Need help picking a flashlight and headlight. Need lots of help please (im a Newb)

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Need help picking a flashlight and headlight. Need lots of help please (im a Newb)

Let me first say that I am new to actually researching and buying a flashlight or headlight (usually just use what is around the house or what someone has given me).

Ive tried to do some research on this forum and another big forum (even more confusing). Coming from not really knowing anything, to reading this and the other forum, I think im more confused then when I started. The forums are great, but when I read a thread its so far advanced over my head im lost.

I am looking for a couple of options for a decent flashlight and headlight. Probably mostly for a bug out bag, so size should be appropriate for bug out bag. Id like to spend less then $25 each if possible.

Regarding battery, again the more I try to read, the more im confused. It seems most take either AA, AAA, 18650, cr123…

Some seem like you plug in to re charge, some take out the battery to recharge, so just put new batteries in…I don’t know

I do not know the pros and cons of the different batteries when it comes to the batteries and flashlight behavior and I know nothing about 18650 and cr123

I would love it if some of you can give me some general AND specific recommendations . if you want to even provide a link it would be awesome.

Some that I have come across, but they may suck, I have no idea. with all the fake amazon reviews, I cant rely on that.

Flashlight:

Thorfire VG10 and VG15 (fakespot says amazon review are not reliable)

Anker bolder LC30 and LC90

Nitecore (more expensive??)

Dorcy- I cant find many reviews, but price seems decent

Something else??

Headlight:

Petzl (have not looked up price yet, but have seen it recommended)

Ozark trail 250 (I know, Walmart sucks)

Ozark trail 300

nitecore?

Dorcy Pro series 200 (with or without a tripod seem like a cool feature)-cant find many reviews, but price seems decent

Dorcy- other series seem like a good price too

I realize that there are a million options. I also realize that for a lot of flashlight enthusiasts that $25 may get me nothing but junk, but please me out with some decent options for the best price….it is called budgetflashlight forum Smile

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Hello Kboater. Welcome to BLF.

For the flashlights you recommended:
Thorfire VG10 and VG15. Just don’t pay attention to FakeSpot, as Fakespot knows nothing about flashlight compared to us. They are good lights.

The Anker LC30 and LC90 aren’t good all-around flashlights, so wouldn’t recommend them.
Others too.

If you want something good an Amazon, I’d recommend the Sofirn SP32A:
https://www.amazon.com/Flashlight-Rechargeable-Battery-Charger-Indicator...

For a headlamp:
https://www.amazon.com/Headlamp-Headlight-Rechargeable-Waterproof-Headla...

Great flashlight with good brightness, battery life, and a good user interface. A great deal for under 30$US, and a good starting point since it includes a good high capacity 18650 with a decent starting charger.
As a headlamp, the WowTac A2S is a great choice overall.

Includes a USB rechargeable battery.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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BlueSwordM wrote:
Hello Kboater. Welcome to BLF.

For the flashlights you recommended:
Thorfire VG10 and VG15. Just don’t pay attention to FakeSpot, as Fakespot knows nothing about flashlight compared to us. They are good lights.

The Anker LC30 and LC90 aren’t good all-around flashlights, so wouldn’t recommend them.
Others too.

If you want something good an Amazon, I’d recommend the Sofirn SP32A:
https://www.amazon.com/Flashlight-Rechargeable-Battery-Charger-Indicator...

For a headlamp:
https://www.amazon.com/Headlamp-Headlight-Rechargeable-Waterproof-Headla...

Great flashlight with good brightness, battery life, and a good user interface. A great deal for under 30$US, and a good starting point since it includes a good high capacity 18650 with a decent starting charger.
As a headlamp, the WowTac A2S is a great choice overall.

Includes a USB rechargeable battery.

Thank you so much. would you recommend the Sofirn over the Thorfire (not sure between the different model 10 vs 15)?

I will look into the headlight that you recommend too! regarding the headlight, have you heard of the Dorcy ones? are they crap; cause I cant find really any reviews

seriously, thank you

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forgot to ask/mention, do I want one that focuses? for a wider less focused beam and then I can focus to a smaller more powerful beam?

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The Sofirn is the manufacturer that makes Thorfire lights, but I’d still choose the Sofirn over the VG10 and VG15 anyway.

