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Jay wrote:
The “recessed button” in the first post just looks like the current D4 button to me. Might be wise to wait for more info before getting your hopes up.

If it is not recessed that would suck.

However, I will still get it since I want the knurled body tube. I can and have made recessed buttons for my other D4s and could do that for the v2 if necessary.

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Aside from the flatulent haha price of a double C-note, what does the V2 offer
That improves on the OG?

& who is gonna stock these gems, my FAS is growing.

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I’d like to see a 21700 optional battery tube.

The stock battery tube on the D4 is quite thick. I think there is room to bore it out for a larger cell without increasing the external dimensions of the light.


The stock tube is thick on the D4 for a reason. It provides better heat sinking. To make a 21700 tube by boring out the 18.650 tube might work,but at the expense of heat handling. That’s not something I would want, especially with a higher capacity battery. It would mean the light would run hotter on high output, forcing you or the light to step brightness down. On the other hand, with a thick wall tube you can run the light on high longer, while gaining the longer run time advantage of the 21700 cell.
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contactcr wrote:
I heard someone who ordered a D4 recently got one with programming pads. If I had to guess that was probably the new driver meant for this light. If that’s the case you can probably rule out 3 channel FET.

photo from above thread:
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I’m not sure this is a bad thing. The tightly packed 7135s on the visible side of the FW3A driver leave them vulnerable to damage or shorts, force them to use a smaller spring, and don’t leave room for a programming header. There’s no obvious choice here.

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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67638”: Official announcement (as if it needed one)

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sbslider wrote:
"http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67638": Official announcement (as if it needed one)

The text in the link is correct, but clicking on the link leads to an error page.

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Terry Oregon wrote:

sbslider wrote:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67638”: Official announcement (as if it needed one)

The text in the link is correct, but clicking on the link leads to an error page.


I fooled around with this for a few minutes and finally gave up. I clicked the link after your comment above and it worked, maybe you clicked while I was still fooling around. Never did figure out why I could not get it to format how I wanted, I’m guessing the ()`

EDIT: The only one that works is in Terry Oregon’s post, can’t figure this one out, over trying . . . . Facepalm

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thanks guys, I was going to go back and edit, but no need now.

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sbslider wrote:
thanks guys, I was going to go back and edit, but no need now.

It’s because the symbols were included in the url

Not sure how to do code samples on this forum (the usual BB Code isn’t working), but the easiest way to avoid the problem is just to have a space on each side of a URL like this: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67638

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patmurris wrote:
the same light can have different aux colors it looks like they are selectable via the config UI? – like the aux board has red green and blue leds that can be conbined?
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NO! even if the driver MCU had enough pins to control this, there is not enough space to route RGB LEDs on a 2 layer board, those LEDs are also too big and Hank doesnot want any complicated Aux boards

Actually… YES! Party

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Each light has all the colors, you can choose any color by any time through ui.
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Just a quick note: I got the go-ahead to talk about the D4V2, so I plan to put up a review-ish thing soon. (not sure it really counts as a review since I was involved in the development, but hopefully it’ll at least answer everyone’s questions)

The short version is: It’s the same retina-searing D4 people have enjoyed for the past couple years… but better. And some of the upgrades are brand new things which aren’t found anywhere else. Some of it is immediately visible, like the multi-color aux LEDs… but some of it is hidden under the hood — Hank invested in building new foundations for the next generation of lights. Others will no doubt try to copy the improvements as fast as they can, since that’s how the game works… but hopefully people will at least remember it’s Emisar leading the way.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Just a quick note: I got the go-ahead to talk about the D4V2, so I plan to put up a review-ish thing soon. (not sure it really counts as a review since I was involved in the development, but hopefully it’ll at least answer everyone’s questions)

The short version is: It’s the same retina-searing D4 people have enjoyed for the past couple years… but better. And some of the upgrades are brand new things which aren’t found anywhere else. Some of it is immediately visible, like the multi-color aux LEDs… but some of it is hidden under the hood — Hank invested in building new foundations for the next generation of lights. Others will no doubt try to copy the improvements as fast as they can, since that’s how the game works… but hopefully people will at least remember it’s Emisar leading the way.

Is it mainly the upgrade and rewrite for the Tiny1634 which is a huge change?

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Hello, I found this and already ordered mine !!! I always buy Emisar from this site … D4V2 already exists!

https://intl-outdoor.com/emisar-d4v2-high-power-led-flashlight-p-940.html

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ToyKeeper wrote:
it's Emisar leading the way.

Take that, Lumintop.

nick779 wrote:
Is it mainly the upgrade and rewrite for the Tiny1634 which is a huge change?

It likely has programming VIAs, the switch is hopefully recessed to prevent the D4 pocket-rocket's infamous in-pocket-launches and if there's a new MCU that's good news too. Also we have to count the RGB aux LEDs, which are a step up. Depending on the hardware capability, it could just be a matter of "more coding work MORE" before people do really interesting things with JUST those LEDs. 

