapped it back out of the light.

  • Triple XPL HI – composed of two 4000K 5D and one 5000K 3D. Much better. I also added Lee 279 minus green filter for even better tint.
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Firelight2 wrote:
Last night I tried a couple more LED setups in my FW3A
  • Triple LH351D 90 CRI 4000K – I was not impressed. As expected, due to the floody emitter the hotspot was much bigger, but with much less intensity than XPL HI. Ultimately I decided LH351D was simply too floody and quickly swapped it back out of the light.

  • Triple XPL HI – composed of two 4000K 5D and one 5000K 3D. Much better. I also added Lee 279 minus green filter for even better tint.
Thanks for the report. I was thinking about trying the LH351D… but the reported flood is not what I want.

Mixing the XP-L HI’s sounds good. Gonna give that a try. Thumbs Up

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Teacher, if you got the Samsung triple available you could try them and then slice them for less flood?

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@ Umpi2000 … Good point…. thanks for the suggestion. Thumbs Up

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Still no light yet but I made these.

I had a little go at making some rigid glow gaskets using magnets Wink 

LIT glow powder mixed with UV glue.

Aqua blue, aqua blue & green, green.

I'm also trying out a couple with silicone.CRX glow gaskets

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those looks really nice, CRX

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Thanks mate, yeah not too bad for my first attempt Thumbs Up

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Yeah… those look great!! Beer

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Too bad only 0.001% of humanity has CRX like ninja modding skills.

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I hope it’s 0.001%.
I’m afraid it may be as low as 0.000000013%

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CRX wrote:

Still no light yet but I made these.

I had a little go at making some rigid glow gaskets using magnets Wink

LIT glow powder mixed with UV glue.


Good work !
I knew you would make something like this. Big Smile
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Updated the first post with pics of the latest work and beamshots.. hope ya’ll enjoy!

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Updated the first post with pics of the latest work and beamshots.. hope ya’ll enjoy!
Thanks for the update, looking good too. Thumbs Up

Got a question: It that a fly tying vice holding the driver in this picture??

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I got impatient, so I modded a FW3A XP-L HI to use 219B instead. It’s a sw45k triple now, and it’ll probably be my daily carry light for a long time… because FW3A is my favorite light and it’s awfully hard to beat 219B for tint and general beam quality.

Overall output is very close to what Bob posted… but mine is about 3% lower because all my measurements are about 3% lower than his. I think we jut have slightly different calibration on our integrating devices.

  • Moon: 0.1 lm
  • 1×7135: 93.5 lm
  • 8×7135: 622 lm
  • FET: 1384 lm (with a 4.0V cell)

This is measured with a tube calibrated to match some reference lights from maukka, so I think it’s probably pretty close to accurate. It’s nice that the variation between people’s measurements is so small now, instead of being as much as 50% off like things were a few years ago.

Anyway, for the time being, I basically optimized my EDC light to taste as much as possible. Time to go work on something else, I guess.

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TK wrote:
Anyway, for the time being, I basically optimized my EDC light to taste as much as possible. Time to go work on something else, I guess.

I was at that point 6 years ago Facepalm

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