AliExpress now requires login just to view item pages

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cayman wrote:
I need a few items off AE, and this screen shows up several times a day. AFTER I swipe, login again, type in a captcha and wait:

It shows several cars driving into the entrance of an AliExpress store bag/shop.
Not sure what it means.

That’s hilarious. I haven’t seen it yet, but it suggests that too many cars are trying to drive into their store building. A strange metaphor, in my opinion, as how many stores have drive-thru lanes?

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Lux-Perpetua wrote:

Concerning the „message center“…


I used to communicate with sellers (e.g. Cissy from Sofirn, Simon from Convoy) very often. Now, even with the AX iPhone app, replies from sellers disappear out of a sudden while very old replies reappear as their latest answer. This is a real problem.

Regarding the new “message center” of AliExpress.

(I mostly use the desktop PC web browser to browse AliExpress, I normally only use the mobile App version when I have decided to purchase some items, since usually the mobile prices of items are slightly cheaper — several cents cheapers when using the mobile app. Also, I haven’t been updating my mobile AE app so it’s still a relatively older version, which may not support the new message center.)

So what I’m mentioning will mostly be based on the desktop web browser. I notice there is a new message center. And it is a bit confusing, because the replies could be in the “old” message center, while my new reply will be in the new ‘message center’. So it could get hard to follow, if the response exists in the old but not in the new, or vice-versa. AE is sort of encouraging or forcing the use of the new message center now.

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I have given up using AE on the web, the app is frictionless. maybe that is the goal all along, push people to use mobile only.

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The app is frictionless? How is the app search wise? Powerful searching is key to me. Something which can only show me a handful of items per page on a smartphone is useless. Some times I inspect hundreds of items per search. I also distrust applications from stores and crap like that.

 

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cayman wrote:

It shows several cars driving into the entrance of an AliExpress store bag/shop.
Not sure what it means.

“Oh my God, we’re all going to crash into the side-walls of the entrance!!”

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Ha, that error message looks like it’s blaming you for being a bad browser driver. “It’s not us, it’s you” Sad

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Barkuti wrote:
… I also distrust applications from stores and crap like that.

+1. I could rant about this for awhile, but nobody wants that so let’s just say that there are good reasons to hate appification.

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After some tests. Once you signed in AliExpress with an account it adds your IP into their database. So every time you want to search something for example AliExpress checks your IP and is looking for a linked to the IP account. If that pair exists then AliExpress makes you sign in. I used VPN to hide my IP and it removed all restrictions in the same browser. Also there are not problems in network where nobody singed in AliExpress ever. Anyway I don’t think it’s a good practice because AliExpress keeps all information that can be used by hackers. Hackers can know your home address and your IP thanks to AliExpress.

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And I just noticed that they are starting to collect Taxes? WTF!!! They are in China FFS!!!

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Taxes were already discussed here: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/68031

I’m not familiar with taxes in the US, but they might be required to collect taxes if they want to do it right. At least for EU customers they don’t care about taxes, declare everything as gift or use some dubious ways to bring all packets inside the EU without paying taxes.

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They all charge tax now, even eBay, before I never paid tax for out of state sellers. I also see 2 charges on my card, one to the seller and one to ebay for tax.

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I usually login first, most times in fact, but I can check out AliExpress items without being logged in. Just FYI. Innocent 

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My experience has changed since my last remarks. At the moment I can again view most item pages without needing to login. I have no clue how anything works anymore Hat . AliExpress continues to require the following for me to login:

  1. Enter username and password, press Signin (default [Enter] key)
  2. Slide verification bar, press Signin (default [Enter] key No focus, so must use mouse)
  3. Answer Captcha, press OK/Signin (default [Enter] key)
  4. Slide verification bar, press Signin (default [Enter] key No focus, so must use mouse)

Sometimes the #4 verification bar doesn’t appear, but I must still use the mouse to press Signin again.

That process has remained consistent for the past few months and I’ve learned it well. However, I just now went to double-check before posting and something insane happened; it let me log in with just:

  1. Enter username and password, press Signin (default [Enter] key)

No verification bar, Captcha, or anything else. WTF?!?!?!? As I said, I have no clue how anything works anymore. This is the first time I’ve signed in with only a username, password, and [Enter] key since the new website went live at the beginning of the year. Nothing has changed on my end, as this is the same device and IP (or IP range) that I’ve had all year.