And yes, most Dorcy lights aren’t very good at all. Their brightness isn’t stable, and do not use good battery combinations. Most of their lights also start on high, which isn’t good at all too.

No problem.

If you have questions, just ask.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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And no, you don’t want one that focuses, since when you focus, you lose A LOT of brightness, and between max and min zoom, the beam is really not good.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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BlueSwordM wrote:
The Sofirn is the manufacturer that makes Thorfire lights, but I’d still choose the Sofirn over the VG10 and VG15 anyway.

And yes, most Dorcy lights aren’t very good at all. Their brightness isn’t stable, and do not use good battery combinations. Most of their lights also start on high, which isn’t good at all too.

No problem.

If you have questions, just ask.

Thanks again. you have given me a few specific ones to actually feel confident putting some time into reading about. Can you enlighten me on the difference between the VG10 and the VG15?

Also, if buying extra spare 18650 batteries, will any brand be fine or are there some that are going to leak, fail quick that I should stay away from or only a few brands I should look at?

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The main difference between the VG15 and VG10 is the body, and the UI.

Build quality is superior on the VG15, and the VG15 has a much better user interface(firefly, low, medium, high, turbo) vs the VG10 high-medium-low.

The VG15S is an older version, with a tailswitch, of the Sofirn SP32A V2.0 basically.

For 18650s, you want to buy them from trusty sources, NOT AMAZON at all. Due to how Amazon works, you can easily get fake cells from legit sources, and they can’t test the batteries to see if they are good or not.

Other online stores always get from legit sources, and test their stock, like:

https://www.illumn.com/

https://liionwholesale.com/

https://www.18650batterystore.com/Default.asp

https://www.imrbatteries.com/

If I were you, I’d get these batteries:
https://www.illumn.com/18650-samsung-3000mah-inr18650-30q-high-discharge...

And this charger. Slightly overkill, but will charge any rechargeable battery, and you won’t have to buy any chargers after this for a looong time.
https://www.illumn.com/folomov-a4-intelligent-rapid-charger-li-ion-lifep...

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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Convoy C8+ ot Sofurn C8T.I’d be looking at.for a torch.
VERY good beam. With spread for not tripping over in the dark.
18650 cells.

Another.
Astrolux S41 they cheap nowadays. 4 x LED one 18650. has 7 levels. top 2 will burn out battery and get hot pretty quick.
I have 2 and work them with plenty of light output on 4 or 5 of the 7 levels.

Buy a $5, In pocket/bag LiitoKala Lii202 charger at same time. Does 99% of battery’s incl Li-Po.

Headlight. Ask others.
I bought a no name 2 × 18650 rear cell unit yrs ago. Still works,
does ALL I’ll ever want. Have NO idea where I got it from.

Small torches with high output are working on limits. Temperatures.
Battery usability.
Go for something little larger. Working on less max outputs. For longer.
More a cruiser.

and put a little Astrolux AO1, x 2 or 3 in pocket for family members.
Size of adult little finger or less.
Avail for under $8 us. at present on coupons here.
Great close up walkabout find things in bag etc torch. Runs on AAA
or Li-Po
I have a coupla more in mail at present.along with a Mad Max group buy.
Xanes XT03. for around $10US.

Should be a good local walkabout light. fits in a coupla fingers.
Stainless Steel body.

Old school Still avail, for around $17ish AUD.
Sky Ray S R5. Have 2 x. one is over 8 yrs old. still turning on and off.

Better shape, grip, to hold.
Than that S2 water pipe slip out of fingers one.
A VERY nice looking torch in my eyes. and reliable plus.

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Now im really confused (in a good way).
Both of you have recommended the Sofirn, but different models. what is the difference between the Sp32A and the C8T?

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Completely different lights.

The SP32A is a general purpose light.

The C8T is a very throwy light. Not very useful in most cases compared to the SP32A.

It’s also much bigger with a large head.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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Macka17 wrote:
Convoy C8+ ot Sofurn C8T.I’d be looking at.for a torch.
VERY good beam. With spread for not tripping over in the dark.
18650 cells.

