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Brands like Emisar restore my faith in Chinese products. He has made everything better without cutting any corners. And for a very reasonable price considering all the improvements. I will buy one for sure, although probably closer to xmas.
He made this better by literally cutting corners. Silly
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Will the added lanyard hole be less sharp-edged than the one on the D4S? This is the only thing I don’t like on that light….

Yes.

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So can I now set a fixed level for one click on? Say always at the top regulated level.

Yes. Go to the level you want, then click 5 times to enable manual memory and save the current level.

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Thanks for the review TK!

Came across a white wall comparison between the 10621, 10622 & 10623 quad optics over on reddit which I found pretty useful (only the wide 10624 is missing).

Does anybody know of any outdoor beamshot comparison between these quad optics? I am mainly interested in 10621 vs. 10622.

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TK, Thank you for the review and for your invaluable contribution to this community!

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ToyKeeper wrote:
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So can I now set a fixed level for one click on? Say always at the top regulated level.

Yes. Go to the level you want, then click 5 times to enable manual memory and save the current level.

Perfect, best and essential option in my opinion.

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What’s the light output graph look like if the light were to start at 1000 lumens?

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Hello TK, thanks for another detailed review. If possible, could you please verify if the new stainless bezel fits on the green D4 first version? I have a green one from the first run that has damage on the bezel. Thanks

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Geuzzz wrote:
So can I now set a fixed level for one click on? Say always at the top regulated level.

Yes. Go to the level you want, then click 5 times to enable manual memory and save the current level.

Somehow I missed this feature. Will it be in all Anduril target builds going forward?

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Nice work again TK and Emisar. One question, one of the aux led settings will indicate battery voltage at a glance?

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Thanks for the review, it has all the information that one could wish Smile Thumbs Up Those are all nice upgrades, yet the ultimate problem of the D4 was not solved: D4V2 having the same switch as the D4 makes this ultimate pocket EDC light again unsuitable to pocket EDC Sad Flat Stare Tired . It +will+ switch on in your pocket, you are +obliged+ to lock it out which, however nice the user interface is, makes the handling medieval compared to my ancient EDC-tailclicky. If I need light, without looking or fiddling I have light in 1 second, when I'm done its back in my pocket in 1 second. That is how I have used my EDC for 8 years now (many times a day) and I see no reason to give that up for all the bells and whistles in the world. Waiting for D4V3 Flat Stare Edit: maybe I'm particularly grumpy about how I want my EDC to be, see the above as a personal disappointment.

I'm actually right there with you. I even have this issue to some extent with the FW3A. During the day I've mostly been carrying my D25C this past month. I can quick-tap the tail switch without looking and always know exactly how much light I'm getting. My second-most carried is my SC62, which has never turned on in my pocket either, and I can also shortcut to any mode quickly and blind. 

This... also kind of looks like a pain in the butt to mod. If I wanted to swap the LEDs, I'd have to disconnect that crazy aux board to get to it. But at the same time, the aux board and stainless bezel are like 90% of the reason I'd want one at this point. I wonder if the driver + aux board + stainless bezel can swap into an older D4 host, because I'm not thrilled with the color options offered either. 

I too will await future revisions. I'm pretty close to modding the metal ring around the switch on my old D4 to prevent pocket-burn, and then it would be nearly perfect.

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I have these on order so not quite sure of the fit . May need some customizing but they should stop pocket activation.
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ToyKeeper wrote:
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I used to recommend this light among urban explorers as the best addition to a headlamp, but I don’t know whether I’ll still can do that.

Why is that?

Ramping IOS V2 was very simple and could be “mastered” by everyone. Anduril is complicated, too complicated for non-flashoholic people and those who uh… how to put it… lack the mental capabilities. It’s certainly not an inclusive UI. Although of course it’s heaven for flashlight enthusiasts.

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I’m not sure what “true memory” means though. Is it one of the two methods described here?

No. Although I will certainly use manual MM. What I meant is that Anduril doen’t remember the mode accessed by using a shortcut, either hold for moonlight or double click for turbo. In theory it has sense but practical it looks like this:

I use the flashlight to lighten a big turbine hall in an abandoned power plant. It happens i do this by ramping up to turbo. Next a want to go to another building but to do that I have to go trough a corridor which has windows on the opposite of a shed of the security guards so i have to be discreet. I turn the light off from turno, open the door leading to that corridor and hold to switch to activate moonlight in order to not to be seen but also not to fall in hole or something. I walk through the corridor and see through the window that a guard has left the shed to smoke. I turn the light of to make sure I’m not seen. The guard goes back to the shed, an I can continue my journey.

Then I make one click on the flashlight because I know the light has MM. But it activates not the firefly mode as my brain assumed but the turbo mode because it doesn’t memorize levels reached by using a shortcut. 4000 lumens blast through the corridor, the guards obviously see it and start chasing me through the building. End of story.

My brain doesn’t remember whether the last mode I used was accessed by using a shortcut (remembered by the flashlight) or by ramping (not remembered), a certainly not in situations I use the light instead of just toying with it. This leads to unpleasant situations I think I get firefly (I use that mode a lot) but instead I get a high mode.

The point I’m trying to make: it would be better the driver would use mode memory for levels acceded both by ramping and by using shortcuts for the sake of reliability and predictability.

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In an urbex situation like that, I’d be inclined to set my D4’s manual memory to the lowest level, so it always comes on in moonlight with no surprises. That way, it makes it very hard to accidentally screw up and blast out more light than intended.

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pennzy wrote:
Nice work again TK and Emisar. One question, one of the aux led settings will indicate battery voltage at a glance?

