LiitoKala lii-500S - New HIT or ...?

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… Like I still wish I could turn off the backlight of my Maha MH-C9000. The damn thing lights up the whole room at night.

Sure you can fix that, c’mon. With a piece of dark cardboard, a small glass cleaning cloth or something similar.

That’s why I consider my Opus BT-3100 so far the best-designed of them all. Long press (5 sec) the ‘Display’ button if you want the backlight to be ON all the time, otherwise, it stays off YET the LCD screen shows ALL channels doing their thing all the time. Beautiful UI, I should say.

LiitoKala Lii-500S
Long press (2 sec) the 1-4 button to keep the backlight on or off.

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LiitoKala Lii-500S
Long press (2 sec) the 1-4 button to keep the backlight on or off.

Thanks for sharing. Where did you get that from?
It’s not mentioned in the online manual.
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Nisei wrote:
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LiitoKala Lii-500S Long press (2 sec) the 1-4 button to keep the backlight on or off.
Thanks for sharing. Where did you get that from? It’s not mentioned in the online manual.

lucky guess…

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LiitoKala Lii-500S
Long press (2 sec) the 1-4 button to keep the backlight on or off.

Thanks for sharing. Where did you get that from?

Translation: out of desperate fiddling with the device and just before hitting it with a hammer.  Innocent 

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lucky guess…

Great!
So does the setting stay even after you power it off or does it revert to the display off after 15 sec. again? (Can’t try it myself because I haven’t received it yet).
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Translation: out of desperate fiddling with the device and just before hitting it with a hammer.  Innocent 
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lucky guess…
Great! So does the setting stay even after you power it off or does it revert to the display off after 15 sec. again? (Can’t try it myself because I haven’t received it yet).

No,500s will not save setting.

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No, 500s will not save setting.

Ah well, at least we have a choice now.
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Is it possible to disable the beeping on the Lii-500s?
It’s driving me nuts Smile

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Is it possible to disable the beeping on the Lii-500s?

Of course! Big Smile Open your Lii-500S, locate the buzzer inside, and either smash it, desolder some of its leads or just remove it. Problem solved. (^̮^)

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Haha, i seriously need to do that. Was hoping there was a settings for that.

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Ear plugs. Smile

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I’m completely fine with the noise, i’m noisy myself so touché to me. It’s when i toggle settings at the office i’m disturbing everyone else!
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Haha, i seriously need to do that. Was hoping there was a settings for that.

Perhaps there is but it’s not in the manual.
Try every single long keypress and key combination you can think of and let us know if you’ve succeeded.
Might as well be something like:
Press channel 1 button 68 times, then put your left pinky toe on the mode button while holding the Current button with your tongue for 2 minutes.
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Tried now and nothing helped.

Just a warning to anybody that wants to get a Lii-500s. It doesn’t measure and display the internal resistance of the batteries. I know that function didn’t work good enough in the Lii-500.

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If you’re reading the charger reviews on lygte-info.dk you’ll see that especially the lower priced chargers hardly ever do a good job when it comes to reading resistance.
I think they made a good decision by leaving it out instead of keeping the feature while it’s not working.

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so what should i buy ? the 500 or the 500S there is sooooo much information in this thread for experts that non experts dosent understand Sad or should i choose another charger ?

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Depends what you need.
If you don’t need discharge and test modes and are just looking for a decent charger then you might as well buy a more simple charger.
But for $21.90 including shipping the 500S is a great deal.
I’m very happy with it.

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so what should i buy ? the 500 or the 500S there is sooooo much information in this thread for experts that non experts dosent understand Sad or should i choose another charger ?

If you don’t need to test cell capacities then there are many simpler chargers available, including some from Liitokala. However, if you do want to measure capacity then either the 500 or 500S will work just fine and are probably the least expensive analyzing chargers you will find.

Both chargers have similar functionality, but the 500S will also discharge a cell and stop, which was a feature that I really needed, but am unable to do with my Lii-500 Sad . I missed the newer model by just 3 months or so.

If you don’t need to discharge batteries (most people don’t), then the 500 is great and is slightly less expensive (ignoring coupon codes). If you want a fast 2-amp charge rate and a Discharge mode, then the 500S is a better choice. I don’t like the “inverse” display or the touch buttons on the 500S, but I would still choose it over the 500 if the price were right.

Non-experts might prefer a charger that doesn’t offer a selectable charge rate, however, since some batteries should not be charged at 2 amps. If that sentence is gibberish to you, then I recommend getting a simple charger that has no user settings and has only colored LED’s to indicate either “charging” or “finished”. Lithium-ion charging circuits are ubiquitous in Chinese manufacturing today and thus even some of the least expensive chargers available will work just fine and operate safely.

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so what should i buy ? the 500 or the 500S there is sooooo much information in this thread for experts that non experts dosent understand Sad or should i choose another charger ?