Another.
Astrolux S41 they cheap nowadays. 4 x LED one 18650. has 7 levels. top 2 will burn out battery and get hot pretty quick.
I have 2 and work them with plenty of light output on 4 or 5 of the 7 levels.

Buy a $5, In pocket/bag LiitoKala Lii202 charger at same time. Does 99% of battery’s incl Li-Po.

Headlight. Ask others.
I bought a no name 2 × 18650 rear cell unit yrs ago. Still works,
does ALL I’ll ever want. Have NO idea where I got it from.

Small torches with high output are working on limits. Temperatures.
Battery usability.
Go for something little larger. Working on less max outputs. For longer.
More a cruiser.

and put a little Astrolux AO1, x 2 or 3 in pocket for family members.
Size of adult little finger or less.
Avail for under $8 us. at present on coupons here.
Great close up walkabout find things in bag etc torch. Runs on AAA
or Li-Po
I have a coupla more in mail at present.along with a Mad Max group buy.
Xanes XT03. for around $10US.

Should be a good local walkabout light. fits in a coupla fingers.
Stainless Steel body.

Old school Still avail, for around $17ish AUD.
Sky Ray S R5. Have 2 x. one is over 8 yrs old. still turning on and off.

Better shape, grip, to hold.
Than that S2 water pipe slip out of fingers one.
A VERY nice looking torch in my eyes. and reliable plus.

Thanks!
are the Convoy T8 and the Astrolux s41 just found on the Chinese sites? (nothing wrong with that, just wanted to purchase from US seller or Amazon if possible)

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Right click each one with mouse. then click the Google search that comes up.
Peruse them, reviews etc.
Sofurn. Convoy. Astrolux..Nowadays ARE as reliable and often BETTER built than some of the Named ones.
Basically the SP32 a tube smaller torch with higher price.

The C8/C8+ are classic. reliable, lower priced torches that work and have done for a looong time.
I have 5 (or 6?) and others on here have waaaaay more than that.
It. and it’s derivatives. Are probably THE most popular. Most reliable torch on this/these forums.

A lot of people seem to go for the Smaller, lighter, is better.
Me. I like bigger. stronger. MORE reliable, usually. Not working on limits.
The extra coupla ounces these things weigh is ridiculous
when you add to weight of bag.

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Bluesword.

He is asking for a Headlight and torch.
To ME. That means a headlight for walkabout. plenty of spread.
with a combination hand torch too.
IE the C8+ gives a lovely Looong throw.
With spread that’s wide enuff to be usable. you can still walk without tripping over things.

The C8T was just another one to compare.

I use. Walkabout.
My XM-L dual battery headlight. with either a Imalent DN35/70.
One of my Astrolux S41’s. or the Convoy C8+/T.
OR, sometimes. the L2/L6 versions.

There are a zillion lights out there. We all different.
And mainly all happy with each others choices.

Some like tiny lightweight packs. others like larger with more in them packs.
Same goes for Torches. Knives and guns.

The Chinese market. Through the coupla 3 decent dealers
Take 30 days on av, to Aust.
but so far I’ve all but once got what I ordered.
and 99% working. good quality.
US. Aust Markets sell same items at much higher prices.
Or local made at ridiculous rates.

The Chinese (Known good ones) ARE as good and better, than some others on the market.

Just check lots of reviews. Buy from reputable (Proven) dealers.
and you get the good stuff at fair prices.
I’ve always bought my battery’s from Bangood. Restricts what I can get to Aust.
BUT so far. no imitations.
and Simon has ALWAYS done me right too.
I’ve had over 70 torches. Only 2 faulty but replaced by return. 1 sw. 1 LED.
and ONE shonky dealer. Paypal sorted my return of cash from him.

He’ll find what he wants.
I’m just sticking a coupla more alternatives in there for him.

PS.
AMAZON is good for movies.

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BlueSwordM wrote:
Hello Kboater. Welcome to BLF.

For the flashlights you recommended:
Thorfire VG10 and VG15. Just don’t pay attention to FakeSpot, as Fakespot knows nothing about flashlight compared to us. They are good lights.

The Anker LC30 and LC90 aren’t good all-around flashlights, so wouldn’t recommend them.
Others too.

If you want something good an Amazon, I’d recommend the Sofirn SP32A:
https://www.amazon.com/Flashlight-Rechargeable-Battery-Charger-Indicator...