Yes. As per her review above:

Blue: full battery
Green: medium battery
Red: low battery
Off: critical battery

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@Ryzbor

The problem for you could also be the opposite though,

I used the shortcut for high/turbo, then off, then on again expecting the low mode I was using before turbo.

My point is that if you have a flashlight that can produce both moonlight and turbo there is ALWAYS a chance you will not get what you want. (or be disappointed by the sequence)

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Ryzbor wrote:

I use the flashlight to lighten a big turbine hall in an abandoned power plant. It happens i do this by ramping up to turbo. Next a want to go to another building but to do that I have to go trough a corridor which has windows on the opposite of a shed of the security guards so i have to be discreet. I turn the light off from turno, open the door leading to that corridor and hold to switch to activate moonlight in order to not to be seen but also not to fall in hole or something. I walk through the corridor and see through the window that a guard has left the shed to smoke. I turn the light of to make sure I’m not seen. The guard goes back to the shed, an I can continue my journey.

Then I make one click on the flashlight because I know the light has MM. But it activates not the firefly mode as my brain assumed but the turbo mode because it doesn’t memorize levels reached by using a shortcut. 4000 lumens blast through the corridor, the guards obviously see it and start chasing me through the building. End of story.

My brain doesn’t remember whether the last mode I used was accessed by using a shortcut (remembered by the flashlight) or by ramping (not remembered), a certainly not in situations I use the light instead of just toying with it. This leads to unpleasant situations I think I get firefly (I use that mode a lot) but instead I get a high mode.

My D18 and D4S, with two different software versions (RampOsV2 vs Anduril), DO remember the last level used, even if it was from a “shortcut.” You may need to set your ramp floor to moonlight and your ramp ceiling to turbo to get this functionality though, I believe. But, this is how I configure all my newer Emisars anyway, so it works great.

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Great review, thank you TK!

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TK, have you ever tried the firmware flashing pads yourself? I remembered that similar lights like Fireflies E07 cannot be flashed via the pads, unless you de-solder the aux light board. So can we flash the D4V2 successfully without de-soldering anything?

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Johm wrote:
@Ryzbor I used the shortcut for high/turbo, then off, then on again expecting the low mode I was using before turbo.

Remembering the mode one used before the last used mode is a bit problematic, especially on the longer term.

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My point is that if you have a flashlight that can produce both moonlight and turbo there is ALWAYS a chance you will not get what you want. (or be disappointed by the sequence)

That’s why I prefer no MM, you always know what you get and with the newer UI a can achieve that.

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TQ TK 4UR review! A bit (a lot) more comprehensive than Hank’s?

A quick question.

Is the pocket rocket still prone to self-activation, becoming
A pocket torch, burning bright in your pants?

If not, can a deactivate mode be programmed in, like two long presses (instead
Of 6 short ones) to have it go on/off in sleep mode.

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shinysideup wrote:
pennzy wrote:
Nice work again TK and Emisar. One question, one of the aux led settings will indicate battery voltage at a glance?

Yes. As per her review above:

Blue: full battery
Green: medium battery
Red: low battery
Off: critical battery

Wonder why the Aux voltage is not
Green: Full
Yellow: medium
Red: low
Off: critical

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Below is one of the reasons I finally ordered my first Emisar. Don't like my lights to get hot at all (I don't mind sacrificing output). The Muggle mode is great too.

Things that caught my attention:

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Much smoother thermal regulation
Temperature limit.  This sets the maximum temperature the light 
       can reach before it will start doing thermal regulation to keep 
       itself from overheating.  Click once per degree C above 30.  For 
       example, to set the limit to 50 C, click 20 times.  The default 
       is 45 C.

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Very very nice review my friend:) but I don't see the new clip you mentioned??

Hank included a picture of the D4V2 with a clip on his page. As TK said, it's the same clip that is offered with the D4V1. !{width:80%}https://intl-outdoor.com/images/IMG_2585_01_thumb_13.jpg!:https://intl-o...

 

 

 it's very ugly clip and am straggling to remove it from the flashlight! It's very hard to remove and really pocket shredder!! I hate everything about it

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Is there a way to shut off the Aux LEDs all together?

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Is there a way to shut off the Aux LEDs all together?

I believe she said one of the brightness setting options for them is “off”.
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What’s the method to set up the new memory mode? Just more options in the “ramp config” menu?

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Klayking wrote:
In an urbex situation like that, I'd be inclined to set my D4's manual memory to the lowest level, so it always comes on in moonlight with no surprises. That way, it makes it very hard to accidentally screw up and blast out more light than intended.

Johm wrote:
@Ryzbor The problem for you could also be the opposite though, I used the shortcut for high/turbo, then off, then on again expecting the low mode I was using before turbo. My point is that if you have a flashlight that can produce both moonlight and turbo there is ALWAYS a chance you will not get what you want. (or be disappointed by the sequence)

Both problems are solved by having no memory, and always using the shortcut. That is my preferred way to use an e-switch light.

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What’s the method to set up the new memory mode? Just more options in the “ramp config” menu?

5 clicks while on sets memory.
4 + click/hold while on turns manual memory off.

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BurningPlayd0h wrote:
What’s the method to set up the new memory mode? Just more options in the “ramp config” menu?

5 clicks while on sets memory.
4 + click/hold while on turns manual memory off.

The 5-click sets it to the level you’re currently at I’m assuming? That sounds both simple and fast, I dig it.

I think the only change I would suggest to Anduril is setting the click, click+hold lockout mode to be the same output as this memory mode if it is on.

Edit: And I missed the answer to my question on this page before I asked it, oops Facepalm

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Ordered the v.2 in sand and 4000K SSTs, 18350 clip, magnet, spare non-magnetic cap and the SS bezel for $60 shipped, from Hank, so this will be my fourth: D1, D1S and D4.

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