The funny thing is, Hank already has sone SO MANY things right with his lights that we can still rarely get other manufacturers to check the same boxes. Like:

  • High current springs
  • Small form factor
  • Quality machining
  • Good Optics (I'm remembering in particular a comparison between the D1S and one of the smaller GTs where the Emisar had a much better reflector, but I have no source; also, definitely a shot at Lumintop's recent scandal)
  • Interesting Colors (for the lights, I don't need more black lights and I'm running out of room for gray)
  • Sells almost everything separately, which is super useful for replacement parts
  • NO GLUE (like, is it really that hard?)
  • Good UI (rampingOS isn't Anduril but half the time we can't keep HML or LMHML or whatever crap out of lights still)

 

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Yeah, it’s really amazing.

It rarely happens, but Hank is the example of what happens when someone likes doing their hobby as their job.

I’d like to iterate too on your points.

- High current springs. The 1st bang for buck manufacturer to actually use high quality Beryllium copper springs.
- Small farm factor. Tolerances must be very small, so it’s great that we can have a small light.
- Same thing.
- Good optics too. The reflector on the D1S had better plating on the reflector, which didn’t affect the beam or output, but made for a higher looking quality light
- Yeah. Especially white. White is expensive to anodize.
- Props to this too.
- Quality engineering means no glue is required. Unlike some companies, Apple, cough.
- Good UI. God this.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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Well, I thought I was done for a while (yeah, right), but since I do not have an Emisar (what is WRONG with me?), I will have to get one of these. Im looking forward to TK’s write up, a lot. Interesting that the SST-20s are only 100 lumens less than the XPLs.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Just a quick note: I got the go-ahead to talk about the D4V2, so I plan to put up a review-ish thing soon. (not sure it really counts as a review since I was involved in the development, but hopefully it’ll at least answer everyone’s questions)

The short version is: It’s the same retina-searing D4 people have enjoyed for the past couple years… but better. And some of the upgrades are brand new things which aren’t found anywhere else. Some of it is immediately visible, like the multi-color aux LEDs… but some of it is hidden under the hood — Hank invested in building new foundations for the next generation of lights. Others will no doubt try to copy the improvements as fast as they can, since that’s how the game works… but hopefully people will at least remember it’s Emisar leading the way.

Looking forward to the review Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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cabfrank wrote:
Interesting that the SST-20s are only 100 lumens less than the XPLs.

Just to be clear, only the non high-CRI SST’s are 100 lumens less than the XPL’s. The high CRI versions are 1300 lumens less.
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Yeah, I saw that. They must get really hot.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Just a quick note: I got the go-ahead to talk about the D4V2, so I plan to put up a review-ish thing soon. (not sure it really counts as a review since I was involved in the development, but hopefully it’ll at least answer everyone’s questions)

The short version is: It’s the same retina-searing D4 people have enjoyed for the past couple years… but better. And some of the upgrades are brand new things which aren’t found anywhere else. Some of it is immediately visible, like the multi-color aux LEDs… but some of it is hidden under the hood — Hank invested in building new foundations for the next generation of lights. Others will no doubt try to copy the improvements as fast as they can, since that’s how the game works… but hopefully people will at least remember it’s Emisar leading the way.

I am very much looking forward to it!

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Starkm32 wrote:
my FAS is growing.

I prefer the term used in the music synthesizer industry… GAS.

Gear Acquisition Syndrome

It works especially well for flashlights… because if someone posts a review and makes you question how you ever lived without it, they’re GASlighting you. Big Smile

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Okay, the review is up…

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67661

I hope it answers everyone’s questions.

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Hank invested in building new foundations for the next generation of lights.

Is it mainly the upgrade and rewrite for the Tiny1634 which is a huge change?[/quote]

Mostly the tiny1634, since so many projects were running into limitations with the tiny85. But there’s also other stuff I can’t talk about yet. And more generally, he has been pushing the development of many aspects of lights, like in the list a few comments ago.

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CLB wrote:
cabfrank wrote:
Interesting that the SST-20s are only 100 lumens less than the XPLs.

Just to be clear, only the non high-CRI SST’s are 100 lumens less than the XPL’s. The high CRI versions are 1300 lumens less.

The SST-20’s are a less efficient than the XP-L’s, although only significantly less at higher currents, but because of their lower voltage, and the D4 being a direct drive flashlight in the highest mode, they make up for that with a higher current/wattage and end up with the same output as the XP-L Hi, at the cost of warming up considerably faster.
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ToyKeeper wrote:
Starkm32 wrote:
my FAS is growing.

I prefer the term used in the music synthesizer industry… GAS.

Gear Acquisition Syndrome

It works especially well for flashlights… because if someone posts a review and makes you question how you ever lived without it, they’re GASlighting you. Big Smile


LOL, you are hilarious!
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Mostly the tiny1634, since so many projects were running into limitations with the tiny85. But there’s also other stuff I can’t talk about yet.

Ugh thats such a tease. Hopefully the next few months get more interesting.

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Thread titles says “Emisar D4v2 leaked” … it must be defective if it leaked. LOL

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It looks the same to me except for the 21700 tube Facepalm

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nick779 wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:

Mostly the tiny1634, since so many projects were running into limitations with the tiny85. But there’s also other stuff I can’t talk about yet.

Ugh thats such a tease. Hopefully the next few months get more interesting.

D1Sv2 presumably to start. It’s also on clearance and out of stock (as is the D4Ti).

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