For a headlamp:
https://www.amazon.com/Headlamp-Headlight-Rechargeable-Waterproof-Headla...

Great flashlight with good brightness, battery life, and a good user interface. A great deal for under 30$US, and a good starting point since it includes a good high capacity 18650 with a decent starting charger.
As a headlamp, the WowTac A2S is a great choice overall.

Includes a USB rechargeable battery.

Sorry for all the questions! I don’t mean to sound redundant.
You linked to the 32A, but there is also a 31A which, with the description, I cant seem much of a difference…?
Then there is the 33 which is about $10 more, but has about 2x the advertised lumens and takes a different battery 26650 again, I don’t know anything about this battery or how to compare it to the 18650 (which ive at least heard of). Its only a little bit bigger and 2x as powerful for only $10 more….thoughts?

edit to add I just read that the 33 can actually take the 18650 battery with an included adaptor tube (not that I know the difference between the 2 different batteries ). reading some reviews it seems like its about 50% wider and quite a bit heavier then the 32

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Thanks so much everyone for you help. I think I’ll pick up a couple of lights based on all of your recommendations!

Can I have some more input regarding some headlamps?

Again, thanks

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First question before anything else…

Whaddya gonna do with it?

Like buying a car, gonna race it?, tow/carry crap in it?, ferry a gaggle of kids back’n‘forth, commute to/from work, what?

Then, narrow down the choices.

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Lightbringer wrote:
First question before anything else…

Whaddya gonna do with it?

Like buying a car, gonna race it?, tow/carry crap in it?, ferry a gaggle of kids back’n‘forth, commute to/from work, what?

Then, narrow down the choices.

Probably just put in a bug out bag. Maybe take it out and use it for camping and then put it back in the Bob when done

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Macka17 wrote:
Bluesword.

He is asking for a Headlight and torch.
To ME. That means a headlight for walkabout. plenty of spread.
with a combination hand torch too.
IE the C8+ gives a lovely Looong throw.
With spread that’s wide enuff to be usable. you can still walk without tripping over things.

The C8T was just another one to compare.

I use. Walkabout.
My XM-L dual battery headlight. with either a Imalent DN35/70.
One of my Astrolux S41’s. or the Convoy C8+/T.
OR, sometimes. the L2/L6 versions.

There are a zillion lights out there. We all different.
And mainly all happy with each others choices.

Some like tiny lightweight packs. others like larger with more in them packs.
Same goes for Torches. Knives and guns.

The Chinese market. Through the coupla 3 decent dealers
Take 30 days on av, to Aust.
but so far I’ve all but once got what I ordered.
and 99% working. good quality.
US. Aust Markets sell same items at much higher prices.
Or local made at ridiculous rates.

The Chinese (Known good ones) ARE as good and better, than some others on the market.

Just check lots of reviews. Buy from reputable (Proven) dealers.
and you get the good stuff at fair prices.
I’ve always bought my battery’s from Bangood. Restricts what I can get to Aust.
BUT so far. no imitations.
and Simon has ALWAYS done me right too.
I’ve had over 70 torches. Only 2 faulty but replaced by return. 1 sw. 1 LED.
and ONE shonky dealer. Paypal sorted my return of cash from him.

He’ll find what he wants.
I’m just sticking a coupla more alternatives in there for him.

PS.
AMAZON is good for movies.

Can you link to the batteries on banggood that you have had good luck with?

Who or what is Simon?
Thanks

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A good headlight is the Skilhunt H03, (note there are multiple versions, just get the H03 with the TIR) i have around 30 lights, but only one headlight, and i have to admit, this one is used the most

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Kboater wrote:
Probably just put in a bug out bag. Maybe take it out and use it for camping and then put it back in the Bob when done

So just kind of a do-nothing general-purpose light?

Might as well get one that works off ’123 primaries, then.

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Kboater wrote:

Who or what is Simon?
Thanks

Simon makes the brand Convoy. He is highly regarded around here as are his flashlights.

If you will leave the flashlight in a bag for long periods of time, you may be better off using lithium primary cells (non-rechargeable batteries with a long standby time). Liion batteries (like 18650 and other sizes) don’t like to be charged up and left to sit (or even worse, run down for a long time, then recharged), whereas with a lithium primary, you can usually count on it being a reliable standby.