[Edit 2019-11-07] Things went back to the usual long process, so perhaps it depends on how old my cookie is or how long since my IP was logged. Who knows.

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I find it annoying that I have to sign in every few hours. So now I don’t shop unless I really have to.

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Bart says it best

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atobe wrote:
I find it annoying that I have to sign in every few hours. So now I don’t shop unless I really have to.

I concur. Between that, and the incessant new user coupon overlay on every screen, I’ve stopped casually browsing on AX.

Even worse, I’ve found that in the past, the site would shunt you to an login page that wasn’t secured.

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atobe wrote:
I find it annoying that I have to sign in every few hours. So now I don’t shop unless I really have to.

I concur. Between that, and the incessant new user coupon overlay on every screen, I’ve stopped casually browsing on AX.

+1. I hate the coupon pop-ups on every single page; they make you want to punch someone. However, I no longer see these, so perhaps I managed to disable exactly the right script or got lucky somehow [crosses fingers].

I also despise the nearly universal trend to now place floating button bars along the side of every page. They are constantly in the way of reading and cannot be disabled unless you’re a javascript wizard. I don’t understand why stores now insist upon having them. I’ve even had at least one occasion where I could not click a checkout button because the floaty bar was in the way! Stop the floaties!

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Even worse, I’ve found that in the past, the site would shunt you to an login page that wasn’t secured.

Wow, I’m going to keep a better lookout for that, as I suspect that I’ve recently been letting my guard down about checking for that.

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I also despise the nearly universal trend to now place floating button bars along the side of every page. They are constantly in the way of reading and cannot be disabled unless you’re a javascript wizard. I don’t understand why stores now insist upon having them. I’ve even had at least one occasion where I could not click a checkout button because the floaty bar was in the way! Stop the floaties!

Kill Sticky is a weapon I’ve long relied on to handle them.

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Sofirn has an ebay store. I just got SF11, SF34, SP33 and D25 headlamp, all 4 for $60, and I didn’t wait for a month to get them

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Kill Sticky is a weapon I’ve long relied on to handle them.

Thanks! I don’t keep a bookmarks bar exposed anymore, but I’ll some way to keep it handy. I was sure that there was likely some script in greasemonkey or something to do this, but had never looked into it and a bookmarklet is a nice solution.

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I came up with an initial solution for Kill Stickies that might suit my needs (see follow-up).  I added an extension to my browser (Firefox) called Custom Style Script that allows per page javascript or CSS code and offers a toolbar button to switch it on or off.

I then went into the Custom Style Script settings and entered the following in section III. Code:

URL=
*

Javascript=
  var i, elements = document.querySelectorAll('body *');

  for (i = 0; i < elements.length; i++) {
    if (getComputedStyle(elements[i]).position === 'fixed') {
      elements[i].parentNode.removeChild(elements[i]);
    }
  }

Or if you'd like to see the stickies for a few seconds before they disappear, then:

Javascript=

setTimeout(function(){
  var i, elements = document.querySelectorAll('body *');

  for (i = 0; i < elements.length; i++) {
    if (getComputedStyle(elements[i]).position === 'fixed') {
      elements[i].parentNode.removeChild(elements[i]);
    }
  }
}, 5000);

Where "5000" is the delay in milliseconds.


I then pressed the "+" bar to add it to the database and all floaties/stickies seem to be removed so far.  They do appear for a few milliseconds upon page load even with zero delay, but they quickly disappear as I'm sure that the custom script is run after the page loads.  If I want the floaties to come back, I simply click the toolbar button, click the "power" button for the extension, and refresh that page and any others.

Not having stickies may cause navigation problems, but I don't want to have to run a bookmarklet every single time I load a page at AliExpress or elsewhere.  We'll see how it goes.

Yes, Greasemonkey is a far more capable solution, but it's much larger and likely slower than Custom Style Script.  Use whichever you prefer or is available in your browser.

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After some testing, I should warn that you probably don’t want the “full time” fixed element blocker that I posted above, because it also breaks any site where the header “becomes” fixed (sticky) after you scroll down. The header will remain available after loading the page, but if you scroll down it becomes fixed and the Kill Stickies code then removes it. The header does not return even after scrolling back to the top of the page, so you can only use the Kill Stickies code temporarily or it will break many sites, including YouTube.