I would choose 500S as it has temperature sensors to prevent overheating and supports charging 21700 cells. These cells will become much more common than today. No doubt you will need a 21700 charger. Other chargers can be Miboxer C4-12 and BLF UC4 Also Liitokala Lii-402 will in not long time be upgraded to fit 21700s.

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I would not recommend the BLF charger to non-experts as it will have too many options requiring some technical knowledge, but I intended to mention that the 500S accepts most 21700 cells, which will almost certainly be more and more relevant in the future. Thanks to RapidLux for pointing this out.

Unless something weird happens, 21700’s are likely to become the standard cell for medium to large lights and they won’t fit in the 500. I have a Sofirn 21700 and do fit it into my Lii-500, but it barely fits and cramming it in there tends to bend the battery sliders. Don’t try this at home Wink .

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I have the 500S and Samsung 40T and 50E both fit with room to spare. I don’t think it would fit protected cells though. My Nitecore UMS2 can fit protected 21700 cells.

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thank you all for the very nice answers – i allready have the 500, but 4 days ago when i needed to use it for the 9-10 time since i bought it 14 months ago, it almost cought fire (smoke started to come out of it), so i imediately disconected it from the powergrid…..

so i have to order a new one, but judging from your guys answers, it should be the new 500s that i buy, instead of the 500 Smile

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so what should i buy ? the 500 or the 500S there is sooooo much information in this thread for experts that non experts dosent understand Sad or should i choose another charger ?

I would choose 500S as it has temperature sensors to prevent overheating and supports charging 21700 cells. These cells will become much more common than today. No doubt you will need a 21700 charger. Other chargers can be Miboxer C4-12 and BLF UC4 Also Liitokala Lii-402 will in not long time be upgraded to fit 21700s.

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briankdk wrote:
so what should i buy ? the 500 or the 500S there is sooooo much information in this thread for experts that non experts dosent understand Sad or should i choose another charger ?

If you don’t need to test cell capacities then there are many simpler chargers available, including some from Liitokala. However, if you do want to measure capacity then either the 500 or 500S will work just fine and are probably the least expensive analyzing chargers you will find.

Both chargers have similar functionality, but the 500S will also discharge a cell and stop, which was a feature that I really needed, but am unable to do with my Lii-500 Sad . I missed the newer model by just 3 months or so.

If you don’t need to discharge batteries (most people don’t), then the 500 is great and is slightly less expensive (ignoring coupon codes). If you want a fast 2-amp charge rate and a Discharge mode, then the 500S is a better choice. I don’t like the “inverse” display or the touch buttons on the 500S, but I would still choose it over the 500 if the price were right.

Non-experts might prefer a charger that doesn’t offer a selectable charge rate, however, since some batteries should not be charged at 2 amps. If that sentence is gibberish to you, then I recommend getting a simple charger that has no user settings and has only colored LED’s to indicate either “charging” or “finished”. Lithium-ion charging circuits are ubiquitous in Chinese manufacturing today and thus even some of the least expensive chargers available will work just fine and operate safely.

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Depends what you need. If you don’t need discharge and test modes and are just looking for a decent charger then you might as well buy a more simple charger. But for $21.90 including shipping the 500S is a great deal. I’m very happy with it.
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Are you guys happy with the new Lii-500S? Is it a good replacement for the old Lii-500 or would you go for another charger? Does it take protected 21700 batteries? When will there be a real review of this charger?

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I picked up this charger a few months ago because there was a sale going on and it was cheap. I used it a couple times to successfully charge some 21700 and 18650 cells. When a cell completes charging the indicator for that bank turns green and the charger beeps. A couple of weeks ago I was using this charger to top up a 30Q and I felt like it was taking an unreasonable amount of time. I checked on the charger and the light was still red and the screen indicated that it was still charging, but the voltage reading was 4.20. I took the cell off the charger and measured it with a multimeter at 4.27v.

I thought it might have been a weird quirk but didn’t use the charger again for a couple of weeks because I didn’t really trust it. I decided to try it again today and put a Sanyo GA in the charger. I watched it closely and when it reached 4.20v it did not chime and the light remained red. I waited another 10 minutes and took the cell off the charger. When I measured it with a multimeter it was at 4.23v. I decided I didn’t want to keep a charger around that I can’t trust not to overcharge my cells if I don’t babysit it. I unplugged it and tossed it directly in the bin.

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The 500S can’t do LiFePo anymore, can it?

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No, the manual specifically states it is incompatible with LiFePO4. That was the first thing I checked.

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Jerommel wrote:
The 500S can't do LiFePo anymore, can it?

Can't do LiFePO anymore? As far as I know the 500 can't do LiFePO either, at least not without a mod. Wink

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Oh, i didn’t even know that..
Are you sure?

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Jerommel wrote:
Oh, i didn’t even know that.. Are you sure?

Yes. The Lii-500 amd Lii-500S support only li-ion (4.2V) and NiMH (1.48V).

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