Others here will have more educated opinions on “how long is too long?” type questions. If the light is going to be used more frequently, a lithium ion rechargeable is easily a great choice.

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Kboater wrote:

Who or what is Simon?
Thanks

Simon makes the brand Convoy. He is highly regarded around here as are his flashlights.

If you will leave the flashlight in a bag for long periods of time, you may be better off using lithium primary cells (non-rechargeable batteries with a long standby time). Liion batteries (like 18650 and other sizes) don’t like to be charged up and left to sit (or even worse, run down for a long time, then recharged), whereas with a lithium primary, you can usually count on it being a reliable standby.

Others here will have more educated opinions on “how long is too long?” type questions. If the light is going to be used more frequently, a lithium ion rechargeable is easily a great choice.

Excuse my ignorance, but when you say primary lithium cells, can you explain what type of battery you are referring to? (It just link to an example or two)?
Thanks

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1,5V Primary lithium cells in the AA/AAA form factor.

Energizer L91 Lithium, Energizer Ultimate Lithium.

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Kboater wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but when you say primary lithium cells, can you explain what type of battery you are referring to? (It just link to an example or two)?

Eg, a CR123A would be a good choice in a 16340 form-factor. Energizer Lithiums are another in 14500/AA.

Btw, 16340 and similar numbers mean 16mm in diameter, and 34mm long.

‘123s last pretty much forever, and most cop-shops use them in lights where they supply the batteries. FD, also.

Most importantly, THEY DON’T LEAK. If you get AA lights and leave alkaleaks in ‘em, guaranteed when you need it most and try to use it, you’ll find only a salt-block wedged inside the light, and no power.

So… if you’re gonna use a light in a BOB, keep batteries that won’t take a dump in whatever you’ve got them in.

And lights that have any parasitic drain will run down even big Li-ion cells over time.

Now…

A SP32Av2, a MH20/MH20GT, any light that can take one 18650 or a pair of ’123s, would be the best choice. Use the former when you’re actually using the light, or the latter if you’re just keeping it for just-in-case.

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KBoater.

As explained above. Simon. Convoy…. 100+% person. dealings.

Any torches I take anywhere. and keep in container/bag, long term.
I just carry torch Empty. and battery’s in their sealed pack
They mostly on a 10 yr storage cycle.
and how long does it take to put battery in torch.

I and everybody I know. (Just about).
carry one of those little flat/round/ press side to activate lights
Size of 2 × 10c coins on top of each other.
On ALL my keyrings. Boat, house. whatever.
with another half a Dozen (whoops. 4 now) in comp desk drawer.
Bloody granddaughters.

They about $5 for a pack of 10 from on here.

Battery’s I’ve got and been happy with on here.

Panasonic 18650B’s. Samsung 18650 30Q.
Soshine Black 26650. (4400. 4500.5500)
Soshine ICR 14500 9-00 mAh
Soshine AAA/10440 LI-PO cells.
These came in a 4 pack. 2 x cells. 2 x Connectors (Dummy cells).
to take up the space of second battery
as they 3.2v over the 1.5v AAA’s.
IE Cook.. Small power torches.

And 2 x BASSEN 26650’s 60a Max pulse current.

Basically ALL from Gearbest or Bangood.
Couple from ?? (can’t remember).
Basically. look around these coupon buys.
They usually have Battery’s. Chargers, and torches.Knives.

They only last a week or so. some less.
So you have to be quick.

Locally. Fine. for supply…
But cost usually 2 to 3 times the cost of these.
Like my 123. $17.50 for 1. and 18350’s the same. ($15 ea from memory)

There are other Aussie’s here too.
They will have other contacts for their battery’s.

ANYBODY?????……….

I’m alright for general questions on what I have/have done.
But brain damage. NO memory. (motorbike accident back in ’90).
I can’t remember finer points. like who, where. and when.
Gets very frustrating. but better than the alternative believe me.