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leftdisconnected wrote:
After some testing, I should warn that you probably don't want the "full time" fixed element blocker that I posted above, because it also breaks any site where the header "becomes" fixed (sticky) after you scroll down. The header will remain available after loading the page, but if you scroll down it becomes fixed and the Kill Stickies code then removes it. …

Sorry to say but I hate the way stickies are used. They stick stupid search bars and shite in many many sites, taking up screen space like illegal squatters. My screen is to view content, to be useable, available and useful. Just a decade ago there were no stickies at all (!) and everything worked nicely. Now large heaps of screen space are squandered in many badly designed sites, especially in landscape mode which I use a lot with my smartphone (mostly because I can comfortably use the keyboard while in landscape, and it is more natural anyway). I don't need stupid sticky squatter bars like in G00gl€ $earch, Youtube, AliExpress, also Facebook places me a supersized sticky because I am not registered just to read some crap… it's freaking stupid dumbass. Flat Stare

 

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On the bright side, think about stickies just like frames.

Every idiot wanted to (mis)use them for everything, to the point where hitting the web was an infuriating experience, until they just died out when the next even more idiotic new thing came into vogue.

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No need for complicated JS/CSS injection!

An easier way to filter unwanted web content is offered by µblock origin (extension for Firefox, Chrome/Chromium browsers), it’s easy to “right-click > Block element…” the annoying thingies in a web page

Also works great for facebook “sign up to see the rest of the page or die” crap!

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I never had issues with viewing item pages, in my case Aliexpress has preiods when they require me to log in to search products. It’s happening right now, I cannot search anything, clicking the search button redirects me to the login page. So annoying!

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Lightbringer wrote:
… until they just died out when …

Well, then it is my will for all unneeded and unwanted stickies to die out, which in my wise opinion is nearly all of them. So be it, now

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AgentSteel wrote:
No need for complicated JS/CSS injection!

An easier way to filter unwanted web content is offered by µblock origin (extension for Firefox, Chrome/Chromium browsers), it’s easy to “right-click > Block element…” the annoying thingies in a web page…

Yes, but in my experience uBO only removes the element temporarily and does not “remember” to block each zapped element. I’ve used uBO since it was split from uBlock and would like it to remember zapped elements, so please correct me if I’m using it wrong Smile .

Yes, the sticky trend has reminded many of us of the whole Frames/iFrames fiasco and I cannot fathom how the website designers thought floaty, sticky elements would be a good idea after the historical hatred for frames.

Good to see I’m not the only one who hates these things. On some sites, they simply pop up an arrow in the lower-right corner that returns you to the top of the page. This may be somewhat useful on devices without keyboard shortcuts to return to the top, but even this rather “tasteful” sticky sometimes gets in the way, especially on screens with less real estate. What insane person would need full-time links to Pinterest, Facebook, Twitter, and Russian Facebook (why did they try to copy Facebook so obviously?) as they scroll down an AX item page?

Oh, and I would /accept/ a compromise where the “X” button on AliExpress’es side sticky actually closed the entire sticky and this choice was saved as part of the site cookie and restored on all future pages. While I’m dreaming, I’d also like a pony and a billion dollars.

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Okay, uBlock Origin does have a feature to permanently filter specific elements from a site, but I may not be able to explain how to use it.

Using the AliExpress "side" sticky as an example, you click on the eye dropper (element picker) tool in the uBO panel, hover the mouse over the sticky until the entire sticky area is highlighted, and finally press "Create".

Or you can go into the uBlock Origin Dashboard (settings) panel, go to the My Filter tab, and enter the following into the test area:

! 11/10/2019 https://www.aliexpress.com
www.aliexpress.com##.product-fix-wrap

Then press the "Apply changes" button.


Unfortunately, this process must be done for every element on every site that you wish to block and mobile devices are simply out of luck and must tolerate whatever nonsense the web developers foist upon them.

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leftdisconnected wrote:

Unfortunately, this process must be done for every element on every site that you wish to block and mobile devices are simply out of luck and must tolerate whatever nonsense the web developers foist upon them.

While not entirely true, true it is that mobile (Android) application development is in many aspects just plain retarded. I myself am still using certain version of the Chrome browser, and I have tried many others but they're not yet there because this, that or the other.

XDA Developers is a good place to inquire or raise a question concerning the development of some new interesting Android software. Just saw the forum's front page, with all these new extra-tall or extra-wide smartphone dumbarsephone models. Terrible. Facepalm 

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