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For bugout, I like the new usb rechargeable lights w/solar panel combo. I do keep some 123’s just cuz they’ll last without leaking and aren’t too big an investment. I’d highly recommend jumpin on the BLF lantern group buy, it’s going to be the best emergency all purpose light. I also like getting the short and long tube convoys for easier pocket carry or swapping to longer run time. The astrolux s41 also has lego factor.

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Relampago wrote:
For bugout, I like the new usb rechargeable lights w/solar panel combo. I do keep some 123’s just cuz they’ll last without leaking and aren’t too big an investment. I’d highly recommend jumpin on the BLF lantern group buy, it’s going to be the best emergency all purpose light. I also like getting the short and long tube convoys for easier pocket carry or swapping to longer run time. The astrolux s41 also has lego factor.

Thanks. What is this blf buy you are referencing?

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Excuse my ignorance, but when you say primary lithium cells, can you explain what type of battery you are referring to? (It just link to an example or two)?

Eg, a CR123A would be a good choice in a 16340 form-factor. Energizer Lithiums are another in 14500/AA.

Btw, 16340 and similar numbers mean 16mm in diameter, and 34mm long.

‘123s last pretty much forever, and most cop-shops use them in lights where they supply the batteries. FD, also.

Most importantly, THEY DON’T LEAK. If you get AA lights and leave alkaleaks in ‘em, guaranteed when you need it most and try to use it, you’ll find only a salt-block wedged inside the light, and no power.

So… if you’re gonna use a light in a BOB, keep batteries that won’t take a dump in whatever you’ve got them in.

And lights that have any parasitic drain will run down even big Li-ion cells over time.

Now…

A SP32Av2, a MH20/MH20GT, any light that can take one 18650 or a pair of ’123s, would be the best choice. Use the former when you’re actually using the light, or the latter if you’re just keeping it for just-in-case.


I think this recommendation fits the bill.

I haven’t tried either of these lights that Lightbringer is suggesting, but I’ve seen them suggested elsewhere. The ability to keep a pair of CR123s handy for long term storage and an 18650 for more frequent usage makes them a winner for your use case.

I’m not sure what I’d recommend on the headlamp front where CR123s are concerned. A high quality budget headlamp (as suggested above) is the Wowtac A2S. I have personally used the Wowtac A2 (main difference if I recall is that it is $10 cheaper, comes with a lower capacity battery, and the tint of the light is not what most people prefer around here… still serviceable though). I bought the A2 over the A2S because I intended to mod it (put in a 95 CRI Samsung LH351 in 5000k and a new driver with Anduril), but it was perfectly usable as it came. I gave it to my brother after modding it. He uses it for work (pest control) and is very satisfied.

I imagine the upgrades on the A2S are worth the $10, and you wouldn’t need to purchase a charger if you used the battery it came with (the battery has integrated charging and plugs into a micro usb cable).

If you will use the light more frequently than “in case of emergency” (as I imagine most bug out bags are designed for), these are all good choices.. just remember:
non-rechargeable lithium primaries (i.e. single use) for long term storage and rechargeable lithium ion for regular use (e.g. 18650, 26650, 21700, 14500, etc).

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Kboater wrote:
Relampago wrote:
For bugout, I like the new usb rechargeable lights w/solar panel combo. I do keep some 123’s just cuz they’ll last without leaking and aren’t too big an investment. I’d highly recommend jumpin on the BLF lantern group buy, it’s going to be the best emergency all purpose light. I also like getting the short and long tube convoys for easier pocket carry or swapping to longer run time. The astrolux s41 also has lego factor.

Thanks. What is this blf buy you are referencing?


It is this thread:
BLF LT1 Lantern – http://budgetlightforum.com/node/44923

And…I wish you luck not getting much more confuse with the lots of suggestions given here Big Smile

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Kboater wrote:

Thanks. What is this blf buy you are referencing?

This:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/44923

Basically the best lantern ever designed/produced as far as I’m concerned.

They are almost ready to begin production, and if you join the group buy (post in that thread saying something like “I am interested in one” or “I want to buy 32”) you can get in on the initially lower price (projected around $50-60 at this point).

It uses 4 cells, so budget another $30-50 for those if you are planning to get one. It’ll come from China, and it could take a while to ship.. just be prepared to wait for good things like this. The lantern has all sorts of features, but check out the first post over there for the details to see if it is something you would even want.

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